Maybe i just need Casein

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    Nov 10, 2011 5:16 AM GMT
    I've been increasing the intensity of my work outs lately...

    BUT NOW I'M ALWAYS HUNGRY... Stomach Burns

    HELP!!! DIETARY SUGGESTIONS!!!
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    Nov 10, 2011 5:44 AM GMT
    dadan saidofftopic, and perhaps a very stupid question. example: what would of been the didfference if ive been training for 5 months, and always took protein instead of casein before going to bed?

    Casein is a form of protein that's digested slowly. Whey is fast digesting so it's good post workout when your muscles need it most. I'm not sure about how drinking casein before bed will affect your results though. I just stick with the whey because the less money I spend the better. You could also go with a blend that has whey and casein in it.
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    Nov 10, 2011 5:45 AM GMT
    If you know you are getting enough calories then suck it up and get used to the hungry state like a man.
    If you are hypocaloric then you need to figure out what you can add.

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    Nov 10, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    dadan saidofftopic, and perhaps a very stupid question. example: what would of been the didfference if ive been training for 5 months, and always took protein instead of casein before going to bed?


    Define,"always took protein."
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    Nov 10, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    To to OP: I'm not an expert on the subject, but you're probably going to have to give more details about what you are eating before anyone can give you advice. In general, eating foods that are slower to digest, like high fiber foods, will make you feel more full for a longer period of time.
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    Nov 10, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    Average day:

    breakfast: 2 eggs scrambled or Omeleted w/cheese and toast(x2)
    a glass of oj and a cup of mint tea

    usually followed up w/ a bowl of oats & raisin bran

    then gym

    then a 2 cans of tuna w/ 8 water crackers

    then zzzz

    dinner at 5 what ever my aunt cooks. today it was beef & Broccoli pasta no sauce just black pepper

    (i had two bowls)

    on a work day between breakfast and dinner it's usually JUST fluids

    i generally don't have a big appetite.

    i once went two days forgetting to eat till i got dizzy...
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    Nov 10, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidTo to OP: I'm not an expert on the subject, but you're probably going to have to give more details about what you are eating before anyone can give you advice. In general, eating foods that are slower to digest, like high fiber foods, will make you feel more full for a longer period of time.


    If the self control isn't there then telling someone to eat X to curb hunger is like telling a crackhead that they can just have a tiny hit.

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    Nov 10, 2011 5:59 AM GMT
    dadan saidofftopic, and perhaps a very stupid question. example: what would of been the didfference if ive been training for 5 months, and always took protein instead of casein before going to bed?


    read up on this and try it see if it helps it's a complex of many diffrent kinds of proteins inclusive of fast and slow absorbing proteins

    procomplex__27862_zoom.jpg
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    effen said
    DudeInNOVA saidTo to OP: I'm not an expert on the subject, but you're probably going to have to give more details about what you are eating before anyone can give you advice. In general, eating foods that are slower to digest, like high fiber foods, will make you feel more full for a longer period of time.


    If the self control isn't there then telling someone to eat X to curb hunger is like telling a crackhead that they can just have a tiny hit.




    Ahem excuse me... sir? is it... i'm not a crack head... lol
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    effen said
    DudeInNOVA saidTo to OP: I'm not an expert on the subject, but you're probably going to have to give more details about what you are eating before anyone can give you advice. In general, eating foods that are slower to digest, like high fiber foods, will make you feel more full for a longer period of time.


    If the self control isn't there then telling someone to eat X to curb hunger is like telling a crackhead that they can just have a tiny hit.



    Given his profile pic, I was going on the assumption that his problem isn't over-eating. icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:02 AM GMT
    Eat every 2 hours.
    Eat good carbs - whole wheats, wheat bread, brown rice, sweet potatoes, etc.
    Lots of water
    Piss regularly

    ...and repeat
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:03 AM GMT
    The_Dollarwine saidAverage day:

    breakfast: 2 eggs scrambled or Omeleted w/cheese and toast(x2)
    a glass of oj and a cup of mint tea

    usually followed up w/ a bowl of oats & raisin bran

    then gym

    then a 2 cans of tuna w/ 8 water crackers

    then zzzz

    dinner at 5 what ever my aunt cooks. today it was beef & Broccoli pasta no sauce just black pepper

    (i had two bowls)

    on a work day between breakfast and dinner it's usually JUST fluids

    i generally don't have a big appetite.

    i once went two days forgetting to eat till i got dizzy...


    Are you losing weight on this. Do you stick to this every day?

    If you stick to this amount of calories every day you should be able to see if you need more cals pretty easy.

    I think you probably already know what you should do icon_smile.gif

    If you want to try more cals then go for it as it's part of the fun of dialing it in!


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    Nov 10, 2011 6:10 AM GMT
    The_Dollarwine saidAverage day...


    I can't do the calorie counts for this, but it sounds like your lunch isn't enough. A rough guess is that you're eating about 300 calories with tuna and crackers. No wonder you're hungry.

    If you really want to do it right, you need to start by figuring out how much you are eating in a day. Then try to see if that's enough based on how much you are exercising. An obvious indication is whether you are losing weight or gaining muscle, but sometimes it's not that simple. If you are under-eating, your body may go into self-preservation mode, and you may not lose weight.
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:15 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA said
    The_Dollarwine saidAverage day...


    I can't do the calorie counts for this, but it sounds like your lunch isn't enough. A rough guess is that you're eating about 300 calories with tuna and crackers. No wonder you're hungry.

    If you really want to do it right, you need to start by figuring out how much you are eating in a day. Then try to see if that's enough based on how much you are exercising. An obvious indication is whether you are losing weight or gaining muscle, but sometimes it's not that simple. If you are under-eating, your body may go into self-preservation mode, and you may not lose weight.


    i'll try this ... i shouldn't have stopped doing it
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    Nov 10, 2011 6:34 AM GMT
    Dial your shit in and if you find the right amount of cals but you are still hungry then learn to deal with an unfed state.
    Humans have a nice and strong unfed signal because when we were all cavemen we had to eat whenever we could to live. Now we have food everywhere at all times so our burning hunger is a large exaggeration of what we actually need.

    You just have to learn to win this with your mind.
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    Nov 10, 2011 7:09 AM GMT
    randy_ruut said
    The_Dollarwine saidAverage day:

    breakfast: 2 eggs scrambled or Omeleted w/cheese and toast(x2)
    a glass of oj and a cup of mint tea

    usually followed up w/ a bowl of oats & raisin bran

    then gym

    then a 2 cans of tuna w/ 8 water crackers

    then zzzz

    dinner at 5 what ever my aunt cooks. today it was beef & Broccoli pasta no sauce just black pepper

    (i had two bowls)

    on a work day between breakfast and dinner it's usually JUST fluids

    i generally don't have a big appetite.

    i once went two days forgetting to eat till i got dizzy...


    son, you eat like a bitch.


    inbox me your recomendations
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    Nov 10, 2011 1:04 PM GMT
    Like people are saying, eating 5-7 meals every in 2-3 hour intervals is ideal.

    Casein protein is good before bed because it digests slowly, and your body is technically fasting when you're asleep.

    The_Dollarwineon a work day between breakfast and dinner it's usually JUST fluids


    Fluids, even if they are meal replacement shakes, will sometimes make you feel hungry faster than if it was a meal of solid food.

    Honestly, the key is to set a quota for calories everyday, plan your meals to meet that quota, and adjust that amount depending on your goal (losing weight, gaining weight, maintaining).
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    Nov 10, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
    "on a work day between breakfast and dinner it's usually JUST fluids"


    wut. There is your answer. You're getting a calorie deficit, then going home eating and then still ending up without enough to get through an intense workout.

    Your profile says you are 180 and 5'7.. so are you trying to gain or lose?

    You still need to eat eitherway. Even if its just some carb loading a few hours before you workout for the energy boost.

    Some people take dextrose during a workout to keep energy up as well. They sell a shitty powdered form or you can just eat some gummy bears icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 10, 2011 4:05 PM GMT
    adam228 said"on a work day between breakfast and dinner it's usually JUST fluids"


    wut. There is your answer. You're getting a calorie deficit, then going home eating and then still ending up without enough to get through an intense workout.

    Your profile says you are 180 and 5'7.. so are you trying to gain or lose?

    You still need to eat eitherway. Even if its just some carb loading a few hours before you workout for the energy boost.

    Some people take dextrose during a workout to keep energy up as well. They sell a shitty powdered form or you can just eat some gummy bears icon_razz.gif


    i'm really trying to maintain
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    Nov 10, 2011 7:43 PM GMT
    So then you definitely need to find a way to eat a consistent amount of calories daily. These sharp divides are fucking with your energy, metabolism and a lot of other things.
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    Nov 11, 2011 1:26 AM GMT
    thanks a lot just read it! ye my question was kinda lame haha, ty
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    Nov 11, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    The_Dollarwine saidI've been increasing the intensity of my work outs lately...

    BUT NOW I'M ALWAYS HUNGRY... Stomach Burns

    HELP!!! DIETARY SUGGESTIONS!!!
    Eat more.
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    Nov 11, 2011 1:34 AM GMT
    I'm shocked that nobody replied about the excessive tuna! The mercury contained is bad for you! Glance at this chart from the Natural Resources Defense Council...at best you should probably consume no more than one can every three days!

    http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/tuna.asp

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    Nov 12, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    adam228 saidSo then you definitely need to find a way to eat a consistent amount of calories daily. These sharp divides are fucking with your energy, metabolism and a lot of other things.


    is that why my sex drive is in the grave?
    lol... it is though
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    Nov 12, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    Fishfriend saidI'm shocked that nobody replied about the excessive tuna! The mercury contained is bad for you! Glance at this chart from the Natural Resources Defense Council...at best you should probably consume no more than one can every three days!

    http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/tuna.asp



    the tuna thing isn't every day... some days it's sardines or mackerel... love that canned fish stuff...lol