TSA worker who left sex toy note will be fired

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    Oct 29, 2011 1:36 PM GMT
    Kinda of a funny story that was first covered a while back, the US TSA now apparently getting around to firing the agent who wrote an inappropriate remark on an official TSA inspection notice inside this woman's luggage. Stupid thing to do, but I think a suspension or demotion and retraining would have been sufficient. Even the lady victim wasn't that upset, and didn't want a firing over it.

    BTW, you guys ever get one of those in your check baggage? The official notice, not the additional remark, though that would be interesting to hear, too.

    I call them a TSA "love note" and I nearly always get one, I guess my luggage either looking suspicious or presenting questionable patterns on their x-ray machines. I just expect to see one sitting on top when I open my bag, with my carefully packed things now a jumble, and needing to do a quick inventory. icon_sad.gif

    http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/25/8481160-tsa-worker-who-left-sex-toy-note-will-be-fired?threadId=3254633&commentId=59432251#c59432251
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    Oct 29, 2011 1:39 PM GMT
    I get those inspection notices every once in a while. More recently, my bag was neatly repacked when I opened the suitcase.

    I have mixed feelings about TSA in general.

    At least it's a jobs program.
  • Midas426

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    Oct 29, 2011 1:40 PM GMT
    I got the notice once that TSA had checked my bags. I haven't really bought anything freaky on board other than condoms though. Funny story.
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
    Well, given the continuing terror threat I accept that luggage must be searched. I certainly feel safer at 36,000 feet knowing that at least SOMETHING was done to look for stuff that would bring us down in little pieces.

    And so it's not the doing it, but rather the manner that sometimes bothers me. Is it really effective, do these agents truly know what the Hell they're doing? And why do they have to be abusive, and often unprofessional with people, as has happened to me.

    Here's my scariest TSA story, right after the shoe bomber scare. And this airport also had US Army soldiers in full camouflage combat uniforms and carrying loaded M-16 rifles.

    At the checkpoint they sent our shoes through a special sniffer, everything else through the x-ray in one of those grey plastic tubs, us walking through a metal detector. As soon as I exited the detector I was grabbed and hustled away to an exam area, guards literally holding me off the ground, with loaded M-16s pointed at me, surrounded by soldiers and TSA agents!

    We get there and I'm told to strip, but nobody will tell me why, or even let me speak. I had gotten my shirt off when an agent appeared carrying my grey personals tub. "It's OK," he said, "He's got nitro tablets," holding up the little bottle. Everyone relaxed, though they still did a partial strip-search and flagged my luggage, but then I was released, and I made my flight.

    That morning before leaving my house I had put a new, unopened bottle of nitro glycerin tablets for my heart into my pants pocket, before putting on my shoes. Enough trace nitro got onto my fingers, and was passed to my shoes, to alert their bomb sniffer machine! Because the chemistry for medical nitro is very similar to explosive nitro.

    Incredible the machine was so sensitive! But also reassuring. And in case any terrorists think they can use medical nitro as a decoy for the real thing, they searched me and my luggage just to be sure. BTW, no one was really abusive on that occasion, just scary to me. The abuse was during other flights, when there was no need.
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
    Midas426 saidI got the notice once that TSA had checked my bags. I haven't really bought anything freaky on board other than condoms though. Funny story.


    I didn't know they sold condoms onboard... What airline do you fly! LOL.. Typo Win! icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:24 PM GMT
    Fired?
    Yeah, that's not extreme.icon_rolleyes.gif
    Hey, he should have beaten the living crap out of her and gotten a 3-day suspension.
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    Oct 29, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    Beaux saidFired?
    Yeah, that's not extreme.icon_rolleyes.gif
    Hey, he should have beaten the living crap out of her and gotten a 3-day suspension.

    Suspension and/or demotion, with retraining. A stupid mistake, not acceptable, but I believe in second chances. And apparently so did the victim, who said she didn't want the agent fired over it, just disciplined and the word put out not to leave personal notes in travelers' bags. Not the end of the world, just learn from it.

    Even in the US Army, which has very strict standards of discipline, it goes without saying, a soldier was supposed to be counseled first in writing, when he or she had fucked up. (Well, unless he'd done something like run a sword through his Officer, which actually happened to a friend of mine in Germany in the 1970s. He survived. The soldier may still be in Leavenworth)

    Continue to fuck-up and you get hammered. I even removed an Army Master Sergeant E-8 from service (some guys here will know how senior he was) at almost 18 years and shy of retirement lock-in, for repeatedly abusing his Army travel credit card with personal jewelry purchases for him and his wife. He had his formal written warnings from me, chances to pay-up and remain in service, and he ignored them, so that I kept getting nastygrams from Army Finance about him. Then I kicked him out (actually it took the authority of a General Officer and a Board, but I made it happen)

    Perhaps this TSA agent already had a poor performance record. We don't know all the facts. But on this act alone I would not have fired that person. Call me a softie. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
    Sicherheit macht Frei!

    Long live the Culture of Fear and Security Theatre... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidSicherheit macht Frei!

    Long live the Culture of Fear and Security Theatre... icon_rolleyes.gif


    +1
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    Oct 29, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
    Yeah, I've gotten those a few times. I had some minor damage to some equipment once because they didn't re-pack it properly.

    But still, the worst episode was when I cleverly packed an expedition-worth of gear into a single backpack using lots of compression bags and straps. A true marvel of packing. Then the Spanish military police waved me into the back room at the airport and demolished the entire thing. Squeezed out the toothpaste. Questioned me about every item. Nobody spoke a word of english, and my spanish was totally inadequate for detailed explanations. In the end, they confiscated my wet laundry (?) and my geological samples. I had to take a later flight.
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    Oct 29, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    The TSA is just a job creation program, I've never come across a TSA agent that looked even remotely intelligent or competent. Last time in Miami they had a huge pile of bags just laying around on the floor, outside of the barrier, and weren't in a rush at all to get them through the scanner. Needless to say when I got to LA my bags didn't. Very, very unprofessional.

    It just frees up some burger flipping spots so other people can fill them, and if you do it nationwide, with an overkill on staff at every airport, you might be able to push down the unemployment number by 0.1% or something.

    There is no way that they're actually interested in airport security against "the background of constant terrorist threat" (which is a fucking lie anyway) cause if they were they would have adopted the Israeli model (who DO have a real and constant threat) years ago.
  • Sk8Tex

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    Oct 29, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
    I am paranoid about taking ANYTHING with me on a plane after what happened a few years ago.. was in California moving back to Texas and I had packed some of my *ahem* unmentionables of the leather/metal variety in my luggage.
    Of course as soon as I got into the building with the dolly the guy says I'm up for a random inspection and proceeds to take me over to the counter, and out come the chaps, a leather harness and ..other stuff. Held them up in the air giving me a 'wtf look' for all the world to see and laid them out on the counter. I could not get out of there fast enough.

    A little piece of me died that day icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
    Sk8Tex saidI am paranoid about taking ANYTHING with me on a plane after what happened a few years ago.. was in California moving back to Texas and I had packed some of my *ahem* unmentionables of the leather/metal variety in my luggage.
    Of course as soon as I got into the building with the dolly the guy says I'm up for a random inspection and proceeds to take me over to the counter, and out come the chaps, a leather harness and ..other stuff. Held them up in the air giving me a 'wtf look' for all the world to see and laid them out on the counter. I could not get out of there fast enough.

    A little piece of me died that day icon_redface.gif


    Good grief man, just look him in the eye and smile.
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    Oct 29, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    I had my leather harness in my carry on when I went to NYC last week. I was dying to see if they did a bag check on me icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 5:57 PM GMT
    mindgarden said
    Sk8Tex saidI am paranoid about taking ANYTHING with me on a plane after what happened a few years ago.. was in California moving back to Texas and I had packed some of my *ahem* unmentionables of the leather/metal variety in my luggage.
    Of course as soon as I got into the building with the dolly the guy says I'm up for a random inspection and proceeds to take me over to the counter, and out come the chaps, a leather harness and ..other stuff. Held them up in the air giving me a 'wtf look' for all the world to see and laid them out on the counter. I could not get out of there fast enough.

    A little piece of me died that day icon_redface.gif


    Good grief man, just look him in the eye and smile.


    I would have if he totally didn't resemble Mr. Miyagi icon_confused.gif It was like being confronted by someones grandfather lol...
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    Bitch should have just read the note, then got her freak on like the note said. She said she laughed about it in her hotel room, but then raised such a stink about it. make up your f*cking mind. People are way too f*cking sensitive these stays. If you don't want your privacy invaded, then don't fly. Or at least, don't carry anything with you that you might be embarrassed about. At least now the world knows she's either a slutty whore or a woman who needs dick really badly.

    but she is kinda hot

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    Oct 29, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    Writing a sexy note: Get fired.

    Groping someone's balls: Just part of the job.
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    Sk8Tex saidI am paranoid about taking ANYTHING with me on a plane after what happened a few years ago.. was in California moving back to Texas and I had packed some of my *ahem* unmentionables of the leather/metal variety in my luggage.
    Of course as soon as I got into the building with the dolly the guy says I'm up for a random inspection and proceeds to take me over to the counter, and out come the chaps, a leather harness and ..other stuff. Held them up in the air giving me a 'wtf look' for all the world to see and laid them out on the counter. I could not get out of there fast enough.

    A little piece of me died that day icon_redface.gif


    Hell I just died a little out of empathy icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:13 PM GMT
    Well, gentlemen, let me tell you what I do. If I have a whole shit-load of stuff I want to have at my destination when I'm flying, I send it ahead by UPS. I notify the hotel, or my family/friends, to receive it. It's there before I am.

    I rarely travel with a lot a crap with me on an airplane. It's just a formula for trouble. We have lovely matching luggage, his & his, but we have never put it on a plane. They would only destroy it.

    That luggage is only for our car trips. It was purchased to fit exactly inside our car trunk. I have done the same thing for the last 30 years. I actually took my luggage to car dealerships in 1981 when I was looking at cars, to satisfy myself that my standard-size suitcases would fit in the trunk. And I've done the same ever since.

    And so it is that a gentleman has his custom luggage. And sends his things ahead, because otherwise there are these possible TSA hassles today. I ran into this a few times, and I learned my lesson. Never again...
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    Oct 29, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidWell, gentlemen, let me tell you what I do. If I have a whole shit-load of stuff I want to have at my destination when I'm flying, I send it ahead by UPS. I notify the hotel, or my family/friends, to receive it. It's there before I am.



    Yes, that is what I usually do, if I must take a mountain of impedimenta. However, I have still found TSA notes in the shipped crates, including the above-mentioned damaged equipment. (On international shipments.) Also, sometimes bags disappear into the black hole of customs inquiries. And once, a colleague had all of his gear held (and missed the entire project) because he'd listed his laptop battery on the manifest, and the whole shipment was impounded as "hazardous goods."

    I've been forced on occasion to take mountains of crap (up to two baggage carts full) as excess luggage. Prices seem quite volatile, but it often turns out to be cheaper (by thousands of dollars) to buy a full-fare ticket and pay a few hundred in excess baggage fees than to send the stuff by air freight or courier. And sometimes for a quick deployment on short notice, it's the only option.

    By preference, I'm quite happy to go for months at a time with a single bag. But as noted in the previous post, the security goons can even mess that up. Since that episode, I've sent any kind of sample home by courier or mail.
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    Oct 29, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    Sk8Tex saidI am paranoid about taking ANYTHING with me on a plane after what happened a few years ago.. was in California moving back to Texas and I had packed some of my *ahem* unmentionables of the leather/metal variety in my luggage.
    Of course as soon as I got into the building with the dolly the guy says I'm up for a random inspection and proceeds to take me over to the counter, and out come the chaps, a leather harness and ..other stuff. Held them up in the air giving me a 'wtf look' for all the world to see and laid them out on the counter. I could not get out of there fast enough.

    A little piece of me died that day icon_redface.gif


    I had a similar experience, though to a smaller degree lol. The TSA agent took a bottle of lube out and held it up, and conferred with his partner if it should be allowed.

    They looked at me and i felt it was time for a demonstration, so with my ex-boyfriend standing next to me I put two fingers up and make a fucking gesture with my other fingers wrapped around.. then said "see, friction.. bad" *gesture of lube going on* and by then they got it but I was totally prepared to make a moaning sound for the good people of the JFK airport in NYC icon_razz.gif

    We shouldn't be embarrassed by sex just because other people are. Plus, by the time I was done the TSA staff were in tears laughing icon_razz.gif

    Good thing that distracted them from the nuclear ordinance next to my socks ;)