Assaults raise concerns about crime at Occupy L.A.

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    Nov 06, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    More on why Occupy is losing the support of the public - #occupyfail

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1105-occupy-crime-20111105,0,7765367.story

    One woman is charged with setting someone's clothes on fire and another woman is accused of hitting a man with a tent pole, focusing attention on the encampment's future.

    Police were called to two violent incidents at Occupy Los Angeles on Friday, adding to questions about the protest and its future.

    In the morning, a woman was arrested at the encampment outside City Hall after she set another person's clothes on fire, police said. In another incident hours later, a woman was arrested after protesters said she struck a man with a tent pole. Both were booked on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.

    Also Friday, police arrested a man on suspicion of climbing a tree and dumping fluorescent paint on a historic marble fountain that the city barricaded earlier this week to protect from vandalism.

    The incidents are distressing, city officials say, because up until now protesters at Occupy Los Angeles have been mostly peaceful.

    "We have not seen violent incidents like this," Los Angeles Police Department Cmdr. Andrew Smith said. "But two felonies from the south lawn in one day? This has raised concerns for us."

    Last week, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said the encampment "cannot continue indefinitely," citing health and safety concerns. He has instructed city officials to begin drafting a plan to identify another location for the demonstration. But it's not clear when the plan will be announced or whether the protesters will agree to move.

    Villaraigosa spokesman Peter Sanders said Friday that the city is working with protesters to assure the safety of those camping on the City Hall lawn. "But," he said, "we recognize that a number of the individuals who are on the lawn are not affiliated with the Occupy L.A. protest."

    The encampment's location in the heart of downtown has attracted more than just people protesting economic policies that they say have created an unfair distribution of wealth. A sizable number of homeless people have joined the camp — some who identify themselves as protesters and some who don't — along with a range of other curiosity-seekers.

    Protester Orameh Bagheri, who is organizing a teach-in with college professors and community activists this weekend, said the camp is "an open public space. There's people coming in, and we don't necessarily throw people out."

    Bagheri said the camp's safety committee is working on how to address acts of aggression, which she said are an anomaly. "It is a nonviolent movement," she said.

    Compared with New York, where Occupy Wall Street protesters have had a tense relationship with police, or Oakland, where protesters have rioted, the relationship between police and demonstrators in Los Angeles has been quite relaxed. Marijuana smoke wafts throughout the encampment during the day, but there have been few drug-related arrests.

    Most of the crimes reported have been petty, police said, as in another incident on Friday morning. As a heavy rain fell downtown, employees at a Starbucks near the encampment called police after they noticed that two patio umbrellas had been stolen.

    Officers found the umbrellas — which had been painted in an unsuccessful attempt to disguise them — at Occupy Los Angeles.
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    Nov 06, 2011 11:06 PM GMT
    OY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?
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    Nov 06, 2011 11:21 PM GMT
    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.
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    Nov 07, 2011 12:29 AM GMT
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    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.


    Oh yes. Two incident of violence among thousands of people who are poor and disenfranchised. I mean, it's obviously completely out of control. It's not like two assaults regularly occur at say a rock concert or a sporting event, or - hell - some families' holiday parties.

    I guess all the concern trolls are extra concerned now that the message is resonating and Obama's approval rating is up 6 points.
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    Nov 07, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.


    Oh yes. Two incident of violence among thousands of people who are poor and disenfranchised. I mean, it's obviously completely out of control. It's not like two assaults regularly occur at say a rock concert or a sporting event, or - hell - some families' holiday parties.

    I guess all the concern trolls are extra concerned now that the message is resonating and Obama's approval rating is up 6 points.


    Lol - relative to what?
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    Less than concerned. I am enjoying the spectacle of it... and given that Obama has bought into the movement to distract people from how miserable the economy has been and his role in Wall Street, he has hung his hat on a sinking ship. But expect the media hoopla to shift away now that this is the case.
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    Nov 07, 2011 1:27 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.


    Oh yes. Two incident of violence among thousands of people who are poor and disenfranchised. I mean, it's obviously completely out of control. It's not like two assaults regularly occur at say a rock concert or a sporting event, or - hell - some families' holiday parties.

    I guess all the concern trolls are extra concerned now that the message is resonating and Obama's approval rating is up 6 points.


    Lol - relative to what?
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    Less than concerned. I am enjoying the spectacle of it... and given that Obama has bought into the movement to distract people from how miserable the economy has been and his role in Wall Street, he has hung his hat on a sinking ship. But expect the media hoopla to shift away now that this is the case.


    Do you actually consume any American media? Because you certainly wouldn't know it from your posts. A recent study illustrated that Obama has had quite negative media coverage, particularly when compared to the GOP candidates who've gotten a walk on serial adultery, paying hush money to women they've sexually harassed, engaging in dangerous and discredited "psychotherapy", endless lies and distortions, and so on.

    In terms of OWS, it's just beginning and Obama - rightly - took the side of 99% of Americans and will be reelected because of it.
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    Nov 07, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.


    Oh yes. Two incident of violence among thousands of people who are poor and disenfranchised. I mean, it's obviously completely out of control. It's not like two assaults regularly occur at say a rock concert or a sporting event, or - hell - some families' holiday parties.

    I guess all the concern trolls are extra concerned now that the message is resonating and Obama's approval rating is up 6 points.


    Lol - relative to what?
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    Less than concerned. I am enjoying the spectacle of it... and given that Obama has bought into the movement to distract people from how miserable the economy has been and his role in Wall Street, he has hung his hat on a sinking ship. But expect the media hoopla to shift away now that this is the case.


    Do you actually consume any American media? Because you certainly wouldn't know it from your posts. A recent study illustrated that Obama has had quite negative media coverage, particularly when compared to the GOP candidates who've gotten a walk on serial adultery, paying hush money to women they've sexually harassed, engaging in dangerous and discredited "psychotherapy", endless lies and distortions, and so on.

    In terms of OWS, it's just beginning and Obama - rightly - took the side of 99% of Americans and will be reelected because of it.

    If you seriously believe OWS is going to be a factor for Obama getting reelected, you really are sadly mistaken. I am enjoying this OWS, because it has become clear to an ever increasing number of people that it is led by unions, Democratic-friendly political organizations, and joined by the anarchists.
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    Nov 07, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.


    Oh yes. Two incident of violence among thousands of people who are poor and disenfranchised. I mean, it's obviously completely out of control. It's not like two assaults regularly occur at say a rock concert or a sporting event, or - hell - some families' holiday parties.

    I guess all the concern trolls are extra concerned now that the message is resonating and Obama's approval rating is up 6 points.


    Lol - relative to what?
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    Less than concerned. I am enjoying the spectacle of it... and given that Obama has bought into the movement to distract people from how miserable the economy has been and his role in Wall Street, he has hung his hat on a sinking ship. But expect the media hoopla to shift away now that this is the case.


    Do you actually consume any American media? Because you certainly wouldn't know it from your posts. A recent study illustrated that Obama has had quite negative media coverage, particularly when compared to the GOP candidates who've gotten a walk on serial adultery, paying hush money to women they've sexually harassed, engaging in dangerous and discredited "psychotherapy", endless lies and distortions, and so on.

    In terms of OWS, it's just beginning and Obama - rightly - took the side of 99% of Americans and will be reelected because of it.

    If you seriously believe OWS is going to be a factor for Obama getting reelected, you really are sadly mistaken. I am enjoying this OWS, because it has become clear to an ever increasing number of people that it is led by unions, Democratic-friendly political organizations, and joined by the anarchists.
    Hmmmmm there are republicans and independents here in the tampa bay area OWS gatherings.. I guess they must be 'traitors' huh?
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    TropicalMark said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    GQjock saidOY icon_rolleyes.gif After a hard day of trollin Rid you feel the need for a beer or a chilled Chardonnay?


    Neither. Though it's largely unnecessary since the articles that get posted here by your ilk seem to willingly ignore the front page postings on news.google. But again, it's messaging like this that is being reported on the front pages of news aggregators that show that it's a message that's trending. Occupy is starting to look less like nirvana/woodstock and more Lord of the Flies - at least insofar as perception goes.


    Oh yes. Two incident of violence among thousands of people who are poor and disenfranchised. I mean, it's obviously completely out of control. It's not like two assaults regularly occur at say a rock concert or a sporting event, or - hell - some families' holiday parties.

    I guess all the concern trolls are extra concerned now that the message is resonating and Obama's approval rating is up 6 points.


    Lol - relative to what?
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    Less than concerned. I am enjoying the spectacle of it... and given that Obama has bought into the movement to distract people from how miserable the economy has been and his role in Wall Street, he has hung his hat on a sinking ship. But expect the media hoopla to shift away now that this is the case.


    Do you actually consume any American media? Because you certainly wouldn't know it from your posts. A recent study illustrated that Obama has had quite negative media coverage, particularly when compared to the GOP candidates who've gotten a walk on serial adultery, paying hush money to women they've sexually harassed, engaging in dangerous and discredited "psychotherapy", endless lies and distortions, and so on.

    In terms of OWS, it's just beginning and Obama - rightly - took the side of 99% of Americans and will be reelected because of it.

    If you seriously believe OWS is going to be a factor for Obama getting reelected, you really are sadly mistaken. I am enjoying this OWS, because it has become clear to an ever increasing number of people that it is led by unions, Democratic-friendly political organizations, and joined by the anarchists.
    Hmmmmm there are republicans and independents here in the tampa bay area OWS gatherings.. I guess they must be 'traitors' huh?


    Just as there have consistently been Independents and Democrats at tea party gatherings which have been much larger. But as has been consistently also stated - given the unfocused nature of the protests it's quite easy to be upset about the bailouts and also disagree with much of the aims of the left wing protesters who make up a much larger portion of the group.

    btw - Keep the dream alive Christian icon_wink.gif