Cain: China is "trying to develop nuclear weapons"

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    Nov 02, 2011 8:59 PM GMT
    I kid you not. Not know the name of a far-away central Asian country's president is fine, but seriously? China has had nuclear weapons for longer than I've been alive. And I knew about it in primary school.

    Part of his China policy:

    "And secondly, we already have superiority in terms of our military capability, and I plan to get away from making cutting our defense a priority and make investing in our military capability a priority, going back to my statement: peace through strength and clarity. So yes, they're a military threat. They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability, and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have. So yes, we have to consider them a military threat."
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/nov/02/herman-cain/herman-cain-said-china-trying-develop-nuclear-weap/

    Rated "pants on fire."
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    Nov 02, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    he should stick 2 scripted speeches, otherwise...nvm.
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    Nov 02, 2011 9:55 PM GMT
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:06 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said"Develop" = Enhance and expand

    "Create" = Acquire via purchase or constructing something that currently doesn't exist.



    here is the full definition of develop as a transitive verb (emphasis added).

    de·vel·op verb di-ˈvel-əp, dē-

    Definition of DEVELOP
    transitive verb
    1a : to set forth or make clear by degrees or in detail : expound b : to make visible or manifest c : to treat (as in dyeing) with an agent to cause the appearance of color d : to subject (exposed photograph material) especially to chemicals in order to produce a visible image ; also : to make visible by such a method e : to elaborate (a musical idea) by the working out of rhythmic and harmonic changes in the theme
    2a : to work out the possibilities of b : to create or produce especially by deliberate effort over time
    3a : to make active or promote the growth of b (1) : to make available or usable (2) : to make suitable for commercial or residential purposes c : to move (as a chess piece) from the original position to one providing more opportunity for effective use
    4a : to cause to unfold gradually b : to expand by a process of growth c : to cause to grow and differentiate along lines natural to its kind d : to become infected or affected by
    5: to acquire gradually
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:10 PM GMT
    "They've indicated that they're trying to develop nuclear capability"

    Herman, it's not 1954. That's enough - back to pizzas.
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:13 PM GMT
    Can't wait to see try to unwind that one. What, he doesn't know what year it is.

    Shit, even I am far more knowledgeable on foreign policy than he is. Fuck, I’m gonna run for POTUS. Too bad I had so many J/O buddies in high school who might talk! icon_biggrin.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_wink.gificon_wink.gif
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    Too bad I had so many J/O buddies in high school who might talk!

    They might constitute a firm base - go for it!
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
    tazzari saidToo bad I had so many J/O buddies in high school who might talk!

    They might constitute a firm base - go for it!


    Not anymore! Look in my profile at my age icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:48 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 said"Develop" = Enhance and expand

    "Create" = Acquire via purchase or constructing something that currently doesn't exist.



    here is the full definition of develop as a transitive verb (emphasis added).

    de·vel·op verb di-ˈvel-əp, dē-

    Definition of DEVELOP
    transitive verb
    1a : to set forth or make clear by degrees or in detail : expound b : to make visible or manifest c : to treat (as in dyeing) with an agent to cause the appearance of color d : to subject (exposed photograph material) especially to chemicals in order to produce a visible image ; also : to make visible by such a method e : to elaborate (a musical idea) by the working out of rhythmic and harmonic changes in the theme
    2a : to work out the possibilities of b : to create or produce especially by deliberate effort over time
    3a : to make active or promote the growth of b (1) : to make available or usable (2) : to make suitable for commercial or residential purposes c : to move (as a chess piece) from the original position to one providing more opportunity for effective use
    4a : to cause to unfold gradually b : to expand by a process of growth c : to cause to grow and differentiate along lines natural to its kind d : to become infected or affected by
    5: to acquire gradually
    I WAS gonna do that.... but decided that SB could care less about facts...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 02, 2011 10:58 PM GMT
    You've got to give him credit though--China did test its first aircraft carrier recently.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14470882

    But it's not "more aircraft carriers like we have"--it's their first.

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    Nov 03, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    The bigger issue is "don't underestimate China". They are stronger and more patient than we give them credit to be.

    We need to continue to encourage travel, culture exchange, fair trade, and mutually beneficial international cooperation.

    We need China, and China needs US.
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    Nov 03, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidThe bigger issue is "don't underestimate China". They are stronger and more patient than we give them credit to be.

    We need to continue to encourage travel, culture exchange, fair trade, and mutually beneficial international cooperation.

    We need China, and China needs US.

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    Apparently Cain is of the McCain 'take then on' mentality, at least that's the impression I got from his rhetoric back in 08' and even since. Some of these far right candidates with their nationalistic and shortsited American Exceptionalism rhetoric, are an embarassment to the US and totally miss just how much better off all countries are in working together, because in reality we all need each other.

    The more we all work together the better off we are, which goes along with the old saying about 'no country ever goes to war with its trading parnter'.
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    Nov 03, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    INGRAHAM: What do you make of that comment? Is that accurate what he said about China?

    RICE: Well no clearly he misspoke. It is obvious that China is increasing its military capability. They’ve built an aircraft carrier for the first time and that sort of thing. They have have been a nuclear power for quite a long time as a matter of fact that’s one reason that they are grandfathered under the nonproliferation treaty because they were a nuclear power before that treaty came in to being so…people misspeak and not everybody’s a foreign policy expert going in to a presidential campaign. [...]

    Let’s give it the benefit of the doubt and say maybe it was misspoken but obviously if you’re going to run for president you’re eventually going to really have to know these things because China is a big challenge out there in a lot of important ways, including militarily.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/nov/02/herman-cain/herman-cain-said-china-trying-develop-nuclear-weap/Editor's note: After we published this item, Cain addressed his statement in an interview with the Daily Caller website. "Maybe I mispoke," Cain said. "What I meant was, China does not have the size of nuclear capability that we have. They do have a nuclear capability."


    Now if he would just say the same thing about his 999 debacle.