What are your thoughts on dirty bulking?

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    Nov 16, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    I've been trying to gain weight by eating the right foods and by getting 3000+ calories, but it doesn't seem to be working. I'm seeing strength and size gains, but I haven't gained a pound (don't even ask me how that's possible because I have no idea.) I'm thinking about trying a dirty bulk and just eating as much as possible to gain weight and then cutting after I put on a decent amount of muscle. Have any of you guys done this?
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    Nov 16, 2011 4:08 AM GMT
    Try it and see if it works for you. But from my observations, most guys that bulk/cut either:
    - Stay bulky (fat) because they can't lose the weight, or
    - They cut too much and end up right back where they started.

    You say that you're "seeing" size gains but your weight is the same? If yes, then what's to worry about? My overall body weight has stayed more or less the same in the past several years. But during that time, I dropped some fat and gained some muscle mass. Unless you're competing in some sport with weight categories, you shouldn't use the scale as an indicator of progress.

    I'm thinking maybe you should evaluate your workout routine/exercises. Gaining muscle mass isn't always about shoveling down piles of food. Overtraining or not performing the exercises properly, can inhibit your progress.
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    Nov 16, 2011 4:37 AM GMT
    I have. It's easier to gain muscle when adding more than 250cal every week. I gain more muscle from it.. also get fat. There's also a better chance of loosing muscle when cutting because it takes longer. More chances to screw it up. It's a tough call. I've bulked up to wearing a 36 in jeans before. It took me over 6 months to go back down to a 31. That was an all natural cut. I lost some, but not all of my gains. I also found it hard on my self esteem gaining that much fat in a short amount of time.
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    Nov 16, 2011 4:59 AM GMT
    xrichx saidTry it and see if it works for you. But from my observations, most guys that bulk/cut either:
    - Stay bulky (fat) because they can't lose the weight, or
    - They cut too much and end up right back where they started.



    I've seen the same. Some guys I've never seen cut down.. Seen some cut too fast and loose size. Not all of them. I think it depends on how dedicated and patient they are with cutting. Most of my losses were because of injurys and colds.. or exams when i was in school.
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    Nov 16, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    xrichx saidTry it and see if it works for you. But from my observations, most guys that bulk/cut either:
    - Stay bulky (fat) because they can't lose the weight, or
    - They cut too much and end up right back where they started.

    You say that you're "seeing" size gains but your weight is the same? If yes, then what's to worry about? My overall body weight has stayed more or less the same in the past several years. But during that time, I dropped some fat and gained some muscle mass. Unless you're competing in some sport with weight categories, you shouldn't use the scale as an indicator of progress.

    I'm thinking maybe you should evaluate your workout routine/exercises. Gaining muscle mass isn't always about shoveling down piles of food. Overtraining or not performing the exercises properly, can inhibit your progress.

    Staying fat isn't going to be a problem for me. I noticed that I often have to force myself to eat to gain weight so it would definitely be easier for me to lose than it would be for me to gain. Cutting too much might be an issue for me, but I'm going to try to basically get the same amount of cals I was getting when I was bulking while reducing my carb intake. I'm also planning on taking creatine only when cutting so hopefully I won't lose that much strength. As for my workout routine, I think it's decent and I definitely don't think I'm overtraining. I make every workout intense and I'll only do about 9 sets a week for each muscle group with the exception of big muscle groups like back (I'll do about 12 for back).
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    Nov 16, 2011 1:48 PM GMT
    Count urself lucky, I'm bulking right now and have gained 10 lbs, but gained some fat for sure.

    In fact yesterday my mom told me I was starting to get a Buddha belly and was that.part of my diet (she knows how strict I am w healthy foods.)

    And I'm mostly.clean bulking too... Wtf?


    Anyway if ur getting stronger, I wouldn't worry.