Didn't turn on a single light on at home today...

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    Nov 05, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    ...except my new solar-charged lights. Bought several models from Amazon last week and tried them all today. The most portable seems to be the Firefly12 (and it's still on after 4 hours at the medium setting).
    Of course the next gadget I need is the solar-powerd netbook that Samsung put out earlier this year.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 05, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    Nice.
    FIREFLY12-DESKLAMP.jpg
    I wanna get a Firefly and maybe one of those BayGen type crank radios...
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:29 PM GMT
    No wonder we're in a recession. I'm living like somebody in a third-world country with these solar lights when I could be making more money for the electricity companies. icon_lol.gif

    Did I tell you my gas bill this past month was $12 (it would have been $0 were it not for the stupid monthly fee that Columbia Gas charges)? and my house is set at 60 degrees for the winter?
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
    You're also power-outage ready.

    How are you heating? Wood burning? Solar?
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:54 PM GMT
    Beaux saidYou're also power-outage ready.

    How are you heating? Wood burning? Solar?


    Gas. I had to turn the service on because I use gas for cooking. In September I had almost no gas use (just cooked) for heat, so my bill was $0(but they charge a monthly fee of $12 regardless of usage).

    This month I will probably use something like $2 worth of gas for heating the house.
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    Nov 05, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    Condensing HE gas furnace?

    I have a new hybrid unit.
    It uses an electric heat exchanger and a gas furnace.
    The 'brain' decides which to use, but at colder outdoor temps it usually uses just the gas. Also have gas hot water.

    Remodeling. Eventually will have a gas cooktop and fireplace.
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    Nov 05, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    I heard solar technology produces so much toxic waste in the metal-working process you might as well use carbo-fueled...
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    Nov 05, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
    GreenHopper saidI heard solar technology produces so much toxic waste in the metal-working process you might as well use carbo-fueled...


    I'm gonna call bullshit on that. Plus if it were true, I think it'd make more sense to develop non-toxic panels than to continue on with our current energy-sourcing methods.
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    Nov 05, 2011 6:10 PM GMT
    ^hate-to-be-a-debbie-downer-but-thought-y

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    Nov 05, 2011 8:45 PM GMT
    Beaux saidCondensing HE gas furnace?

    I have a new hybrid unit.
    It uses an electric heat exchanger and a gas furnace.
    The 'brain' decides which to use, but at colder outdoor temps it usually uses just the gas. Also have gas hot water.

    Remodeling. Eventually will have a gas cooktop and fireplace.


    I moved into a brand new house (built with energy saving technologies). That's probably why.
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    Nov 05, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    Interesting article:

    http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/03/the-ugly-side-o.html

    Up here, Kinder Morgan (US corp) bought our gas co. Using .01 gigjoules of gas a day (hot water) costs about 50 dollars a month now after all the gas company's creative fees.

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    Nov 05, 2011 9:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said Interesting article:

    http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/03/the-ugly-side-o.html

    Up here, Kinder Morgan (US corp) bought our gas co. Using .01 gigjoules of gas a day (hot water) costs about 50 dollars a month now after all the gas company's creative fees.



    Lol, I was just about to post the same link.

    However, it must be better for all those third would countries to use solar lights rather than gas/oil lamps.

    I'm not naive...I realize that nothing comes from nothing, and producing solar panels must consume energy. And I live in PA, so I'm not looking into installing solar power anytime soon.

    Using solar panels to make solar panels...now that's a thought.icon_biggrin.gif