new web tracking technologies, Big Brother at work?

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    Nov 15, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    I can just about handle "clearing the cookies." And the average news site has so many trashy flash ads and crap that I do the full-reset on my browsers just about every day.

    But I've noticed more and more clearly-targeted banner ads that are getting served up every day, despite my efforts to sanitize the laptop. Two examples: 1) A few days ago, I shopped around for a roomba. (Yeah, the price has doubled again since last time I decided I can't afford one.) Now I get a banner add for iRobot products on every fourth or fifth web page. 2) Yesterday, I had to make some service changes with the phone company over the phone. No computers involved. Now I'm getting banner ads from the phone company (who is also my ISP - however the order involved a different property entirely) on every third or fourth web page.

    So... this seems to indicate that there's some database out there that is keeping track of web site usage, non-internet activities, and IP addresses. The non-internet stuff must be linked by name? If random advertisers can access this, then I suppose pretty much anybody can. Makes me wonder just how much is in these databases.

    Or is there some other kind of spyware that I'm not getting with the normal "clear cookies" routines? But that wouldn't explain the phone company ads...
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    Nov 15, 2011 8:35 PM GMT
    Javascript is also used to serve ads. Might want to install the NoScript extension for firefox.
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    Nov 16, 2011 6:24 PM GMT
    And are these scripts stored on my computer somewhere? I thought they were just a feature of toxic web pages and went away when the page was dismissed. This stuff is surviving browser resets and computer shut-downs.

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    Nov 16, 2011 6:37 PM GMT
    Facebook users and non-users who visit certain Facebook pages have all of their web history recorded in a database.

    Fact.
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    Nov 16, 2011 6:40 PM GMT
    Trollileo said
    ThePenIsMyTier saidFacebook users and non-users who visit certain Facebook pages have all of their web history recorded in a database.

    Fact.
    Yeah, we're screwed. Google does the same thing, though.



    Yup, no two people get the same Google results anymore, it varies based on your assumed preferences.
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    Try updating your antivirus definitions and your anti-malware settings (Windows Defender, etc. ) and run a full scan to see if that turns up anything.
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier said
    Trollileo said
    ThePenIsMyTier saidFacebook users and non-users who visit certain Facebook pages have all of their web history recorded in a database.

    Fact.
    Yeah, we're screwed. Google does the same thing, though.



    Yup, no two people get the same Google results anymore, it varies based on your assumed preferences.


    This is why I don't Facebook or use Google.

    Bing is a little less intrusive that way.
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:18 PM GMT
    Don't put a single dollar into the purchase of a Roomba!
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:24 PM GMT
    THANK GOD I don't facebook.
    I feel really creeped out by that lol.
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
    Well, these current blitzes are definitely based on IP-address. I'm getting the same banners on every computer on the network.

    What's spooky to me is that this is the first time I've noticed an action IRL that triggered internet ads.

    I've never really thought about it, but for the last year or so, my internet e-commerce software has been including the IP addresses of all of my internet customers in the invoice data. WTF do I want that for? But presumably, any merchant could be selling this data. Or more likely, the shopping cart provider is already doing so.
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
    running11 saidTHANK GOD I don't facebook.
    I feel really creeped out by that lol.


    As well you should be.

    The Zuckerbergs are committed to ending online anonymity and privacy, and selling as many ad clicks as they can.

    ???

    PROFIT.
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    Nov 16, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    ya dude keywords are tracked, ip addresses too.
    new technology actually allows companies to geo-target their ads precisely to over 200,000 neighbourhoods across the US using current and past buyer behaviour data. That includes your purchases on mastercard, visa, club cards, air miles/other frequent flyer cards, etc. It also uses census data. It is all tracked and can now be used to target ads that you're more likely to click on.
  • Anto

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    Nov 17, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    HTML5 offers other ways of storing information on a person's computer than just cookies too.
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    Nov 17, 2011 1:10 AM GMT
    Who cares? Wouldn't you rather be served ads that are relevant?

    If you're using google chrome and you're logged in to your google account, everything you search is tracked. You can access it in your settings too (your history). Dont go getting all conspiracy theory...(unless you have something to hide). Your online activities are boring at best for any one individual to care about. "gay porn", "what is chartreuse?", "MDMA", "superfluous definition", "*your name*", "*trending news topic*", "brittney rmx aude .mp3 zippy"...odds are, unless you're fucking crazy, you're just like everyone else....borrrrring.

    Wait till you hear about the "find my friends" app.
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    Nov 17, 2011 2:21 AM GMT
    jekyll2hyde saidWho cares? Wouldn't you rather be served ads that are relevant?

    If you're using google chrome and you're logged in to your google account, everything you search is tracked. You can access it in your settings too (your history). Dont go getting all conspiracy theory...(unless you have something to hide). Your online activities are boring at best for any one individual to care about. "gay porn", "what is chartreuse?", "MDMA", "superfluous definition", "*your name*", "*trending news topic*", "brittney rmx aude .mp3 zippy"...odds are, unless you're fucking crazy, you're just like everyone else....borrrrring.

    Wait till you hear about the "find my friends" app.


    Most people don't like the idea or sensation of knowing they are open to being tracked or stalked. Maybe it's related to our evolutionary past.
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    Nov 17, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    Oh yeah.. forgot to mention Flash cookies (flookies). Not really cookies, but little bits of data that Flash saves. Often times, it's used to save site preferences. But it's also as a tracking mechanism for advertisers.

    There's a site/link that you can visit, and it will display the information that ad networks have collected from you. It was fairly accurate. It guessed my age range and marital status, but my income was way off. And of course they offer a way to opt-out. But I doubt that really does anything. I wish I bookmarked the link.
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    Nov 17, 2011 4:06 AM GMT
    xrichx saidOh yeah.. forgot to mention Flash cookies (flookies). Not really cookies, but little bits of data that Flash saves. Often times, it's used to save site preferences. But it's also as a tracking mechanism for advertisers.

    There's a site/link that you can visit, and it will display the information that ad networks have collected from you. It was fairly accurate. It guessed my age range and marital status, but my income was way off. And of course they offer a way to opt-out. But I doubt that really does anything. I wish I bookmarked the link.


    spokeo.com?
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    Nov 17, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    jekyll2hyde saidWho cares? Wouldn't you rather be served ads that are relevant?

    If you're using google chrome and you're logged in to your google account, everything you search is tracked. You can access it in your settings too (your history). Dont go getting all conspiracy theory...(unless you have something to hide). Your online activities are boring at best for any one individual to care about. "gay porn", "what is chartreuse?", "MDMA", "superfluous definition", "*your name*", "*trending news topic*", "brittney rmx aude .mp3 zippy"...odds are, unless you're fucking crazy, you're just like everyone else....borrrrring.

    Wait till you hear about the "find my friends" app.


    "Serving Ads" is not what I'm concerned about.
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    Nov 17, 2011 4:27 AM GMT
    creature said
    spokeo.com?

    No. It was from one of the major advertising networks, other than Google. It's the anonymous/unidentifiable data they collect when you visit various websites. Like when you visit their page, it displays something like..

    - Age range
    - Male/female
    - Annual income
    - Topics that interest you, based on the sites you visit the most
    - I don't remember if it guessed ethnicity