Michael Vick murders dogs

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    Jul 18, 2007 4:19 AM GMT
    Jesus God, our local QB, Michael Vick, has been indicted for his part in a dogfighting operation. Says our local daily:

    "A federal grand jury on Tuesday indicted Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick for his alleged role in a well-established dogfighting operation in Virginia where breeders fought pit bulls for purses as high as $26,000 and some losing dogs were electrocuted, drowned, hanged or shot to death.

    "The National Football League, where Vick is one of the highest-paid players, called the activities alleged in the indictment 'cruel, degrading and illegal.'"

    The full story is grotesque:
    http://tinyurl.com/33qls9

    Why in hell would anyone get involved in such an enterprise?
  • atxclimber

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    Jul 18, 2007 6:04 AM GMT
    Maybe it's just a quirky fascination he has.
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    Jul 18, 2007 7:07 AM GMT
    Oh, probably has something to do with that 'brutality can be hot'.
    But seriously for some sick humans have an appetite for the violent and brutal whether real or simulated.
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    Jul 18, 2007 1:50 PM GMT
    Whoops, looks like I linked to the wrong story. Here is the story on the indictment:

    http://tinyurl.com/3bgjub

    Thanks for sharing, Dugan.
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    Jul 18, 2007 1:52 PM GMT
    Man, that's just bad and wrong.

    That's badong.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:06 PM GMT
    May I suggest not reading the thread, Dugan, if it disturbs you so much.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:16 PM GMT
    Okay, guys, settle down.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:17 PM GMT
    it makes me sick to my stomach. but since he's an nfl superstar he'll be excused. especially from little sissies like dugan. what a bunch of crock you are girlie boy. i know your type. you got a big mouth but you can't back it up. wish is too classy to say this to you punk, but i ain't.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:23 PM GMT
    Um, 40 is the number of posts he written, not his age.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:27 PM GMT
    Well, if you have something intelligent and worthwhile to say, then feel free to say it.

    If not, keep it to yourself.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:31 PM GMT
    i'm 4 years older than you, moron. i call you 'girlie boy' cuz that is what you are. you not only have a big mouth but you're stupid. you got nothing going for you. too bad. i actually feel sorry for you now.
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    Jul 18, 2007 2:50 PM GMT
    I'm sure you know better than I, Obscenewish, that the need such violent activity speaks to is a deep seated feeling of powerlessness. The violent control/harm of another life makes them feel powerful in turn. Perhaps a version of the same issue is what is affecting Dugan880.
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    Jul 18, 2007 4:36 PM GMT
    I was going to suggest that Dugan be removed, but at the time I'm posting, it looks like he already has been. Kudos to whoever reported him.
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    Jul 18, 2007 4:49 PM GMT
    "...and some losing dogs were electrocuted, drowned, hanged or shot to death. The National Football League, where Vick is one of the highest-paid players, called the activities alleged in the indictment 'cruel, degrading and illegal.'"

    This is sociopathic behavior. I just got into this thread this morning, and heard about the indictment also only this morning. This is nauseating.

    Thank goodness I never had to read the posts of whoever that Dugan guy was...they were all gone by this morning.

    The Atlanta Falcons need to take a strong stand, including suspending him* pending his trial, and then releasing him if he's found guilty or pleads no contest on any of he counts. The NFL should suspend him pending the results, and if he pleads or is found guilty or no contest, he should be banned for life from the NFL.

    *His pay should go into an escrow account pending the results of the trial. If he's found innocent, he gets the pay. if he is found guilty on any count or pleads no contest, he loses the money.

    John

  • fryblock

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    Jul 18, 2007 6:37 PM GMT
    that fucking pisses me off. I'm vegan for one, so that goes unsaid. but i work at petsmart when im home from college and i was working the registers when he bought hundreds of dollars worth of dog stuff for his puppy pitbull. it disgusts me to think he is going to raise it as a fighter.
  • MYKENVA

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    Jul 19, 2007 5:53 PM GMT
    He should go to jail, but will prob. only get a slap on the wrist. He has helped his little brother out of trouble so many times who should be in jail too. Shows what lots of money can do for you.
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    Jul 19, 2007 5:56 PM GMT
    The NFL isn't even suspending him so far.
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    Jul 19, 2007 6:42 PM GMT
    Disturbing beyond words.
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    Jul 19, 2007 7:14 PM GMT
    well maybe before throwing him in jail we should let the trial proceed?

    i'm not defending him but people get accused of all kinds of shit, so maybe we should wait to see when the evidence comes out.

    my question is why would someone do that? it's not for money, so he must actually enjoy it. don't people who torture and kill animals usually end up doing crazy shit to other people?
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    Jul 19, 2007 7:40 PM GMT
    JF is right about waiting for the trial to proceed....guilty til proven, etc. But, hmm, let's all remember that it's too often who has the slickest lawyers that determines just what the law decrees. Right OJ?
  • jc_online

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    Aug 21, 2007 12:57 PM GMT
    So Michael Vick will plead guilty to felony dog fighting conspiracy charges. That's an unexpected twist.

    As much as I detest what he was involved in, I do have a glimmer of respect for his owning up to it.

    Now we'll see what happens to his career...
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    Aug 21, 2007 1:28 PM GMT
    "The NFL isn't even suspending him so far."

    Because NFL sees him as an income... The almighty power of $$$$$$$...

    It is all just lip service... "We do not support his behavior, Bad Boy!" But it stops there...

    What is this image we have for professional atheltes as "heros"...? What is so different from otehr entertainment industries like music and movie pop stars..? Only one in a very few makes it, it honors team work, it is competitive, it takes skills... Well, the same can be said about the music and movie industries...
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    Aug 21, 2007 1:33 PM GMT
    Vick didn't own up to shit. He agreed to plead guilty and accept responsibility only after very much time in consultation with lawyers and image people. The man should have to spend his incarceration (if there is any) in a kennel with a few hungry pitbulls. That this man is being treated with such kid gloves is despicable. Who does he think he is, Paris Hilton?
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    Aug 21, 2007 1:46 PM GMT
    The NFL can only to continually see him as an income if the public shows support for this guy, meaning buy tickets for the games and watch them on TV...

    This is not unlike movie/TV actors and music pop stars behave badly... If their actions actually sell more tabloids and continue to sell more records or get viewers for their shows... Guess what, the networks and the record lable would just do the same: lip service and nothing else...

    If the image hurts the income level, then these organizations will drop these "celebrities."

    At the end, it has nothing to with ethics. It has everything to do with $$$$$$$$.....
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    Aug 21, 2007 3:17 PM GMT
    Well, at least he's straight. If he said, "I train dogs to kill each other and if they don't I shoot or hang them. Oh, by the way, I'm gay" the reporters would go, "Ick--you have sex with men?" :(