OWS message

  • vintovka

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    Oct 30, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    So, in spite of all the talk about how the OWS protesters have no message, it seems like this guy has a pretty clear idea of what he's looking for--it just won't fit into a 20 second sound-bite for CNN or FOX
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhShUgWZ0eg
    So let's get specific. Can we reinstate Glass-Steagall? The problem is that we don't even have a political party that is willing to begin the discussion (remember it was repealed under Clinton and the "conservatives" are clearly on board with it too).
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    Oct 30, 2011 2:25 AM GMT
    Nothing of value fits into a 30 second sound bite. Occasionally, you can point to something of value but a real explanation would require more than "9-9-9". And, yet, since most Americans are woefully undereducated, they want simplicity.
  • vintovka

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    Oct 30, 2011 7:18 AM GMT
    too true, but maybe the fact that people seem to want to understand should give us hope--I think it's pretty cool that the cop in the video actually wants to hear what the protester has to say
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    Oct 30, 2011 9:15 PM GMT
    Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and the ex Governor of New York, to name a few, have some great ideas about restoring something similar to Glass Steagall, the main thing is separating Banking from the risky (for lack of the right word) gambling practices along with requirements for bank assets on hand to back their loans and investments. The lack of which 'brought the house down'.

    The thing is our system has become so bought out by these interests that they control what Ideas come to the forefront, to a large degree the we are dependent on election cycles as to what gets done and when. If its close to election, no congressman, senator or the President who depends on the bank and Wall Street donations is going to take them on. If we're ever going to get fair outcomes for the masses as well as the banks, we'll have to get their money out of politics. Which means major political election funding changes. When the public can apply as much pressure and influence on our government as now comes from these moneyed interests, will we get fair outcomes.

    These problems are why its coming down to multiple protests accross the nation, because only moneyed interests were and are being heard. Obama has in reality only given lip service to real change that's needed. If the economy continues to get worse, we'll see far more protests and the government will then listen, if they don't and attempt to squelch the protests and the points behind the protests, the bigger the protests will get untill they do listen and act on the requests.

    I'm afraid that the public will have to force the issue, because as of now, the money is talking louder and I don't think we'll see the return of anything similar to glass steagall and fairness for main street untill that issue is forced. I well remember the 60's and early 70's and the only thing that brought the end to the damn war was protests forcing the issue. The more the government fought it, the bigger the protests and the more the pressure was applied on government to listen. I believe we are near that point again where the public is so fed up with not having a say, that massive protests are just around the corner. Watch what happens in the spring.
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    Oct 30, 2011 10:00 PM GMT
    realifedad said Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and the ex Governor of New York, to name a few, have some great ideas about restoring something similar to Glass Steagall, the main thing is separating Banking from the risky (for lack of the right word) gambling practices along with requirements for bank assets on hand to back their loans and investments. The lack of which 'brought the house down'.

    The thing is our system has become so bought out by these interests that they control what Ideas come to the forefront, to a large degree the we are dependent on election cycles as to what gets done and when. If its close to election, no congressman, senator or the President who depends on the bank and Wall Street donations is going to take them on. If we're ever going to get fair outcomes for the masses as well as the banks, we'll have to get their money out of politics. Which means major political election funding changes. When the public can apply as much pressure and influence on our government as now comes from these moneyed interests, will we get fair outcomes.

    These problems are why its coming down to multiple protests accross the nation, because only moneyed interests were and are being heard. Obama has in reality only given lip service to real change that's needed. If the economy continues to get worse, we'll see far more protests and the government will then listen, if they don't and attempt to squelch the protests and the points behind the protests, the bigger the protests will get untill they do listen and act on the requests.

    I'm afraid that the public will have to force the issue, because as of now, the money is talking louder and I don't think we'll see the return of anything similar to glass steagall and fairness for main street untill that issue is forced. I well remember the 60's and early 70's and the only thing that brought the end to the damn war was protests forcing the issue. The more the government fought it, the bigger the protests and the more the pressure was applied on government to listen. I believe we are near that point again where the public is so fed up with not having a say, that massive protests are just around the corner. Watch what happens in the spring.



    Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have lots of great ideas, your very right. Also Former Congresswoman Diane Watson has posed some good ideas as well.

    The OWS is tired of the top 1% taking everything away from the poor. There are many out there with no jobs, while the rich and the workers on Wall Street live it up.