Conservative Court Upholds Health Care Reform Law

  • creature

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    Nov 08, 2011 11:36 PM GMT
    A conservative-leaning panel of judges from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia upheld the lower court's ruling that Congress acted within the law in passing the Affordable Care Act.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/08/obama-health-care-reform-_n_1081865.html
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    Nov 08, 2011 11:46 PM GMT
    I see SB and the Ilk .... rapidly clicking thru every single Red soaked Conservative blog there is .... TRYING .... Trying Oh so very hard to find ANYTHING that would counteract this blow to their cause

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    Nov 08, 2011 11:53 PM GMT
    This passage is somewhat remarkable:

    Laurence SilbermanThat a direct requirement for most Americans to purchase any product or service seems an intrusive exercise of legislative power surely explains why Congress has not used this authority before–but that seems to us a political judgment rather than a recognition of constitutional limitations. It certainly is an encroachment on individual liberty, but it is no more so than a command that restaurants or hotels are obliged to serve all customers regardless of race, that gravely ill individuals cannot use a substance their doctors described as the only effective palliative for excruciating pain, or that a farmer cannot grow enough wheat to support his own family. The right to be free from federal regulation is not absolute, and yields to the imperative that Congress be free to forge national solutions to national problems, no matter how local–or seemingly passive–their individual origins.


    ...in its federal-trumps-state/individual argument and emphasis on political judgment appropriate to the times.
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    Nov 09, 2011 12:04 AM GMT
    I though there had to be a victim under a law to be able to contest the law in a legal case where suffering has to be proved.

    Who is the plaintiff in this case who is suffering when the health care bill has not even taken effect?
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    Nov 09, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
    Great news. The conservaposse must be foaming at the mouth. Romneycare for all!!
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    Nov 09, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    This is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.
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    Nov 09, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    no reply from southbeach jane/christopher?



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    Nov 09, 2011 12:46 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.
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    Nov 09, 2011 12:51 AM GMT
    creature said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.


    Exactly. What this panel has said is that certain problems are of such a major scope that they only solutions are federal ones. Given the rising costs of healthcare and an aging population, which combined will suck up more and more of our national wealth, a national strategy is necessary.
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    Nov 09, 2011 1:27 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    creature said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.


    Exactly. What this panel has said is that certain problems are of such a major scope that they only solutions are federal ones. Given the rising costs of healthcare and an aging population, which combined will suck up more and more of our national wealth, a national strategy is necessary.



    We are turning into Nazi Germany. Something is being forced on us that we dont want.
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    Nov 09, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    Do the Democrats have any ideas that dont involve taking peoples money and expanding government? A good video to go along with it. Talks about Obama's fairness too.


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    Nov 09, 2011 2:04 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    creature said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.


    Exactly. What this panel has said is that certain problems are of such a major scope that they only solutions are federal ones. Given the rising costs of healthcare and an aging population, which combined will suck up more and more of our national wealth, a national strategy is necessary.



    We are turning into Nazi Germany. Something is being forced on us that we dont want.


    Unless you or someone else we don't know about is being led to the gas chambers, we're not turning into Nazi Germany.
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    Nov 09, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    creature said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.


    Exactly. What this panel has said is that certain problems are of such a major scope that they only solutions are federal ones. Given the rising costs of healthcare and an aging population, which combined will suck up more and more of our national wealth, a national strategy is necessary.


    As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with Christian. Healthcare is an issue, moreso individual health insurance is such a shit show that something had to be done. I look forward to seeing where this bill takes us and the effect it has on healthcare.
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    Nov 09, 2011 2:26 AM GMT
    Chainers said
    Christian73 said
    creature said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.


    Exactly. What this panel has said is that certain problems are of such a major scope that they only solutions are federal ones. Given the rising costs of healthcare and an aging population, which combined will suck up more and more of our national wealth, a national strategy is necessary.


    As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with Christian. Healthcare is an issue, moreso individual health insurance is such a shit show that something had to be done. I look forward to seeing where this bill takes us and the effect it has on healthcare.


    Thanks, Chainers. (Now back to our vicious sniping at each other. 1, 2, 3...)
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    Nov 09, 2011 2:43 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    Chainers said
    Christian73 said
    creature said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is where States Rights come into play. Today the Ohio Voters have gone to the polls to vote on Issue 3. If passed (which its predicted to do) it will block the Romney/Obamacare mandate. The people dont want it and the country cannot afford it.


    The law doesn't go completely in effect until 2014, and by then it is likely the Supreme Court would have heard the case. And if upheld by the Supreme Court, then it was a wasted effort as federal statutes trump state law.


    Exactly. What this panel has said is that certain problems are of such a major scope that they only solutions are federal ones. Given the rising costs of healthcare and an aging population, which combined will suck up more and more of our national wealth, a national strategy is necessary.


    As much as it pains me to say this, I agree with Christian. Healthcare is an issue, moreso individual health insurance is such a shit show that something had to be done. I look forward to seeing where this bill takes us and the effect it has on healthcare.


    Thanks, Chainers. (Now back to our vicious sniping at each other. 1, 2, 3...)


    Eh, it tends to go back and forth for me. I am middle of the road for politics so their are times I am against you, catfish and the like and others I am against SB, CuriousJock, SoCalFitness, etc.

    More importantly, I am just on the political thread to stir shit, so shit stirring happens when Im logged on...lol.