The #1 reason why you MUST vote Democrat in November- especially if your favored candidate does NOT win the nomination.

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    Jun 02, 2008 3:38 AM GMT
    The longer this thing goes on, the number of Clinton supporters who say that they will not support Obama in November grows exponentially. They will either defect to McCain, a third party, or not vote at all. The same can be said on the side of Obama. Regardless of your preference and however this may play out, I have three words for you sore losers:

    Supreme Court Justices

    The courts have swung dangerously to the right in the Bush years. Justices Stevens and Ginsburg are no spring chickens (87 and 75 respectively) and hinting at retirement. If you remember your 9th grad civics, the president appoints the members to the Supreme Court. It's safe to say anyone selected by Clinton/Obama would be less harmful to the country and constitution than a person chosen by McCain. The court of the next president will shape the law and our understanding of the constitution for the next 20 years.

    Suck it up. Stop being prideful. Vote Democrat.
  • mcwclewis

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    Jun 02, 2008 4:07 AM GMT
    ? I almost thought this was going to be a dumb post... I wont lie.


    But no, you're absolutely right. And I will do just that.
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    Jun 02, 2008 4:12 AM GMT
    Right now, threatening not to vote for the other candidate if nominated could also be a scare tactic. If the supporters say they have no problem voting for the other candidate, then there is less contraversy over nominating the other candidate and your candidate is robbed of power at the convention.

    I suspect that most of either candidates' supporters will vote for whomever is nominated, especially when the losing candidate urges them to.
  • mcwclewis

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    Jun 02, 2008 4:16 AM GMT
    CASLON4000!!!! OMG HES UPGRADED! icon_eek.gif
  • mcwclewis

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    Jun 02, 2008 4:17 AM GMT
    Anyways...



    I think that both will happen. I just hope that enough people swallow their pride and accept the other candidate to make a difference.
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    Jun 02, 2008 5:16 AM GMT
    I always vote for the person who is stronger and better for the country as a whole.
    I'm an American first.


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    Jun 02, 2008 5:24 AM GMT
    crispro saidI always vote for the person who is stronger and better for the country as a whole.
    I'm an American first.




    I agree with you, but ....you mean this isn't a "popularity contest" like in High School? Since when has anyone ever been so altruist as to do what is right for the nation, even if it isn't always in their own self interest too? icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 02, 2008 6:06 AM GMT
    I'll vote third party. Just like last time.

    Not that little blue states matter much...
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    Jun 02, 2008 6:26 AM GMT
    webby saidThe longer this thing goes on, the number of Clinton supporters who say that they will not support Obama in November grows exponentially. They will either defect to McCain, a third party, or not vote at all. The same can be said on the side of Obama. Regardless of your preference and however this may play out, I have three words for you sore losers:

    Supreme Court Justices

    The courts have swung dangerously to the right in the Bush years. Justices Stevens and Ginsburg are no spring chickens (87 and 75 respectively) and hinting at retirement. If you remember your 9th grad civics, the president appoints the members to the Supreme Court. It's safe to say anyone selected by Clinton/Obama would be less harmful to the country and constitution than a person chosen by McCain. The court of the next president will shape the law and our understanding of the constitution for the next 20 years.

    Suck it up. Stop being prideful. Vote Democrat.



    This is the entire reason I'm voting for John McCain. I happen to like Justices who interpret the Constitution for what it says; not what they want it to say. That is what elected legislators are for.
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    Jun 02, 2008 6:32 AM GMT
    stonecoldfoxboy saidThis is the entire reason I'm voting for John McCain. I happen to like Justices who interpret the Constitution for what it says; not what they want it to say. That is what elected legislators are for.


    We then have fundamentally different understandings of the Constitution. Bring on the abortion ban's and institutionalized discrimination!!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jun 02, 2008 6:33 AM GMT
    Me too, Stonecold...in my opinion, and ESPECIALLY if Obama gets the nomination, there really is no other choice other than McCain. I'm just praying that he picks a solid running mate for V.P. If Obama doesn't pick Hillary, I happen to think McCain will win in a landslide. That being said, I still think Hillary & Bill probably have a rabbit armed and ready to pull out of their hat....and when/if that happens, I have a feeling all HELL is gonna break loose.
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    Jun 02, 2008 6:44 AM GMT
    I guess this topic is directed at anyone who identifies themselves as progressive.. if you were planning on voting mccain regardless of the the outcome of the democratic primary, i don't get your jaded cynicism and/or hegemonic, medieval world view, but you are welcome to your opinion, and I understand at this point there is no changing some people.
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    Jun 02, 2008 6:44 AM GMT
    webby saidThe longer this thing goes on, the number of Clinton supporters who say that they will not support Obama in November grows exponentially. They will either defect to McCain, a third party, or not vote at all. The same can be said on the side of Obama. Regardless of your preference and however this may play out, I have three words for you sore losers:

    Supreme Court Justices

    The courts have swung dangerously to the right in the Bush years. Justices Stevens and Ginsburg are no spring chickens (87 and 75 respectively) and hinting at retirement. If you remember your 9th grad civics, the president appoints the members to the Supreme Court. It's safe to say anyone selected by Clinton/Obama would be less harmful to the country and constitution than a person chosen by McCain. The court of the next president will shape the law and our understanding of the constitution for the next 20 years.

    Suck it up. Stop being prideful. Vote Democrat.


    Dear Webby,

    "Well said"! My boyfriend and I were going through this site together and read your forum post. I read your post and he stated the previous quote. And, well, I quite agree. I am one of those Hillary supporters and I will support Obama even though I have not enjoyed this process as of late for obvious reasons.

    Take Care and Thanks for the level head,

    Bri and Del
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    Jun 02, 2008 7:00 AM GMT
    webby saidI guess this topic is directed at anyone who identifies themselves as progressive.. if you were planning on voting mccain regardless of the the outcome of the democratic primary, i don't get your jaded cynicism and/or hegemonic, medieval world view, but you are welcome to your opinion, and I understand at this point there is no changing some people.


    It is customary, before stating something contemptuous, insulting, and rude about another, while in the same sentence, saying "you are welcome to your opinion" (in an effort to appear open-minded), to preface your comments with the phrase "With all due respect, ..." That way, it "excuses" the disrespectful tone you are about to take. icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jun 02, 2008 7:07 AM GMT


    Once again, I am amazed that there still are blind lambs amongst us . . . so sad.
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    Jun 02, 2008 7:08 AM GMT
    stonecoldfoxboy saidit is customary, before stating something contemptuous, insulting, and rude about another, while in the same sentence, saying "you are welcome to your opinion" (in an effort to appear open-minded), to preface your comments with the phrase "With all due respect, ..." That way, it "excuses" the disrespectful tone you are about to take. icon_rolleyes.gif

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    That would be the case if I were a politician. But these mad RealJock forums are no holds barred!!! icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 02, 2008 7:09 AM GMT
    webby saidIt's safe to say anyone selected by Clinton/Obama would be less harmful to the country and constitution than a person chosen by McCain.


    I challenge your statement.
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    Jun 02, 2008 7:12 AM GMT
    Pretty random that John McCain banner ads on this very topic of judges keeps appearing in this particular thread...
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    Jun 02, 2008 7:15 AM GMT
    stonecoldfoxboy saidPretty random that John McCain banner ads on this very topic of judges keeps appearing in this particular thread...


    Conspiracy!

    /don tin foil hat
  • GQjock

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    Jun 02, 2008 10:12 AM GMT
    Given the State of affairs we find ourselves in...

    *The treasonous lying to to get us into Iraq

    *Having lived through the horror that was Katrina

    *The stamping of the Constitution with Bush's signing statements and not complying with legitimate supeonas

    *The mishandling of the economy

    *The healthcare crisis

    ALL OF THIS having the rubberstamp approval and BLOCKING of any sort of control from the democrats in congress BY the republicans in congress

    and this is not meant to be sarcastic
    it's meant to be as clear and straightforward as possible

    You gotta be some sort of DUMB to vote for McSame

    You don't stop bangin' your head against a wall by thinking that the wall might eventually give way
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    Jun 02, 2008 1:33 PM GMT
    You take too much for granted. Vote Republican, so you will still have a country in the next 20 years.

    McCain 08

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    Jun 02, 2008 1:45 PM GMT
    as an outsider i am stunned that young gay men would even consider voting for more of the same. america (and the uk too before you shout me down) needs to rebuild it's standing in the world and it's not going to happen under mccain.


    and how can you be gay and vote republican? frightening!
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    Jun 02, 2008 1:57 PM GMT
    Dear Dakuk, In the UK you people surrendered sovereignty to muslim enclaves, you people are terrified to criticize islam for fear of reprisals.
    The French are changing their cultural norms to accomodate islam and muslims have burned Paris and Lyon.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080602/ap_on_re_as/pakistan

    Islamic government murders us queers and anyone from an enlightened western culture. Only a fool would surrender to them.

    That's why I support John McCain.







  • darkeyedresol...

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    Jun 02, 2008 1:59 PM GMT
    Not to be rude, but supreme court justice is just one facet of voting and will not be final decision between the two.

    You have a war, economic issues, energy issues, healthcare issues...its actually rather low on my list.

    McCain would have get through nominees that would be approved by a very Democratic senate. He couldn't get fringe justices passed anyway, and he has done compromises in the senate before over these nominees.

    Bill Clinton had to get his nominees through a Republican senate and did it by selecting moderates that got there support. I would not be surprised if McCain did the same thing.
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    Jun 02, 2008 3:42 PM GMT
    John43620 saidDear Dakuk, In the UK you people surrendered sovereignty to muslim enclaves, you people are terrified to criticize islam for fear of reprisals.


    Err...how have we done this exactly?