US Time Zone Change

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    Nov 06, 2011 12:14 PM GMT
    We just had our semiannual 1-hour change from daylight savings to standard time in the US. In some ways easier in recent years, since lots of devices we use as clocks will reset themselves, like cell phones and Internet computers. But others don't, and mostly being digital now I have the damnedest "time" setting their time, with all their button sequences, different for each one.

    The microwave wants it done one way, the oven (cooker) another, the coffee maker yet different, the house phone extension I haven't figured out yet, and that's just in the kitchen. I'm surprised the car doesn't automatically set, since it has satellite radio, I thought it could get a signal downloaded to it, so I'll be making a trip out to it shortly. Thank God the Blu-ray player sets itself, its predecessors the VCRs were among the worst in the world to figure out, and the satellite signal box is likewise self-setting.

    I've got 2 digital wristwatches I can't do at all, but they're supposed to regulate themselves daily from a time signal sent from Denver, Colorado. Only problem is that south Florida is about the farthest point from Denver in the Lower 48, so it only works when the watches are outside and the atmospherics are cooperating. So I've gotta go sit on the lawn with them in a little while and hope to get a good signal, otherwise their time will remain an hour off until Denver eventually "talks" to them. I know I certainly don't understand them myself.

    Then I've got a few battery-powered analog wall clocks I like for decorative purposes, and gotta climb up and take them down to reach their setting wheels in back. Hanging them back onto their wall hooks is always the hardest part, you do it blind by feel. But I've already set the 2 digital cameras and video recorder, they were intuitive enough I didn't need the instructions (wherever they are).

    The modern digital world -- yah gotta love it! What are your own trials & tribulations with time changes, in parts of the world where they take place?
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    Nov 06, 2011 12:39 PM GMT
    it always seems like (to me, anyway) that the time change switch was backwards from what it should be.
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    Nov 06, 2011 12:43 PM GMT
    Here in NYC, the time change means that when I leave the house at 7 am it won't be dark (at least for another month or so until the seasons really catch up).

    I think you folks closer to the equator don't feel the effects as much as we do. Must make a big difference in places like Fairbanks or Aberdeen or Helsinki.
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:12 PM GMT
    I woke up this morning 5 hours before work. Then looked at the computer (which changes automatically) and realized I have 6 hours before work. That means enough time to cook breakfast, workout, do laundry, go grocery shopping, cook again, and jack off...all before work. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:12 PM GMT
    Besides the energy savings, I think of the annual hunt for devices that don't automatically change time every year as a mild test on my incipient Alzheimer's. icon_lol.gif
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_change#Dispute_over_benefits_and_drawbacks
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:13 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI woke up this morning 5 hours before work. Then looked at the computer (which changes automatically) and realized I have 6 hours before work. That means enough time to cook breakfast, workout, do laundry, go grocery shopping, cook again, and jack off...all before work. icon_biggrin.gif


    But then you lose an hour later on in the spring.
    I always dreaded being on call during the "fall back" because there's one more hour of potential lost sleep if I get called in.
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:32 PM GMT
    Its the only time of the year when I wish I lived in Arizona - since they just ignore the whole time change thing.
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 said
    paulflexes saidI woke up this morning 5 hours before work. Then looked at the computer (which changes automatically) and realized I have 6 hours before work. That means enough time to cook breakfast, workout, do laundry, go grocery shopping, cook again, and jack off...all before work. icon_biggrin.gif


    But then you lose an hour later on in the spring.
    I always dreaded being on call during the "fall back" because there's one more hour of potential lost sleep if I get called in.
    I don't lose an hour in the spring. I gain an hour of daylight. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:47 PM GMT
    I think the daylight savings time ... time manipulations are an outdated artifact of the early industrial age.

    It had a purpose when most work was either in farming or in factories where making the best use of sunlight during the summer and winter mattered - particular the further north one went

    Not very relevant when people are producing and consuming services at all hours of the day and night.
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    Nov 06, 2011 1:57 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidI think the daylight savings time ... time manipulations are an outdated artifact of the early industrial age.

    It had a purpose when most work was either in farming or in factories where making the best use of sunlight during the summer and winter mattered - particular the further north one went

    Not very relevant when people are producing and consuming services at all hours of the day and night.


    It's more complicated than that. As with everything, there are winners and losers:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Dispute_over_benefits_and_drawbacksRetailers, sporting goods makers, and other businesses benefit from extra afternoon sunlight, as it induces customers to shop and to participate in outdoor afternoon sports.[54] In 1984, Fortune magazine estimated that a seven-week extension of DST would yield an additional $30 million for 7-Eleven stores, and the National Golf Foundation estimated the extension would increase golf industry revenues $200 million to $300 million.[55] A 1999 study estimated that DST increases the revenue of the European Union's leisure sector by about 3%.[7] Conversely, DST can adversely affect farmers and others whose hours are set by the sun.[4] For example, grain harvesting is best done after dew evaporates, so when field hands arrive and leave earlier in summer their labor is less valuable.[56] DST also hurts prime-time broadcast ratings,[5] drive-ins and other theaters.[57]

    Changing clocks and DST rules has a direct economic cost, entailing extra work to support remote meetings, computer applications and the like. For example, a 2007 North American rule change cost an estimated $500 million to $1 billion.[58] Although it has been argued that clock shifts correlate with decreased economic efficiency, and that in 2000 the daylight-saving effect implied an estimated one-day loss of $31 billion on U.S. stock exchanges,[59] the estimated numbers depend on the methodology[60] and the results have been disputed.[61
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    Nov 06, 2011 2:00 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidI think the daylight savings time ... time manipulations are an outdated artifact of the early industrial age.

    It had a purpose when most work was either in farming or in factories where making the best use of sunlight during the summer and winter mattered - particular the further north one went

    Not very relevant when people are producing and consuming services at all hours of the day and night.

    An interesting point. Benjamin Franklin was a big proponent of implementing daylight savings in the US, but as you note, that was when the world was candle-lit and horse-powered.

    It's been claimed it's safer for the kids, so they don't go to school in the dark. But now with most being bused I see them taking off in total morning darkness the entire school year in the US, anyway. And there are supposed to be cost savings to industry, though I think that's a poorly proven theory.

    Frankly, I'd rather see no time changes. What you gain or lose in the morning is cancelled out by opposing changes at night. It's a zero-sum game, since you can't actually alter the length of the day.
  • mynyun

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    Nov 06, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
    I envy Arizona and Hawaii. They aren't slaves to this daylight "savings" time sh!t.
  • rnch

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    Nov 06, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    Kobaltjak saidHere in NYC....



    as difficult as it is for some new york city residents to believe; the world does NOT revolve around NYC.

    there IS intelligent life "south of the bronx".


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    Nov 06, 2011 4:39 PM GMT
    Every box I have that has a clock - TV, microwave, phone, computer, are thankfully all capable of setting themselves.

    On the other hand, this damn time change will fuck my sleep schedule up for weeks.
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    Nov 06, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
    "That means that I have to spend the extra hour I get trying to put the clock back in that stupid little nail on the wall." -David Letterman
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    It was nice to have the extra hour in bed this morning.
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:39 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidI think the daylight savings time ... time manipulations are an outdated artifact of the early industrial age.

    It had a purpose when most work was either in farming or in factories where making the best use of sunlight during the summer and winter mattered - particular the further north one went

    Not very relevant when people are producing and consuming services at all hours of the day and night.


    But even if so, why couldn't people just show up to work an hour earlier? Changing the actual convention of time is moronic. DST only makes sense if you assume that the population is smart enough to regulate their day according to the clock, but too stupid to adjust their schedules.

    And BTW, farmworkers adjust their schedule according to the sun. The number on the clock doesn't matter.
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    CHIdude said"That means that I have to spend the extra hour I get trying to put the clock back in that stupid little nail on the wall." -David Letterman

    Just what I said in my OP. I don't normally think about these things, but I begin to believe it's all a big scam. More trouble than it's worth, just smoke & mirrors -- let's get rid of it!
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    We changed last weekend. Clocks went back an hour. I slept in and was late for work and was gonna use the clocks as an excuse, till I realised you can only do that in the spring ...

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    Nov 06, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    YAY! We are all one hour younger than when we went to bed!!!!!
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:54 PM GMT
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    Cash saidYAY! We are all one hour younger than when we went to bed!!!!!
    You would...


    I'm sorry I feel funny talking to you now with the time change - I think this makes you Jail Bait.

    I look forward to speaking with you again in the Spring.
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
    Incidentally, last Monday my cancer doctor was late for our appointment. I initially assumed it was due to heavy flooding we had down here, which had our own car bobbing like a boat at one point at 6:30 AM, I thought we were goners.

    But no, he drove down from the north, which didn't see our flooding. No, his bedroom clock had reset itself, based on a memory chip that had been programmed for the old US time change dates, in effect for decades.

    Manufactured before the war criminal Bush had shifted the dates, in a feeble attempt to aid the failing US economy. Banks, investment firms, mortgage companies and US automakers were going belly-up, and what did Bush do to correct the crisis? He extended daylight savings time! Brilliant response!

    So my doctor's bedroom clock has got an outdated chip that reset the time incorrectly, as it will continue to do forever, and he overslept an hour. Let's just eliminate this silly time adjustment altogether, and avoid these problems, yes?
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    Nov 06, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
    So does this mean that Trollileo and I can fuck for an extra hour? icon_redface.gif
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    Nov 06, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    CHIdude saidSo does this mean that Trollileo and I can fuck for an extra hour? icon_redface.gif


    I believe you are cleared to go at it until the clocks change again sometime in...April I believe?

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    Nov 06, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    I really dislike today's time change. The earlier sunrise wakes me up too soon. And for a few months it will be night-time by 4PM. Makes no sense at all.