I just got fired from my job!

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    Nov 05, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
    Yeah, I got fired from my part-time job as a gas station clerk for failing 3 compliance checks (in a period of 2 years). I'm ok with having to find another job, but I'm a little worried about my future career. Isn't it really bad for your career to have been fired in past jobs? Or does it depend on why you were fired?
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    In Arizona, a potential employer may ask two questions:


    Was "_______" employed by you?
    What dates was "_______" employed by you?

    I know most states are similar.

    You could always not list them as a past employer if you are worrried, but at the risk of having a gap in your resume...
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:35 AM GMT
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    that's even lamer than me getting fired for being 10 minutes late a few times.
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    I challenge anyone to provide a link to a law in their state that limits the information a former employer can give to only that the person was employed by the company and the dates the person was employed.
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:28 PM GMT
    Iceblink saidI challenge anyone to provide a link to a law in their state that limits the information a former employer can give to only that the person was employed by the company and the dates the person was employed.


    What Employers Can Say About Former Employees

    http://jobsearch.about.com/od/backgroundcheck/f/whatemployerscansay.htm

    "There are no federal laws restricting what information an employer can disclose about former employees. If you were fired or terminated from employment, the company can say so. They can also give a reason. For example, if someone was fired for stealing or falsifying a time sheet, they can explain why the employee was terminated.

    That said, because of laws regarding defamation (which is slander or libel) companies are usually careful about what information they provide to hiring managers confirming employment or checking references. What they say has to be the truth or the company can be subject to a lawsuit from the former employee. Legally, they can say anything that is factual and accurate.

    Concern about lawsuits is why most employers only confirm dates of employment, your position, and salary.

    State labor laws vary, so check your state labor department website for information on state labor laws that limit what employers can disclose about former employees."

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    Nov 05, 2011 4:31 PM GMT
    Iceblink saidI challenge anyone to provide a link to a law in their state that limits the information a former employer can give to only that the person was employed by the company and the dates the person was employed.


    Its not a law that says they cant do it, but if they say something (even if it is true) and it ends up that the person does not get the job from it, said person can come back and sue their past employment, so employers do not give out info for liability purposes.
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:32 PM GMT
    idunno the laws where u r but i do know in TX past employers arent allowed to say if uve been fired
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
    I was once fired by some bitch managing editor at a local weekly whose neice moved to town and wanted my job. From there I became an award winning employee with an international publisher. Getting fired worked out very well, thank you.
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidIn Arizona, a potential employer may ask two questions:


    Was "_______" employed by you?
    What dates was "_______" employed by you?

    I know most states are similar.

    You could always not list them as a past employer if you are worrried, but at the risk of having a gap in your resume...


    In Texas, you can also ask if the former employer would rehire the past employee. Not sure about other states. Most employers give an emphatic yes and endulge in the employees good qualities, a flat out no, or no comment.
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:37 PM GMT
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:41 PM GMT
    Regardless if the past employer will say anything about the firing, will the prospective employer ask?
    Likely.
    "Why did you leave your previous job?"
    Be ready with something less damning than "I got fired".
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    Nov 05, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    Anduru saidare-you-serious-rage-face-240x180.jpg

    that's even lamer than me getting fired for being 10 minutes late a few times.


    That sucks; I'm rarely "not" more than 10 minutes late and have been for 17 years.
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
    Many great men and women were fired from a job at least once. (Steve Jobs, for example - and there are so many more). This is something we can use as a learning experience and we can turn this into a positive. I got fired once when I was outed. (Does this happen, even in high paying white collar careers? It sure as Hell does. Think about that before coming out at your company). I went on to a better company and turned what was an ugly homophobic situation into something much better.

  • suedeheadscot

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    Nov 05, 2011 5:26 PM GMT
    Hey mate - you have youth on your side, you're 21 and this will only seem like a blip in 5 years time (trust me!) When I was 21 many moons ago ("oooh check out Grandad!" I hear you all say), i got fired from a lot of jobs for being cheeky, late, on drugs (!). I'm now almost 39 and fairly settled into a career of sorts. You can always say you were "actively seeking employment" on your CV. Why not do some volunteering work to keep you going? Just an idea!
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:31 PM GMT
    Start saving money, apply for food stamps and update your resume bro, it's gonna be a long and bumpy ride. I would know...
  • kemoze

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    Nov 05, 2011 5:37 PM GMT
    First off how are you?

    actually don't worry about this at all, we live we learn. and this was just a part-time job. not your actual life career so get over this

    i would like to tell you that we may fail one time, two times or even more this does not mean that we are losers no no at all we just try and fail and try again as long as we are positive people we will do it till we make it work one time.

    Kareem
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:39 PM GMT
    owh man .. thats sux .. well yeah its kinda worrying .. but u know .. u might just find a good job that u can do ur best there ..
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
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    Iceblink saidI challenge anyone to provide a link to a law in their state that limits the information a former employer can give to only that the person was employed by the company and the dates the person was employed.


    Its not a law that says they cant do it, but if they say something (even if it is true) and it ends up that the person does not get the job from it, said person can come back and sue their past employment, so employers do not give out info for liability purposes.



    Yes, that is true, but some of the information being presented here is as if states have regulations against disclosing information other than the person was employed and the time period he was employed. Whether they would win a lawsuit if the information given by a past employer was true is another matter as 30 states have Job Reference Shield Laws to protect the employer. Here is part of the law concerning Arizona that was mentioned here in this thread:

    "If reference is presented in good faith, the employer is not liable for the disclosure regarding job references provided information regarding job performance, professional conducts, evaluation or reason for termination is provided in good faith." (Ariz Rev. Stat. §12-1361)

    Here is a link with a breakdown of the states with these laws to protect the former employer:

    http://www.crimcheck.com/resources/job-reference-shield-laws.htm
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    Nov 05, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    I work in Human Resources and it is conventional law to only provide dates of employment and the position you were in.
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    Nov 05, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    bpk1982 saidI work in Human Resources and it is conventional law to only provide dates of employment and the position you were in.



    That is conventional and is what most employers do, but it is not law.

    Ohio:

    "At the request of the employee or former employee, an employer may disclose information regarding the employee’s job performance to a prospective employer and retain immunity from civil liability as long as the employer does provide false information and the employer has no knowledge of its falsity or acted with malice or reckless disregard for the truth." (OH Rev Code §4113.71)


    "At the request of an employee or former employee" can mean nothing more than you signed a job application giving the potential employer permission to check your references and do a background check.
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    Nov 05, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
    NO, its not bad for your career... Ive been fired before and my jobs after that did not suffer...

    I guess its bad if you get a bad reference