Prohormones vs. testosterone boosters... which is better?

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    Nov 15, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
    Halotest-25 (prohormone, currently legal in US) vs. Rage A-Mass (formerly Rage Aftermath, a testosterone booster)...

    Has anyone here used these? What kind of results did you encounter?

    Both are supposed to be cycled with a follow-on product to reduce estrogen buildup and normalize hormone levels.

    Prohormones are precursors to the full-on hormones and bear some chemical resemblance to steroids. A great many were banned in the 2004-2006 timeframe under one of the various FDA acts George W. Bush signed.

    Test. Boosters seem to be mostly herbal derived compounds that are said to mimic the effect of prohormones/steroids... supposedly, there is little conclusive medical studies supporting their claims.

    Both have about the same price point for a single cycle.



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    Nov 15, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    Herbal boosters are remarketed snake oil.

    Pro-steroids are anabolic steroid analogues that haven't been proven or tested for human use. If you do stumble across one that works you will still have your natural test suppressed not to mention possible sides.

    Since you asked which is more effective I'll get off my soap box and tell you that the pro-steroids will win hands down if you find one that actually works in then human body. This will be a challenge since these companies don't have to create a functioning product to turn a profit. They can toss their efforts into adverting and injecting reviews/posts in bro-science bodybuilding boards/magazines and make money.

    I do wish you luck!



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    Nov 15, 2011 6:19 AM GMT
    This is an all around bad idea.

    The chemistry of the human body should not be mucked around with.

    IF you have a hormone problem, then talk to your doctor. There are safe and effective treatments and hormone replacements, but first you need to know how much you need. Too much is often worse than not enough.

    If you are doing this to improve performance on your workouts, do meth. At least that way you know where you are heading.

    If you want to be healthy, then reduce everything down to what you can eat in your diet with maybe protein supplementation if you are bulking up. Multivitamin, a one a day type fine - we all can use that.

    Creatine, Glutamine and various others of this ilk have been known to cause problems. Both the ones I have named have been associated with kidney issues. They test for high creatine when they suspect that the kidneys are going south. High creatine levels are a 'bad' thing.

    Injected hormone therapies without a prescription do far worse damage than slamming speed, with far less the thrill.

    Most of these other replacements and boosters and crap do in fact help you loose weight... weight in the wallet.

    Having trouble getting the muscle you want? Then look at your workout. Most guys are blowing it by not giving enough time BETWEEN workouts - try 3 days over 2. Many stick with the same tired routine, if you have been doing the same workout exercises for 6 weeks or longer, switch it up, go from mass building to strength building - take a week off too, your muscles and body builds during the period of rest, not in the gym.

    Impatient, then slam meth - it will kill lots of time.

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    Nov 15, 2011 9:21 AM GMT
    He was just looking for an answer. It sounded like he wanted one or the other so I answered his question. Bowyn_Aerrow, your reply has flaws.

    Recreational methamphetamine permanently changes you brain chemistry.
    You even reffer to the "rush" of it, wth? So, to say that is even an option is kinda weird. Not to mention that it's an illegal alternative to what the OP wants.

    Creatine is fine. They test for high CREATININE not creatine. So people who take creatine need to discontinue use to get an accurate test result if they have a suspected kidney disorder. Otherwise they could get a false test result.

    You also think you know what "most guys" do wrong and you are assuming it's this guy's problem even though he has said nothing about his training.
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    Nov 15, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    Meth? LOL.

    No thanks, I'll pass on that idea.

    I know of a few folks who do the test boosters (herbal stuff), but it seems a bit inconclusive.

    The prohormone stuff (Halotest-25 in particular) is what I'd like to compare.

    The obvious trade off with these vs. Scheduled/Controlled steroids is that the latter will work (if taken under a script and under supervision by a physician) while the latter might work - or just be a stab at one's own long term health.

    Just because there is a 98% similarity between a full-on steroid (or even a steroid precursor such as the now banned Haladrol-50) and the Halotest-25 doesn't mean that the 2% that doesn't match won't cause harm.

    I'm just curious to know if anyone has used Halotest-25 (the legally available prohormone) and would be willing to share their thoughts on it.

    For the most part I am skeptical about these sorts of supplements - particularly the ones that get rather creative with their packaging and marketing alá BroScience.
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    Dec 04, 2011 1:32 PM GMT
    Test booster and prohormones are a waste for two reeasons:
    Frist: you body has a feedbaack system that regulates the maximum amount of testosterone produced and avaialable. While this drops as you age, for everyone there is a maximum point you cnanot go past wihtout doing a suprephysiological dose (i.e. injexted at a miligram amont taht is far above what your body would ever produce with the regulation system in place). So you will never push past the maximum amount you body allows, it will simply do a lesser form of what it does with a supraphysiological dose and decrease the amount of testosterone it produces.

    Second: Oral testosterones have to survive first pass metabolism through the liver (injectable teststerone does not) and as such there is a methyl group added to the 17th carbon of the steroid skeleton in the alpha position to protect the alohol (-OH) thrre from premature cleavage in the liver. This in turn streeses the liver and is the reason oral teststoerones (dianabol and co.) cause the water retention, elevated liver enzymes and blood pressure increases they do, but you do not really see with injected testosterones. In short, the pro-testosterones do not have that molecular alteration so very little survives to do anything.

    If you are gong to use over the counter spplements, stick to a good protein supp, creatine (used months at a time but not all year) and glutamine. THe rest is all affect and show pretty much but adds nothing to actual growth or development.

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    Dec 08, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidHalotest-25 (prohormone, currently legal in US) vs. Rage A-Mass (formerly Rage Aftermath, a testosterone booster)...

    Has anyone here used these? What kind of results did you encounter?

    Both are supposed to be cycled with a follow-on product to reduce estrogen buildup and normalize hormone levels.

    Prohormones are precursors to the full-on hormones and bear some chemical resemblance to steroids. A great many were banned in the 2004-2006 timeframe under one of the various FDA acts George W. Bush signed.

    Test. Boosters seem to be mostly herbal derived compounds that are said to mimic the effect of prohormones/steroids... supposedly, there is little conclusive medical studies supporting their claims.

    Both have about the same price point for a single cycle.





    Just up your intake of mono-unsaturated and poly-unsaturated fats. Eat more nuts, peanut butter, etc. Try eating more broccoli too. These things will keep your testosterone levels higher naturally.

    Also make sure you get your 8 hours of sleep. Your body releases growth hormone when you sleep.