God help you right wingers, true 'believers' who've drank the tea, and will not be waivered by facts, evidence, no matter the glaring truth staring you right in the face. Rather than discussion just sluff the facts off as spam. You embarass yourselves for being so incurious that in the face of all of the above, you'll have non of it. It is only as you wish it to be. The cheney way.
Usually such 'true believers' have religious beliefs that won't allow alternate information to confuse them.
so what are your excuses for buying into Cheneys rhetoric about the wars when there is so much evidence that all of it was based on trumped up evidence from a high volume of those from another country who had conflicts of interest, not primary US interests in mind. Where are your facts ?
The evidence that both parties were taken in by this group because of the money and influence against their doing otherwise, is abundant. Do you care ? What if 41 of 54 pushing cheney to war from within, were Russian? what if they were chinese ? or say French, or Cubans? Would you be quiet about such conflicts of interest taking us to war then ?
Next I'll hear that what I bring up is Anti Semitic, WOW !! what a setup these people have, disagreeing is out of the question, because when you do AIPAC tells us that's bad, Its Anti Semitic to disagree according to you far righter Tea and coolaid drinkers.
You true believing followers are exactly why we should fear allowing such people in the republican party anywhere near the whitehouse. Because when we do, we end up with people who don't want facts, people who are incurious and will only adhere to their religious or some NEO CON Ideology that will fit in with it. With such poeple we end up in such financial and economic troubled times as what we are going through right now and may very well be dealing with for another 5 to 10 years. We end up with loss of US influence around the world just as we are now, which will take many decades to put behind us.
But Carry on freedomisntfr, as you say, I am spaming by showing the facts. cover your eyes, your ears, and be sure not to let facts confuse you.