A Tea Party Budget?

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    Nov 17, 2011 7:28 PM GMT
    Pretty wonkish with a lot of detail... not for the casual reader -

    http://www.freedomworks.org/the-tea-party-budget


    Instead, we offer a bold — but, we believe, feasible — plan that:

    * “Cuts, caps, and balances” federal spending.

    * Balances the budget in four years, and keeps it balanced, without tax hikes.

    * Closes an historically large budget gap, equal to almost one-tenth of our economy.

    * Reduces federal spending by $9.7 trillion over the next 10 years, as opposed to the President’splan to increase spending by $2.3 trillion.

    * Shrinks the federal government from 24 percent of GDP — a level exceed only in World War II —to about 17.5 percent, in line with the postwar norm.

    * Stops the growth of the debt, and begins paying it down, with a goal of eliminating it within thisgeneration.

    To achieve these goals, our plan, among other things:

    * Repeals ObamaCare in toto.

    * Eliminates four Cabinet agencies — Energy, Education, Commerce, and HUD — and reduces orprivatizes many others, including EPA, TSA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.

    * Ends farm subsidies, student loans, and foreign aid to countries that don’t support us — luxuries we can no longer afford.

    * Saves Social Security and greatly improves future benefits by shifting ownership and control fromgovernment to individuals, through new SMART Accounts.

    * Gives Medicare seniors the right to opt into the Congressional health care plan.

    * Suspends pension contributions and COLAs for Members of Congress, whenever the budget is indeficit.
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    Nov 17, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    Thanks for this, I was due for a good laugh!

    The idea that we are going to fix this by cutting important programs like student loans, education, the EPA, destroying medicare is just hilarious.
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    Nov 17, 2011 7:46 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidPretty wonkish with a lot of detail... not for the casual reader -

    http://www.freedomworks.org/the-tea-party-budget


    Instead, we offer a bold — but, we believe, feasible — plan that:

    * “Cuts, caps, and balances” federal spending.

    * Balances the budget in four years, and keeps it balanced, without tax hikes.

    * Closes an historically large budget gap, equal to almost one-tenth of our economy.

    * Reduces federal spending by $9.7 trillion over the next 10 years, as opposed to the President’splan to increase spending by $2.3 trillion.

    * Shrinks the federal government from 24 percent of GDP — a level exceed only in World War II —to about 17.5 percent, in line with the postwar norm.

    * Stops the growth of the debt, and begins paying it down, with a goal of eliminating it within thisgeneration.

    To achieve these goals, our plan, among other things:

    * Repeals ObamaCare in toto.

    * Eliminates four Cabinet agencies — Energy, Education, Commerce, and HUD — and reduces orprivatizes many others, including EPA, TSA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.

    * Ends farm subsidies, student loans, and foreign aid to countries that don’t support us — luxuries we can no longer afford.

    * Saves Social Security and greatly improves future benefits by shifting ownership and control fromgovernment to individuals, through new SMART Accounts.

    * Gives Medicare seniors the right to opt into the Congressional health care plan.

    * Suspends pension contributions and COLAs for Members of Congress, whenever the budget is indeficit.



    Your on the right track. The only thing I would like to see is more cutting in spending and some tax cuts. I would like to see the Department of Interior gone.

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    Nov 17, 2011 7:56 PM GMT
    Yea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidYea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?


    What's stupid is if you believe that the US Federal government is the appropriate level for a lot of these issues. Accountability tends to be better achieved at local levels. Beyond accountability to consumers, there's torts. Incidentally, as a general rule of thumb, pollution falls and has fallen consistently because by definition, pollution is the production of an unwanted byproduct.
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    Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca saidYea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?


    What's stupid is if you believe that the US Federal government is the appropriate level for a lot of these issues. Accountability tends to be better achieved at local levels. Beyond accountability to consumers, there's torts. Incidentally, as a general rule of thumb, pollution falls and has fallen consistently because by definition, pollution is the production of an unwanted byproduct.


    wha..i...oh what the fuck, are you shitting me right now? Pollution doesn't just "fall", once shit is done, it's done. Look I get it, you only understand money and think that protecting profits is all that matters, it's sad however that you can't realize your way of think is wrong. Money is a construct of man, we can live without it, what we CAN'T live without is a clean environment.

    [url]http://www.cleanwateraction.org/files/publications/national/Water%20of%20the%20US%20leg1111_04.pdf[/url]

    http://www.cleanwateraction.org/pa

    http://ecowatch.org/a/193922

    http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/guidance/wetlands/CWAwaters.cfm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-fleischli/clean-water-under-attack-_b_1086775.html
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    Nov 17, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
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    Nov 18, 2011 6:40 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidYea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?


    What's stupid is if you believe that the US Federal government is the appropriate level for a lot of these issues. Accountability tends to be better achieved at local levels. Beyond accountability to consumers, there's torts. Incidentally, as a general rule of thumb, pollution falls and has fallen consistently because by definition, pollution is the production of an unwanted byproduct.


    wha..i...oh what the fuck, are you shitting me right now? Pollution doesn't just "fall", once shit is done, it's done. Look I get it, you only understand money and think that protecting profits is all that matters, it's sad however that you can't realize your way of think is wrong. Money is a construct of man, we can live without it, what we CAN'T live without is a clean environment.

    [url]http://www.cleanwateraction.org/files/publications/national/Water%20of%20the%20US%20leg1111_04.pdf[/url]

    http://www.cleanwateraction.org/pa

    http://ecowatch.org/a/193922

    http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/guidance/wetlands/CWAwaters.cfm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-fleischli/clean-water-under-attack-_b_1086775.html


    Look at any long term pollution trends. They have consistently fallen.
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    Nov 18, 2011 6:54 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidYea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?


    What's stupid is if you believe that the US Federal government is the appropriate level for a lot of these issues. Accountability tends to be better achieved at local levels. Beyond accountability to consumers, there's torts. Incidentally, as a general rule of thumb, pollution falls and has fallen consistently because by definition, pollution is the production of an unwanted byproduct.


    wha..i...oh what the fuck, are you shitting me right now? Pollution doesn't just "fall", once shit is done, it's done. Look I get it, you only understand money and think that protecting profits is all that matters, it's sad however that you can't realize your way of think is wrong. Money is a construct of man, we can live without it, what we CAN'T live without is a clean environment.

    [url]http://www.cleanwateraction.org/files/publications/national/Water%20of%20the%20US%20leg1111_04.pdf[/url]

    http://www.cleanwateraction.org/pa

    http://ecowatch.org/a/193922

    http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/guidance/wetlands/CWAwaters.cfm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-fleischli/clean-water-under-attack-_b_1086775.html


    Look at any long term pollution trends. They have consistently fallen.

    Yea....no
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    Nov 18, 2011 7:00 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidYea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?


    What's stupid is if you believe that the US Federal government is the appropriate level for a lot of these issues. Accountability tends to be better achieved at local levels. Beyond accountability to consumers, there's torts. Incidentally, as a general rule of thumb, pollution falls and has fallen consistently because by definition, pollution is the production of an unwanted byproduct.


    wha..i...oh what the fuck, are you shitting me right now? Pollution doesn't just "fall", once shit is done, it's done. Look I get it, you only understand money and think that protecting profits is all that matters, it's sad however that you can't realize your way of think is wrong. Money is a construct of man, we can live without it, what we CAN'T live without is a clean environment.

    [url]http://www.cleanwateraction.org/files/publications/national/Water%20of%20the%20US%20leg1111_04.pdf[/url]

    http://www.cleanwateraction.org/pa

    http://ecowatch.org/a/193922

    http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/guidance/wetlands/CWAwaters.cfm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-fleischli/clean-water-under-attack-_b_1086775.html


    Look at any long term pollution trends. They have consistently fallen.

    Yea....no
    bullshit.gif


    Wrong again. http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/v26n2-4.pdf - references EPA stats. You can however feel free to dig up stats yourself to verify. I'm not saying that there isn't work to be done but the reality is that pollution consistently falls because it's by definition a creation of an unwanted byproduct and an inefficient use of resources - so businesses seek to minimize it.
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    Nov 18, 2011 7:05 AM GMT
    Typically I'd say the bulk of the budget has to be left for doilies...

    For an intimate party (4 guests, plus one host), I would plan for $28-50 of pastries... $15-20 for different Teas... $35-65 for fine china rentals if you don't own any... $800-2,000 for the room rental and at LEAST $5,000 for doilies.

    I've always said, "it's not a proper Tea Party unless everyone is wearing doilies and only doilies". Edible doilies optional.
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    Nov 18, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidTypically I'd say the bulk of the budget has to be left for doilies...

    For an intimate party (4 guests, plus one host), I would plan for $28-50 of pastries... $15-20 for different Teas... $35-65 for fine china rentals if you don't own any... $800-2,000 for the room rental and at LEAST $5,000 for doilies.

    I've always said, "it's not a proper Tea Party unless everyone is wearing doilies and only doilies". Edible doilies optional.


    Psh, who are you having this Tea Party with, your Grandma? You forgot the most important part. THE GRUB

    $500 for a selection of organic teas (Black, Green, Roiboos and herbal tisane blends)

    $100 for organic freshly squeezed lemonade served with sticks of sugar cane

    $300 for Fair Trade organic coffee, French roast

    $100 for organic creamer from a local dairy

    $100 for cucumber sandwiches made with multigrain bread and spicy sriracha aioli
    $250 for the gourmet cupcake selection (Bacon chocolate, Mango Chili, Vanilla Bean, Salty Caramel)
    $500 for various cold cuts and cheese plates
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    Nov 20, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    riddler78 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca saidYea, lets destroy the environment and make sure our population is as stupid as the rest of the world thinks we are! Honestly, why do you people blow your loads at the idea of living in a toxic dump for a country? Do you know whats being dumped into the water on a regular basis?


    What's stupid is if you believe that the US Federal government is the appropriate level for a lot of these issues. Accountability tends to be better achieved at local levels. Beyond accountability to consumers, there's torts. Incidentally, as a general rule of thumb, pollution falls and has fallen consistently because by definition, pollution is the production of an unwanted byproduct.


    wha..i...oh what the fuck, are you shitting me right now? Pollution doesn't just "fall", once shit is done, it's done. Look I get it, you only understand money and think that protecting profits is all that matters, it's sad however that you can't realize your way of think is wrong. Money is a construct of man, we can live without it, what we CAN'T live without is a clean environment.

    [url]http://www.cleanwateraction.org/files/publications/national/Water%20of%20the%20US%20leg1111_04.pdf[/url]

    http://www.cleanwateraction.org/pa

    http://ecowatch.org/a/193922

    http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/guidance/wetlands/CWAwaters.cfm

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-fleischli/clean-water-under-attack-_b_1086775.html


    Look at any long term pollution trends. They have consistently fallen.

    Yea....no
    bullshit.gif


    Wrong again. http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/v26n2-4.pdf - references EPA stats. You can however feel free to dig up stats yourself to verify. I'm not saying that there isn't work to be done but the reality is that pollution consistently falls because it's by definition a creation of an unwanted byproduct and an inefficient use of resources - so businesses seek to minimize it.


    So much dishonesty here I don't even know where to begin.
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    Nov 21, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    riddler78 saidPretty wonkish with a lot of detail... not for the casual reader -

    http://www.freedomworks.org/the-tea-party-budget


    Instead, we offer a bold — but, we believe, feasible — plan that:

    * “Cuts, caps, and balances” federal spending.

    * Balances the budget in four years, and keeps it balanced, without tax hikes.

    * Closes an historically large budget gap, equal to almost one-tenth of our economy.

    * Reduces federal spending by $9.7 trillion over the next 10 years, as opposed to the President’splan to increase spending by $2.3 trillion.

    * Shrinks the federal government from 24 percent of GDP — a level exceed only in World War II —to about 17.5 percent, in line with the postwar norm.

    * Stops the growth of the debt, and begins paying it down, with a goal of eliminating it within thisgeneration.

    To achieve these goals, our plan, among other things:

    * Repeals ObamaCare in toto.

    * Eliminates four Cabinet agencies — Energy, Education, Commerce, and HUD — and reduces orprivatizes many others, including EPA, TSA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac.

    * Ends farm subsidies, student loans, and foreign aid to countries that don’t support us — luxuries we can no longer afford.

    * Saves Social Security and greatly improves future benefits by shifting ownership and control fromgovernment to individuals, through new SMART Accounts.

    * Gives Medicare seniors the right to opt into the Congressional health care plan.

    * Suspends pension contributions and COLAs for Members of Congress, whenever the budget is indeficit.



    Your on the right track. The only thing I would like to see is more cutting in spending and some tax cuts. I would like to see the Department of Interior gone.



    I agree, let's add Interior to the "gone" list.