2012 Presidential Election

  • RTDoran

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    Nov 10, 2011 1:24 AM GMT
    Has anyone been watching the Republican debates from an objective viewpoint? We need to worry that the U.S does not end up like Greece or Italy. Social issues are nice but we, actually, need to worry more about jobs, the GDP and the economy as a whole.
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    Nov 10, 2011 2:24 AM GMT
    In Michigan Republicans are working on an anti-gay bill that would prevent cities, towns, townships, and universities from adding sexual orientation to their nondiscrimination policies. In Iowa and New Hampshire conservatives are working to repeal gay marriage in those states. In Tennessee the governor has already signed a bill preventing municipalities from enacting nondiscrimination policies not already recognized by the state and have been working on a 'Don't Say Gay' bill that would prevent teachers from discussing homosexuality with students even if asked about it. In 2008 while the economy was failing conservatives pushed proposition 8 in California and won. In Ohio, the now repealed by voters SB 5 had language included to go beyond the ban of gay marriage constitutional amendment that had already been passed. Several of the Republican candidates have said they would support an amendment to the U.S. constitution to ban gay marriage and some have even said they would try to repeal the repeal of DADT.

    The economy may be in poor shape, but there are those out there on the other side that find time for social issues and work against us and take away our rights, so how can we ever put our rights on the back burner? Not only do we not gain anything that way, we come out having what little we have taken away from us.
  • dancedancekj

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    Nov 10, 2011 2:30 AM GMT
    Not hard to be objective when many of the candidates are doing poorly in both categories. Huntsman in 2012 or bust. More likely bust at this point.
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    Nov 10, 2011 2:43 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    RTDoran saidHas anyone been watching the Republican debates from an objective viewpoint? We need to worry that the U.S does not end up like Greece or Italy. Social issues are nice but we, actually, need to worry more about jobs, the GDP and the economy as a whole.



    As you can see, your views will face a steep uphill climb here among the RJ membership.

    There are a few of us here, though, that share your view.



    Yes, those liberal hens and their selfish, worthless cause of human rights. Civil rights- what a waste of time.
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    Nov 10, 2011 2:45 AM GMT
    RTDoran saidHas anyone been watching the Republican debates from an objective viewpoint? We need to worry that the U.S does not end up like Greece or Italy. Social issues are nice but we, actually, need to worry more about jobs, the GDP and the economy as a whole.

    You don't actually have to make major compromises. Social issues are mostly, but not completely, at the state level. My approach is to support these at the state level and focus at the national level for a sound, pro-business, pro-growth set of policies that will prevent us sliding us towards the situation facing Italy and Greece. After getting rid of the progressive liberals who are driving us in that direction, we can emphasize social issues more at the national level.

    Many of the guys who support the left are strong leftists or don't pay much attention the economy and are completely driven by gay marriage.
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    Nov 10, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
    jpBITCHva said (though to be fair we probably don't really understand what makes you take the views you do either).
    You dont? I do!

    MONEY.
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    Nov 10, 2011 7:02 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    jpBITCHva said (though to be fair we probably don't really understand what makes you take the views you do either).
    You dont? I do!

    MONEY.


    And GREED
  • creature

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    Nov 10, 2011 12:25 PM GMT
    jpBITCHva said
    socalfitness saidMany of the guys who support the left are strong leftists or don't pay much attention the economy and are completely driven by gay marriage.

    Oh that old meme again.
    All you demonstrate when you repeat it is that you really don't understand what animates liberals (though to be fair we probably don't really understand what makes you take the views you do either).


    He should know better.

    In the News & Politics sub-forum, more than the issue of gay marriage has been discussed. There are other issues like global warming, welfare reform, healthcare reform, etc. that divide us.

    And the Democrat representatives I vote for, for the most part, agree with my stance on these other issues. It's not just gay marriage.

    I don't know how many times we have to drive this point before it penetrates their thick skulls.
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    Nov 11, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Iceblink said
    southbeach1500 said
    RTDoran saidHas anyone been watching the Republican debates from an objective viewpoint? We need to worry that the U.S does not end up like Greece or Italy. Social issues are nice but we, actually, need to worry more about jobs, the GDP and the economy as a whole.


    As you can see, your views will face a steep uphill climb here among the RJ membership.

    There are a few of us here, though, that share your view.

    Yes, those liberal hens and their selfish, worthless cause of human rights. Civil rights- what a waste of time.

    I carefully worded my response to be non-judgmental.

    Sarcastic comment of the day.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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    Nov 11, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    Iceblink said
    southbeach1500 said
    RTDoran saidHas anyone been watching the Republican debates from an objective viewpoint? We need to worry that the U.S does not end up like Greece or Italy. Social issues are nice but we, actually, need to worry more about jobs, the GDP and the economy as a whole.


    As you can see, your views will face a steep uphill climb here among the RJ membership.

    There are a few of us here, though, that share your view.

    Yes, those liberal hens and their selfish, worthless cause of human rights. Civil rights- what a waste of time.

    I carefully worded my response to be non-judgmental.

    Sarcastic comment of the day.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


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