Millionaires ask Congress "RAISE MY TAXES"

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    Nov 17, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/11/16/news/economy/tax_millionaires/index.htm

    And still the GOP does nothing. They won't listen to the people, they won't listen to the millionaires who know what is right and fair in this time.

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    Nov 17, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    Oops - beyond the fact these millionaires, most of whom inherited the money, were chosen from the rosters of large contributors to the Democrats, when asked whether or not they would willingly donate their "fair" share to the US Treasury, they universally said no.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/17/patriotic-millionaires-demand-higher-taxes-but-unwilling-to-pay-up-video/

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    Nov 17, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAllow me to educate you. It's a con.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"



    Incorrect. They are asking for economic justice because it is in the best interest of the country.
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    Nov 17, 2011 7:22 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAllow me to educate you. It's a con.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"


    I don't understand why some of these guys are so worried about this. No one has threatened to stop their welfare checks.
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:06 PM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidAllow me to educate you. It's a con.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"


    I don't understand why some of these guys are so worried about this. No one has threatened to stop their welfare checks.

    I dont understand why you are so worried about taxes being raised on the 1%. Greed perhaps?
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    socalfitness said
    southbeach1500 saidAllow me to educate you. It's a con.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"


    I don't understand why some of these guys are so worried about this. No one has threatened to stop their welfare checks.

    I dont understand why you are so worried about taxes being raised on the 1%. Greed perhaps?


    I don't understand why you focused on raising other people's taxes. Envy perhaps?
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:20 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    catfish5 said
    socalfitness said
    southbeach1500 saidAllow me to educate you. It's a con.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"


    I don't understand why some of these guys are so worried about this. No one has threatened to stop their welfare checks.

    I dont understand why you are so worried about taxes being raised on the 1%. Greed perhaps?


    I don't understand why you focused on raising other people's taxes. Envy perhaps?


    Nope. Just a matter of people giving back to the nation that made their wealth possible so we can maintain a healthy, growing economy.
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    catfish5 said
    socalfitness said
    southbeach1500 saidAllow me to educate you. It's a con.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"


    I don't understand why some of these guys are so worried about this. No one has threatened to stop their welfare checks.

    I dont understand why you are so worried about taxes being raised on the 1%. Greed perhaps?


    I don't understand why you focused on raising other people's taxes. Envy perhaps?


    Nope. Just a matter of people giving back to the nation that made their wealth possible so we can maintain a healthy, growing economy.


    +1 if the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    Nope. Just a matter of people giving back to the nation that made their wealth possible so we can maintain a healthy, growing economy.



    There is no evidence whatsoever that higher taxes = a healthy, growing economy.

    Now, back to the topic.

    Everyone is permitted to pay as much over and above their mandatory tax bill to the U.S. Treasury as they wish.

    What these con artists are asking for is:

    "RAISE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES"


    Eh...so if everyone was able to get decent healthcare we wouldn't be better off as a nation?
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    Nov 17, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    If the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?
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    Nov 17, 2011 10:20 PM GMT
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    Eh...so if everyone was able to get decent healthcare we wouldn't be better off as a nation?




    Eh... everyone - including people with no money or health insurance (you) - has been able to get "decent healthcare" for decades.


    What stunning bullshit. We have the highest infant mortality rate in the Western world and have worse healthcare outcomes despite paying far more for healthcare as a nation.
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    Nov 17, 2011 10:20 PM GMT
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    catfish5 saidIf the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?


    Who is the 1%? People who are the top 1% of earners? Or the top 1% of wealth?


    Either. Both. "Answer the question, Claire!"
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    Nov 17, 2011 10:37 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Eh...so if everyone was able to get decent healthcare we wouldn't be better off as a nation?




    Eh... everyone - including people with no money or health insurance (you) - has been able to get "decent healthcare" for decades.



    This is very true. The ER is required to take in everybody. No one gets turned away from health care.
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    Nov 17, 2011 10:40 PM GMT
    catfish5 saidIf the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?


    They will find a way to cut costs so it wont effect them, it will just effect the 99%. Here are some things they will do to cover the extra tax.

    1. Pass the extra cost to the consumer.
    2. Outsource jobs
    3. Dont hire any new workers.
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    Nov 17, 2011 11:09 PM GMT
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    catfish5 saidIf the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?


    They will find a way to cut costs so it wont effect them, it will just effect the 99%. Here are some things they will do to cover the extra tax.

    1. Pass the extra cost to the consumer.
    2. Outsource jobs
    3. Dont hire any new workers.


    How is this any different than what happened with the Bush Tax Cuts in place?
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    Nov 17, 2011 11:11 PM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    southbeach1500 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Eh...so if everyone was able to get decent healthcare we wouldn't be better off as a nation?




    Eh... everyone - including people with no money or health insurance (you) - has been able to get "decent healthcare" for decades.



    This is very true. The ER is required to take in everybody. No one gets turned away from health care.


    Incorrect. ER provide emergency care not routine care.
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    Nov 18, 2011 12:47 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
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    catfish5 saidIf the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?


    Who is the 1%? People who are the top 1% of earners? Or the top 1% of wealth?


    Either. Both. "Answer the question, Claire!"


    Those are two different things. And it's clear that you - like the "Occupy" movement - don't have a clue when you can't even define what you mean by "the 1%."



    They're not the same thing in a meaningful way. The professional class who are in the top 1% of income earners have a 5% unemployment rate versus 9% plus for working class and poor people. And the top 1% in terms of net work don't need to worry about earning an income.
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    Nov 18, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    catfish5 saidIf the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?


    They will find a way to cut costs so it wont effect them, it will just effect the 99%. Here are some things they will do to cover the extra tax.

    1. Pass the extra cost to the consumer.
    2. Outsource jobs
    3. Dont hire any new workers.


    How is this any different than what happened with the Bush Tax Cuts in place?
    I would definitely like to hear the answer to this question from an 'esteemed' member of the right side of the isle here on RJ.
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    Nov 18, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
    "If the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?"


    we're waiting.....

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    catfish5 saidIf the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?


    They will find a way to cut costs so it wont effect them, it will just effect the 99%. Here are some things they will do to cover the extra tax.

    1. Pass the extra cost to the consumer.
    2. Outsource jobs
    3. Dont hire any new workers.


    How is this any different than what happened with the Bush Tax Cuts in place?


    The Bush tax cuts weren't that much. The tax rates are still too high and businesses have to make a profit. Taxes need to be cut and made permanent. Corporations are sitting on piles of cash right now, but they aren't going to hire in this country with Obama threatening new taxes everyday. You would have to be a complete idiot to hire more workers right now.
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    catfish5 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    southbeach1500 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Eh...so if everyone was able to get decent healthcare we wouldn't be better off as a nation?




    Eh... everyone - including people with no money or health insurance (you) - has been able to get "decent healthcare" for decades.



    This is very true. The ER is required to take in everybody. No one gets turned away from health care.


    Incorrect. ER provide emergency care not routine care.


    Yes, but they are required by law to take in sick people. When liberals run around saying that sick people are denied health care they are dead wrong. The ER is required by law to take in sick people.
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    Nov 18, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
    The hospitals pass the costs on to everyone else. That's why an aspirin in the hospital can cost you $50.
    Sending everyone to the emergency room is not a solution.
    When you have an actual emergency, you can't get treatment for hours.
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    Nov 18, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
    http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2010/07/26/Average-US-ER-wait-time-4-plus-hours/UPI-76891280122494/
    WASHINGTON, July 26 (UPI) -- The recession, high unemployment and loss of health insurance have resulted in longer wait times in U.S. hospital emergency rooms, researchers say.

    Dr. Angela Gardner, president of the American College of Emergency Physicians, who assessed the Press Ganey's Pulse Report 2010, says the report reveals the average length of stay in a U.S. emergency department increased to 4 hours, 7 minutes.

    "The report finds pockets of good news, such as shorter times overall in Nevada, but nobody can possibly call a national average of more than 4 hours in the ER something to cheer about," Gardner said in a statement.


    The fact that you get triaged quicker doesn't mean you actually get treated quicker. You just stay in the ER longer.
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    Nov 18, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidThe hospitals pass the costs on to everyone else. That's why an aspirin in the hospital can cost you $50.
    Sending everyone to the emergency room is not a solution.
    When you have an actual emergency, you can't get treatment for hours.


    Thank you. Ridiculousness.
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    Nov 18, 2011 4:00 AM GMT
    Upper_Cdn said"If the 1% experience an increase in taxes, will they have trouble putting food on the table or meeting their basic needs?"


    we're waiting.....



    Ah - so if they can afford it, we should take it from them? Are you so morally corrupt? Considering the data suggests that even the poorest in the Western World has such things as cell phones, stereos and tv's, your hyperbole is more than a little ridiculous.