Say no to "Whey"?

  • guymansf9

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    Nov 14, 2011 1:45 AM GMT
    Hey guys, I am a college student that takes time out of my schedule to go to the rec center and lift weights 3-5 times a week. Trying to build some mass in my body. I have been recently been drinking whey protein shakes post-workout (about 30 min after) and have been seeing results that I like.

    My concern is the health of this "whey" powder. Ive been hearing over and over that it can have very negative effects on your body from heart disease to diabetes. I know that it just depends on who you ask, but I was wondering what you all have experienced with this.


    Feel free to message me privately if you have any advice for me as far as working out goes! Thanks!!!
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    Nov 14, 2011 3:26 AM GMT
    I've used it for 3 years and saw no effects from it so far. Not sure about the older folks on this site. Just stop if you develop any conditions.
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    Nov 14, 2011 3:37 AM GMT
    whey is safe, you can get heart desease and diabetes from orange juice
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    Nov 14, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    Whey IS food. Hence no "supplement facts" on the label. It also has a breakdown of the amino acid content on the containers.

    Now you can use ncbi to look up all the studies you need, for each amino acid in it, to figure out if there is any real risk. You provided nothing as evidence to support your concern so I suggest you go find some.

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    Nov 14, 2011 5:48 AM GMT
    charlitos saidwhey is safe, you can get heart desease and diabetes from orange juice

    This.
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    Nov 14, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    just wondering, do you drink protein shake everyday even on the day you're not work out?
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    Nov 14, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    I've actually read studies that suggest whey protein could reduce the risk of heart disease. So the real answer is: they don't know yet.

    I assume that some of the heart concerns come from the fat/saturated fat/cholesterol content of whey protein. Just include the content of your protein shakes in your calculations of how much of these fats you are eating to see if you are getting too much.

    There are also different types of whey protein. I take whey protein isolate, which has less fat and cholesterol. You may want to look into this if you are concerned. Whey protein isolate is more expensive, but it has more protein per scoop. (I take it because it has almost no lactose in it.)

    Make sure you are drinking plenty of fluids and eating plenty of fiber, but you should be doing these things whether or not you are taking a protein supplement.
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    Nov 14, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    I don't think it will give you diabetes but I did read something like how the dairy proteins supposedly damage the pancreas, sometimes it's people with a vegan agenda....on the other hand, there are just as many people saying that whey is beneficial for people with Type II diabetes. so..... just use the whey and don't worry about it.

    http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2005/11/01/4435/whey-proteins-may-increase-insulin-secretion-and-improve-bg-control/
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    Nov 14, 2011 7:25 AM GMT
    Whey and sucralose have both caused me severe bloating and "anal fire".

    I just eat lean meats/fish for my protein and can then actually fit into my clothes. icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 14, 2011 11:48 AM GMT
    The biggest problem you are going to have with whey is some terrible constipation. Fiber is your friend....trust me icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 14, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    guymansf9 saidHey guys, I am a college student that takes time out of my schedule to go to the rec center and lift weights 3-5 times a week. Trying to build some mass in my body. I have been recently been drinking whey protein shakes post-workout (about 30 min after) and have been seeing results that I like.

    My concern is the health of this "whey" powder. Ive been hearing over and over that it can have very negative effects on your body from heart disease to diabetes. I know that it just depends on who you ask, but I was wondering what you all have experienced with this.


    Feel free to message me privately if you have any advice for me as far as working out goes! Thanks!!!


    You know a friend of mine just passed away a few short weeks ago. Granted he was changing his diet around, was sick apprently with a cold and took soemthing (what I am not sure) and started taking some Whey Protein product from GNC... and was at least over 325 lbs easily... Im sure that contributed too but I don't know we are waiting on the autopsy. Becareful with that... my suggestion is get it as natural as possible. Ive been doubling up on grilled chicken at my cafe hear on campus just to get the protein and I know it can be a real bitch at times too... seems to be working for me. Im leaning out still and building muscles in my arms and chest which is what Ive been targeting. Sometimes Universities will have their health center actually help you develop a diet that can help you meet your fitness goals. Give that shot. Its what I did and I go to small private catholic unviersity. Good luck!
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    Nov 14, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    I've been doing whey for years and I'm now 50. I get the all natural one from Whole Foods Market.

    My only advice....find an all natural product. Too many are loaded with artificial this and that. So the advice you got might concern the additives to a whey mix...not the whey itself.
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    Nov 14, 2011 9:23 PM GMT
    charlitos saidwhey is safe, you can get heart desease and diabetes from orange juice


    +1
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    Nov 14, 2011 9:41 PM GMT
    I had never heard of this before. Who are your sources dear? The protein in milk is whey.
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    Nov 14, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
    guymansf9 saidHey guys, I am a college student that takes time out of my schedule to go to the rec center and lift weights 3-5 times a week. Trying to build some mass in my body. I have been recently been drinking whey protein shakes post-workout (about 30 min after) and have been seeing results that I like.

    My concern is the health of this "whey" powder. Ive been hearing over and over that it can have very negative effects on your body from heart disease to diabetes. I know that it just depends on who you ask, but I was wondering what you all have experienced with this.


    Feel free to message me privately if you have any advice for me as far as working out goes! Thanks!!!
    I have been using whey protein for years. The problem you might run into is that you may not be drinking enough water. while taking protein you need to increase your water intake dramatically. which means you should consuming about a gallon of water a day. Also do not make whey protein your primary source of protein. Try to eat chicken, fish, and lean beef. If you can afford it try eating ground buffalo or ostrich.
  • guymansf9

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    Nov 15, 2011 3:07 AM GMT
    One of the biggest sources that sparked this question, is the documentary "forks over knifes", It discusses a correlation between what they think is dairy products and cancer/heart disease/diabetes. Knowing whey has the same composition as protein found in milk, I was curious to see what else people have heard. I have an education in animal science, including production, so I definitely know that I shouldn't take one documentary for face value and 100% truth. Just sparked interest and thought i'd ask some others for their opinions. Thanks for your input, more research will be done on my part icon_smile.gif

    and Im still waiting for some exercise advice ;)
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    Nov 15, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
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    Nov 15, 2011 3:15 AM GMT
    guymansf9 said...Knowing whey has the same composition as protein found in milk, I was curious to see what else people have heard...


    Whey doesn't just have the "same composition as protein found in milk".... It IS the protein found in milk. (one of the proteins in milk)
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    Nov 15, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    I use chocolate whey shake powder when I'm backpacking to boost my protein on those strenuous trips. On my last trip I had a total elevation gain of 11,000' with a pack, and I spent three full days climbing. It made a huge difference in my daily recovery and stamina over the six day trip. I found a great way to mix it up with wheat farina (cream of wheat) and either dried cranberries or dried blueberries, a little powdered milk and brown sugar. It is an energy and protein-packed, awesome and light weight backpacking breakfast icon_smile.gif

    Otherwise I don't use too much of it because I think there is some credence to not consuming too much dairy. I wouldn't get freakish about it, but I eat enough dairy in the form of cheese and yogurt, so I try to use whey and milk sparingly. For other protein sources I find ways to include other cheap sources of protein in my diet, like beef stew meat, eggs, beans, inexpensive steaks and pork chops, etc.
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    Nov 15, 2011 5:54 PM GMT
    There's nothing wrong with a whey shake after a hard workout.

    The problem is people who use protein supplements as replacement for real food. You shouldn't be having four and five shakes a day.