Message to the many lurkers: No worries - you don't have to be a damn socialist to be gay!

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    Nov 03, 2011 12:00 PM GMT
    Either the classical socialist described by Marx and Engels or the so-called modern socialist of Western Europe and the US Fringe, you don't have to be one. Good news indeed.

    That is all.

    Well maybe not. Read on ...
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    Nov 03, 2011 1:02 PM GMT
    Grassroots strategy

    Obama campaign will be highly negative because they don’t have much positive to run on.

    Opposition campaign should have a negative component because running against an incumbent is, in part, negative.

    Labeling is very powerful, and associations that define and strengthen labels should be exploited.

    OWS presents an excellent opportunity to greatly expand the “socialist” label.

    Most politicians on the left who embrace such policies do not have the courage, or political intelligence to call themselves socialist. Bernie Sanders is a counter-example, demonstrating honesty that others avoid.

    Most on the right have been hesitant to use the socialist label, which is highly toxic.

    It is not a great leap to properly describe the ringleaders of OWS as socialists. That label, together with similar images comparing their activities in the US with the riots in Greece strengthens both the use of the label and the association of dire results of socialist policies.

    The Democrats embracing OWS also strengthen their association and make themselves more vulnerable to the label.

    Grassroots folks should now more freely use the term, socialist, to describe the progressive Democratic policies. The description is honest, considering the term is commonly used to describe policies in Western Europe. Parties and politicians there label themselves as socialists.

    Labeling individual politicians as socialist should be avoided in the near-term. It is too drastic. Instead, label their policies as consistent with socialist policies. Continue to emphasize the relationship between the Democrats and OWS, and with the situation in Greece.

    In the longer term, the label should not be used to describe politicians such as Pelosi. It will be more effective if used only on Obama. After a few months describing Obama’s policies as socialistic, there will be a smaller leap to label Obama as a socialist and portray him as a socialist whose policies will drive us towards the misery being felt in Greece.

    This policy should be distributed. No need to keep it secret, as the Obama supporters would see it anyway. The beautiful thing is the more they attack the policy, the more they, themselves, must use the term “socialist”. The more the term is used publicly, the more it will stick.
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    Nov 03, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    Is it time to panic yet? Obama is climbing in the polls while the GOP is floundering. Who will the GOP blame when Obama wins re-election? Have homosexuals and homosexual agenda destroyed the once great Republican party?
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    Nov 03, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidIs it time to panic yet? Obama is climbing in the polls while the GOP is floundering. Who will the GOP blame when Obama wins re-election? Have homosexuals and their agenda destroyed the once great Republican party?


    I wouldnt say we destroyed the republican party (or that it was once great TBH) but I will say that the Republican party's stance on gay marriage and such has hurt the party more than helped at this point. Support for gay rights has become more and more common, and those who stand against it will be seen as thinking in the past.
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    Nov 03, 2011 4:58 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidIs it time to panic yet? Obama is climbing in the polls while the GOP is floundering. Who will the GOP blame when Obama wins re-election? Have homosexuals and homosexual agenda destroyed the once great Republican party?

    Minor day to day poll fluctuations are not significant. The overall numbers including if the country is on the right track are devastating for Obama, and his team knows it.
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    Nov 03, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidIs it time to panic yet? Obama is climbing in the polls while the GOP is floundering. Who will the GOP blame when Obama wins re-election? Have homosexuals and homosexual agenda destroyed the once great Republican party?



    No, I hate to break it to you, but we're not THAT important or powerful to destroy the GOP.
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    Nov 03, 2011 5:08 PM GMT
    Just laughing about an article i read in the dallas morning news this morning where Chris Wilson (connected to perry campaign and suspected to leak Cain sexual harrassment issue) sabatoged campaigns in 2002 by connecting Texas House cadidates to the "homosexual agenda" and sent out mailers to the public showing men kissing. Allowed the GOP to take over texas legislature.