Conrad Murray Found Guilty in Death of Michael Jackson

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    Nov 07, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    Just announced.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/07/justice/california-conrad-murray-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

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    Nov 07, 2011 10:22 PM GMT
    yep
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    Nov 07, 2011 10:30 PM GMT
    One word: GOOD
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:09 AM GMT

    Conrad Murray should NOT be the only one convicted of a crime in this poor man's tragic life. There were many others before him... including his father.
    One of the most despicable people who profited from MJ's sad life is Dr. Arnie Kline, who I had the displeasure of meeting at his home in Palm Springs.
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:12 AM GMT
    It's very sad when you're rich enough and sick enough to be able to pay for people to medicate you to death
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:22 AM GMT
    This is terrible. I believe Michael Jackson injected himself when the dr was not in the room... that man was in a lot of pain from stuff and was hardly living it seemed.
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:23 AM GMT
    GQjock saidIt's very sad when you're rich enough and sick enough to be able to pay for people to medicate you to death


    So very true, GQ. His sad existence was doomed from the start. A classic case of "stage moms & dad" and having to live up to others' expectations.
    There were so many people dependent on his success...he never had a chance to live his life on HIS terms.
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    running11 saidThis is terrible. I believe Michael Jackson injected himself when the dr was not in the room... that man was in a lot of pain from stuff and was hardly living it seemed.
    Bullshit
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    Justice Served
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    Nov 08, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    Not really surprised by the outcome to be honest.

    Someone was bound to pay for this. Might as well be the doctor/drug dealer (Yes, I called him a drug given how he went about supplying MJ with a potentially dangerous drug for profit and not for his well being). I don't think Murray is the only one to blame for this but he is surely the hand that pushed the envelope on this one.

    Sadly, this isn't the first time nor will this be the last time we hear of something like this.
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    Nov 08, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
    The media needed a whipping boy.
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    Nov 08, 2011 4:07 AM GMT
    I don't ever think a guilty decision can be made just from what we hear on the news, but the evidence certainly pointed to him being guilty. Michael Jackson was certainly weird, but almost his entire life was taken away from him by his parents.
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    Nov 08, 2011 4:19 AM GMT
    Yeah so lets see what happens to him.
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    Nov 08, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    Who the flying lizard dung gives a rat's asshole of a fuck about Michael Jackson? This situation is what is wrong with society in the United States today, we go apeshit over celebrities and gossiping about their lives when we have soldiers and sailors, marines and airmen overseas fighting for all of us. We watch with rapt attention, a celebrity trial when millions of Americans are unemployed, underemployed, homeless or otherwise destitute and all we seem to care about is what bloody perfume J.Lo is wearing.



    America needs to get their priorities straight.
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    Nov 08, 2011 4:57 AM GMT
    I agree with the defense. This should not be something prosecuted in a criminal court. This should be taken before the Medical Board.
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    Nov 08, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    I hate how people act like MJ was some kind of saint... dude made some good music (a very long time ago), but he was a drug addict and most likely a pedophile...
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    Nov 08, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
    graniteknighte saidWho the flying lizard dung gives a rat's asshole of a fuck about Michael Jackson?



    Oh, only about a gazillion people around the world. Michael Jackson was, after all, "The King of Pop" and one of the greatest and most influential entertainers that ever lived. You, at 19, can't even fathom the influence he had over pop music and helping to revolutionize the whole concept of music video, MTV, etc.

    That said, I have mixed emotions about the verdict. Having worked for Michael Jackson's manager in the late 80's/early 90's, I know all too well the very specific challenges that came with being a part of the Michael Jackson universe. I truly believe that there is no one more heart-broken than Conrad Murray at what happened to Michael, because he knew in his heart that he played a part in what happened, even though it was a horrible accident. I think he deserved the verdict, but I do not want to see him go to prison for it. At the end of the day, the one who is really responsible for Michael Jackson's death is Michael Jackson himself. The life he lead, and the pressures that went with being one of the world's biggest and most famous entertainers was, in the end, more than he could take.
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    Nov 08, 2011 5:20 AM GMT
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    graniteknighte saidWho the flying lizard dung gives a rat's asshole of a fuck about Michael Jackson?



    Oh, only about a gazillion people around the world. Michael Jackson was, after all, "The King of Pop" and one of the greatest and most influential entertainers that ever lived. You, at 19, can't even fathom the influence he had over pop music and helping to revolutionize the whole concept of music video, MTV, etc.

    That said, I have mixed emotions about the verdict. Having worked for Michael Jackson's manager in the late 80's/early 90's, I know all too well the very specific challenges that came with being a part of the Michael Jackson universe. I truly believe that there is no one more heart-broken than Conrad Murray at what happened to Michael, because he knew in his heart that he played a part in what happened, even though it was a horrible accident. I think he deserved the verdict, but I do not want to see him go to prison.


    Although I believe MJ would have found propofol eventually , ( he was hell bent on getting it) there is NO defense to using this drug at home outside of the ability to put someone on mechanical ventilation.

    Propofol has the unfortunate habit of dropping blood pressure fast, even in the ICU its a drug that has to be watched very closely.

    Since i practice in this demographic of "celebrity " I can tell you any M.D. that becomes ala carte menu to the celebrity whim , does at his OWN PERIL.

    Medicine is paternalistic, he should have turned down the job if it entailed "giving him Propofol in MJ's house"

    Hopefully Murray will be able and freed up to discuss MJ's Dermatologist. Who is more responsible for MJ's torturous addictions.
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    graniteknighte saidWho the flying lizard dung gives a rat's asshole of a fuck about Michael Jackson?



    Oh, only about a gazillion people around the world. Michael Jackson was, after all, "The King of Pop" and one of the greatest and most influential entertainers that ever lived. You, at 19, can't even fathom the influence he had over pop music and helping to revolutionize the whole concept of music video, MTV, etc.

    That said, I have mixed emotions about the verdict. Having worked for Michael Jackson's manager in the late 80's/early 90's, I know all too well the very specific challenges that came with being a part of the Michael Jackson universe. I truly believe that there is no one more heart-broken than Conrad Murray at what happened to Michael, because he knew in his heart that he played a part in what happened, even though it was a horrible accident. I think he deserved the verdict, but I do not want to see him go to prison for it. At the end of the day, the one who is really responsible for Michael Jackson's death is Michael Jackson himself. The life he lead, and the pressures that went with being one of the world's biggest and most famous entertainers was, in the end, more than he could take.


    Very true. MJ was repsonsible for MJ but let's keep it real. Conrad had a responsibility too and he failed to do it. He could've done his job and refused to get the stuff for him. He didn't and the moment he chose not to do his job to the best of his abilities, which would've and should've been him saying no to MJ's request, that's when he became responsible for MJ's death. Simple as that. When your doctor doesn't have your best interests in health then there's a problem and they should be held accountable for it. I'm sorry too that Murray has be in this situation but he seriously knew better and that's what it boils down to. We all know MJ had a few screws loose so what is the doctors excuse? None.
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    Nov 08, 2011 8:56 PM GMT
    Stimpy586 saidI hate how people act like MJ was some kind of saint... dude made some good music (a very long time ago), but he was a drug addict and most likely a pedophile...


    He was an addict, but the details of the both of the pedophilia allegations were ludicrous in their specifics, not to mention both times other celebrities came forward to accuse Jackson's accusers of also trying to extort money from them with similar allegations. Jackson's acquittal of those charges were very sound decisions; he probably did not commit pedophilic acts -- his thoughts and emotions are anybody's guess.

    This verdict too makes sense. Murray is obviously not guilty of intent to kill, but he was obviously negligent. The drugs he administered should never have been 1) administered without proper monitoring in a hospital-like setting according to the prosecution's even or 2) left alone with a drug-addled addict. Murray was criminally negligent even according to his own defense (he left the room and Michael gave himself the fatal doses).
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:42 PM GMT
    MICHAEL JACKSON DEATH TRIAL
    JACKSON FAMILY LOSES

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/02/michael-jackson-verdict-wrongful-death-trial-katherine-jackson-aeg-lawsuit/
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
    metta8 saidMICHAEL JACKSON DEATH TRIAL
    JACKSON FAMILY LOSES

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/02/michael-jackson-verdict-wrongful-death-trial-katherine-jackson-aeg-lawsuit/


    what!? greedy abusive junkie's parents don't get no cash?
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    Oct 03, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
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    Oct 03, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
    damnn, if he had Obamacare, he'd still be alive