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    Nov 14, 2011 11:06 AM GMT
    Well today i was talking to one of my friends..... and he ask.... "whats the difference between Intentions and words"...I said to him that there was none.... for our intentions define our words they go hand in hand together......he didnt agree......so the question to all of yall is. Whats the difference between intentions and words ?
  • Tomz

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    Nov 14, 2011 11:15 AM GMT
    Intentions is more a feeling or goals or behavior we would like to follow through and achieve ect. Words is communication verbally...

    That's my view...
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    Nov 14, 2011 11:19 AM GMT
    What you wish to do through your actions (your intention) is not always what happens. Sometimes people say (or do) things in the wrong way due to ignorance or accident and create outcomes that they did not wish for.
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    Nov 14, 2011 11:34 AM GMT
    Sometimes you might do a action of some sort with prefectly harmless intentions but find you made a terrible mistake. Like for example a thread I started today I had good intentions but it went terrible arrayed.

    Words can be used I'm many ways with good intentions or bad.

    Intentions is a form of motivation we aspire to accomplish a goal.
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    Nov 14, 2011 11:44 AM GMT
    hmmmmmmmm good points....icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 14, 2011 11:46 AM GMT
    You can't really compare the two. They are quite different; one has to do with an intended effect, and the other is just the outcome of an action (speaking/writing).

    It sounds a little like you meant to compare intentions VS outcomes? Specifically, the message you wanted to bring across VS the actual outcome of articulating yourself.
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    Nov 14, 2011 11:58 AM GMT
    "Intention vs. Result: Assesing Our Words and Actions

    Zen Buddhist and Mormon share views about what constitutes positive and negative actions.

    The adage "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" might lead one to think that it is not what one intends or hopes to accomplish that determines what is ultimately good or bad, but rather the final result.

    But according to a local Zen Buddhist teacher and a member of the local Mormon church, one’s true intention decidedly carries more weight in the garden of good and evil.

    In the Zen tradition, karma is understood as the positive or negative actions that one takes.

    “If someone does good or takes positive action in the world then he or she is helping to contribute to positive things happening in the world," said Sensei Ray Ruzan Cicetti, resident teacher of Zen Buddhism at Empty Bowl Zendo in Morristown. "If one takes negative action, then it results in negative energy being dispersed throughout the world."

    But what is positive or good and what is negative or bad?

    Cicetti said while intention is extremely important, one must also take responsibility to consider the potential outcome of one’s actions or words.

    “You can’t simply proceed with just your belief, that you are engaging in good or positive action, you do need to be aware or try to have some insight into the consequences,” he said.

    Mike Crowley, a Morristown attorney and member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Morris Township, agrees. “I would say that one’s intention is extremely important, but morally, as well as legally, one must at least try to be aware of the outcome of one’s actions or words.”

    He said, for instance, legally, one is sometimes responsible for a negative result or harm done to someone if the person taking the action should have or could have foreseen the negative outcome.

    Criminal liability requires both an actus reus, wrongful act, and amens rea, wrongful intention. Civil law, in contrast, holds a person responsible not only for intentional wrongdoing but also for negligent acts or omissions, so long as the resultant harm is reasonably foreseeable, Crowley said.

    In the Zen tradition, Cicetti said it is important to do one’s homework before taking an action to help someone or engage in an action intended to be good or positive.

    However, if someone truly does something with the best of intentions and it still results in a negative outcome, he said the best they can do is to apologize and learn from their mistakes and move on.

    “We all make errors and when we do, we need to heal it and move forward,” Cicetti said.

    Crowley said he believes that we all have an internal gauge that guides us if we truly listen. "We commonly refer to that as the conscience, but adherents to my faith believe it is God-given and refer to it as the light of Christ.

    “I think often an individual may take an action and sort of convince him or herself that it is the right action, but I think deep in their heart the individual knows what is right and what is wrong,” he said.

    Unlike the Tibetan Buddhist tradition that believes that good or bad karma is carried from lifetime to lifetime through reincarnation, the Zen or Mahayana Buddhist tradition believes that there is only now, only the eternal present, according to Cicetti.

    Therefore, as long as we keep our intention pure and focused on doing good in the world, we will raise the vibration of the world.

    Cicetti and Crowley both believe that when all is said and done, one’s true intention must be the guiding force and the basis upon which someone is judged."
    (***http://berkeleyheights.patch.com/articles/intention-vs-result-assesing-our-words-and-actions-7a49d158**)
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    Nov 14, 2011 12:04 PM GMT
    Intent is the action or feeling stemming from the words you do or do not say.

    Words, as they are, are hollow without tone, inflection, intent, and overall diction.
  • Tomz

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    Nov 14, 2011 12:05 PM GMT
    Outcome & results is things achieved or reached it's natural conclusion both good and bad.

    Intentions is outcomes & results we wish to accomplishe and achieve.
  • Tomz

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    Nov 14, 2011 12:07 PM GMT
    I'm off to bed rather interesting thread.
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    Nov 14, 2011 12:24 PM GMT
    There's a big difference between intentions and words...
    Everytime we're used to talking about something there's in our thoughts something similar to what we're saying... or utterly different...
    that's why when we have a dialogue with someone we have to pay attention to the intentions... u can be kind/rude with the words and at the same time your intentions are the opposite. our work is to understand when the others lie or not.
    To the question "How are u?" 2 different people can give the same answer: "I'm fine!" but the way the others answer has to be interesting for you.
    Again... 1)"Close the door!!!!" vs 2)"Could you please close the door?" Also here, the message is the same: closing the door! but the way you talk reveal your intentions, hurting the other one or not! and pay attention... you can be ruder in the second case than in the first one... ^_-
  • Tomz

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    Nov 14, 2011 12:28 PM GMT
    Falling asleep I had a realization

    Words is intentions writing or spoken even indented like how the blind read.

    When we use a word we intend to achieve a certain intended goal of communication that's a form of intention in reaching a desired outcome or result in this way words, intention, outcome and results are all related.
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    Nov 14, 2011 12:30 PM GMT
    Tomz saidFalling asleep I had a realization

    Words is intentions writing or spoken even indented like how the blind read.

    When we use a word we intend to achieve a certain intended goal of communication that's a form of intention in reaching a desired outcome or result in this way words, intention, outcome and results are all related.


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    Nov 14, 2011 12:31 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidWhat you wish to do through your actions (your intention) is not always what happens. Sometimes people say (or do) things in the wrong way due to ignorance or accident and create outcomes that they did not wish for.
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    Agreed!
  • Tomz

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    Nov 14, 2011 7:00 PM GMT
    Please
    Start another like this one Cuz I had funz....
  • disasterpiece

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    Nov 14, 2011 7:17 PM GMT
    Your intentions is your view of the future, near of far, following your wishes. You can expose or hide it, depending on the potentiality of acceptance by other(s).

    Your words are a tool to communicate or share your intentions, but can also be used to dissimulate them in formulations that would fit the other's intentions.

  • Tomz

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    Nov 14, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    Disasterpiece saidYour intentions is your view of the future, near of far, following your wishes. You can expose or hide it, depending on the potentiality of acceptance by other(s).

    Your words are a tool to communicate or share your intentions, but can also be used to dissimulate them in formulations that would fit the other's intentions.



    Wow
    Well said
    Just saying