Gay Christian - Really?

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    Nov 06, 2011 8:51 PM GMT
    Hi everyone.
    Made a vid on topic : I just feel that the Christian Taliban paint a really bad picture on Christianity and that true Christianity accepts gay people too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56Mb2FhSEo


    Christians struggling with their homosexuality is something I am sure thousands of people struggle with everyday... perhaps some never even comes to terms with...

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    Nov 07, 2011 8:50 AM GMT
    thank-you. i can't say i struggled w/ my gayness vis-a-vis my church. what i did struggle w/ is what ppl would think about me. it finally came to the pt where i decided what other ppl think isn't as important as being true to myself. coming out was a liberating experience.

    i subscribed to your utube channel. i look forward to future posts by you.

    God bless, and peace be w/ you.
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    Nov 10, 2011 7:09 PM GMT
    Thanks for the comment...

    I agree ... it is such a liberating experience when we finally take the next step and start living our lives and not somebody else's....

    Hopefully many more will take that step into dignity ...
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    Nov 10, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    In my experience, it has often been more of a struggle to have faith around my gay acquaintances than it was to have a boyfriend around my parents. icon_confused.gif

    My dad may quietly object to homosexuality... While my roommate will loudly object to Deity.
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    Nov 10, 2011 7:38 PM GMT
    Thanks for the video.

    I haven't been having the easiest time being accepted, and it often seems like I have to choose between being gay and being a Christian. It's especially difficult when it's my parents who are the most vocal about not supporting it.

    Anyway, it's nice to know there are other gay Christian men out there besides me.
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    Nov 13, 2011 12:34 PM GMT
    nicerough saidThanks for the video.

    I haven't been having the easiest time being accepted, and it often seems like I have to choose between being gay and being a Christian. It's especially difficult when it's my parents who are the most vocal about not supporting it.

    Anyway, it's nice to know there are other gay Christian men out there besides me.


    Just keep staying strong.... I guess life will always be full of obstacles, but it's how we deal with them that creates character...
    all the best!!
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    Nov 13, 2011 12:36 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidNice video, glad you were able to see through the fog and into the light.


    Thanks, it took me a while but I finally "got there"...
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    Nov 13, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    I used to feel bad about myself and thought that I was going to hell. Then I read a site about g0y which helped me out a lot in dealing with myself. But then someone here (paulflexes) told me that that group promotes hate, so then I moved away from that group as well. I still believe though that God loves me even if I were gay. My feelings of love were true and sincere and not all based on lust.
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    Jan 05, 2012 4:26 AM GMT
    There is one basic concept in Christianity that all of us should remember. We are all sinners. Nobody is innocent. We all have our faults. If homosexuality is truly a sin, it is just one of many we all have committed. Seek forgiveness and believe that Jesus is the one path to God, and we will be forgiven.
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    Jan 05, 2012 4:50 AM GMT
    Thaks for your post! I too do not see an incompatibility with being of a Christian faith and being homosexual.

    Love is love.
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    May 18, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
    Its a tough one. I completely understand the sentiment. I know I am often trying to find a balance because of the duality that i feel within myself. Some describe it as self loathing, but I don't. I actually went to seminary/ministry school so I understand the argument for both. Its just something that I may have to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling on.

    @Larkin- I completely agree. A friend of mine recently wrote a blog about it, and surprisingly there was more hate from the gay people that responded than the Christians. I think that whats needed on both side of the fence is grace and forgiveness.
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    Jul 07, 2013 2:12 PM GMT
    I know I'm a little late to this topic, but I wanted to say thanks for posting it.

    I really struggle in this area. I'm gay and a Christian, but am not in a position where I can come out as it means I would lose everything - my job and the majority of my friends. It's a really hard place to be.

    But to know there are others out there who struggle to resolve their faith with their sexuality gives me a bit of comfort.
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    Jul 07, 2013 6:08 PM GMT
    im a christian & proud of my faith
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    Jul 07, 2013 6:10 PM GMT
    im a christian & proud of my faith
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    Jul 07, 2013 9:37 PM GMT
    Gmack saidIts a tough one. I completely understand the sentiment. I know I am often trying to find a balance because of the duality that i feel within myself. Some describe it as self loathing, but I don't. I actually went to seminary/ministry school so I understand the argument for both. Its just something that I may have to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling on.

    @Larkin- I completely agree. A friend of mine recently wrote a blog about it, and surprisingly there was more hate from the gay people that responded than the Christians. I think that whats needed on both side of the fence is grace and forgiveness.

    That is so disturbing... so telling.
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    Jul 07, 2013 9:39 PM GMT
    The OP is HAWT!
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    Jul 07, 2013 9:58 PM GMT
    If people are attacking you for your personal beliefs, then they are like hecklers in the audience. They might seem like the loudest ones, but they don't represent anyone but themselves. It doesn't really make sense to blame the whole gay community over a few people who gave you a hard time. I imagine most of them grew up in religious oppressive households, and they're just projecting their own issues onto you. Most gay people are nice irl. The internet tends to bring out peoples' insensitive sides. I've been guilty of doing it too. But we have to learn from past mistakes.icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 07, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
    Gmack saidIts a tough one. I completely understand the sentiment. I know I am often trying to find a balance because of the duality that i feel within myself. Some describe it as self loathing, but I don't. I actually went to seminary/ministry school so I understand the argument for both. Its just something that I may have to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling on.

    @Larkin- I completely agree. A friend of mine recently wrote a blog about it, and surprisingly there was more hate from the gay people that responded than the Christians. I think that whats needed on both side of the fence is grace and forgiveness.


    +1

    It seems that the gay community doesn't make it easier to find the balance than the Christian community does.
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    Jul 07, 2013 10:03 PM GMT
    I see more struggle with Christians than Christianity. They love using their mistranslated NEW KING JAMES Bible to put someone down.
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    Jul 07, 2013 10:26 PM GMT
    TheQuest said
    Gmack saidIts a tough one. I completely understand the sentiment. I know I am often trying to find a balance because of the duality that i feel within myself. Some describe it as self loathing, but I don't. I actually went to seminary/ministry school so I understand the argument for both. Its just something that I may have to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling on.

    @Larkin- I completely agree. A friend of mine recently wrote a blog about it, and surprisingly there was more hate from the gay people that responded than the Christians. I think that whats needed on both side of the fence is grace and forgiveness.


    +1

    It seems that the gay community doesn't make it easier to find the balance than the Christian community does.

    I don't think the gay community should be compared to a religion. The gay community is the quantity of out gay people, and our allies. Although we complain about stereotypes and not being accepted, there are no rules, no appointed leaders---just various celebrities, organizations, grass roots activists. We're an amorphous group. A religion is much more structured, it guides morals, promises salvation, life after death, requires participation, faith, adherence. Religion is a concept. It's something that has to be taught. Being gay just isn't like that. Sexual orientation does not come with a handbook. The "It gets better" book is not the Bible. It's not even in the same ballpark. It's just reactionary literature, and a fad.

    I defend the right to practice religion without being scorned. I don't agree that the gay community has to answer to religious people. That's not what the gay community is, or ever will be.
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    Jul 07, 2013 10:49 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI don't agree that the gay community has to answer to religious people.

    I must have missed something. Who implied that?
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:06 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter said
    HottJoe saidI don't agree that the gay community has to answer to religious people.

    I must have missed something. Who implied that?

    I get the sense on many of these threads that gay Christians feel they are not accepted by the gay community, because of their religion. I think that's false. The gay community already includes and accepts them, because they are gay. Their religion has nothing to do with it. If they feel their religion is being attacked by anyone, that's a separate issue. There are people of all stripes on the internet who attack religion. It's not telling of the gay community. The gay community is not anti religion. The people who are anti religion aren't spokespeople for the gay community. They represent themselves, and that's it. You said Gmack's post is telling, and it is. But it's telling only of religion v nonreligion. It has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation. That's a stereotype. It's harmful to religious gays, scientific gays, all gays, really.
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:09 PM GMT
    Ok - I don't see how that answers my question but no matter. (8
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:25 PM GMT
    P.S. I think you got a little carried away with your interpretation and rebuttal of my simple comment "so telling."
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    Jul 07, 2013 11:34 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidOk - I don't see how that answers my question but no matter. (8

    What I mean to say is, anyone who says they have to choose between their religion and being gay is failing to understand what the gay community is. The gay community isn't a religion. You don't choose to be gay. If you're religious and gay, then fine, make sure your religion accepts gays. But you can't go around saying the gay community hates religion. It's just ignorant about what the gay community is. It's what leads people to say there is no gay community, which is something you have said before in other threads. People say that all the time. It always makes me go /facepalm.

    If you think that there's no such thing as the gay community it's because you don't know what the gay community is. It's not a religion, it doesn't answer to religion, or apologize to religious people. At best, it shelters us from homophobes, and gives us strength in numbers. If you say it isn't real, then you just don't understand it. If you want religion then find religion. A lot of gays are religious. A lot of straight people are atheists. That's a battle that includes gay people, but it doesn't represent us.