Suspect who fired shots at the White House, to face charge of "Attempted Assassination"

  • HndsmKansan

    Posts: 16311

    Nov 17, 2011 8:20 PM GMT
    I personally wonder about this prosecution effort, but they have the facts.


    Pittsburgh (CNN) -- An Idaho man arrested in connection with a White House shooting incident will be charged with trying to assassinate President Barack Obama or a member of his staff, a federal prosecutor said Thursday.

    The announcement came at the first federal court hearing for Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, 21, who allegedly was involved in a shooting last Friday that may be responsible for two bullets found at the White House.

    One bullet hit a window and was stopped by bulletproof glass, and another was found on the White House exterior, the Secret Service said. Both bullets were found Tuesday.

    Ortega-Hernandez will be charged with attempted assassination, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Jimmy Kitchen. The charge carries a possible maximum penalty of life in prison and a $250,000 fine.

    At the brief hearing, Ortega-Hernandez spoke once, answering "yes, ma'am" when Magistrate Cynthia Eddy asked if he understood what his federal defender had said on his behalf.

    Eddy agreed with a prosecution request for Ortega-Hernandez to remain in custody. Ortega-Hernandez agreed to be extradited to Washington, D.C., and the federal defender, Christopher Brown, said the defendant reserved his right for a detention and preliminary hearing after the transfer.

    The government agreed not to formally indict Ortega-Hernandez until after his transfer, Brown said. It was not immediately clear when the transfer would occur, but it was expected in coming days.

    With long, tangled hair and a beard, Ortega-Hernandez wore a white jumpsuit and was handcuffed with legs chained when entering the courtroom guarded by U.S. marshals.

    Guards removed the handcuffs for the hearing, but the leg chains remained on as he sat down.

    Lt. Brad Shields of the Pennsylvania State Police said Ortega-Hernandez, originally from Idaho, was arrested Wednesday in western Pennsylvania under a U.S. Park Police warrant issued Sunday in Washington "based on a shooting that occurred at the White House on November 11."

    According to Shields, a tip came in Wednesday that the man sought by federal authorities in the Washington shooting was at a Hampton Inn in the town of Indiana, Pennsylvania.

    Ortega-Hernandez had stayed at the hotel with another person for a few days before the Friday shooting incident, Shields said.

    When Ortega-Hernandez returned to the hotel on Wednesday, staff members recognized him from a photo provided by authorities and notified police, Shields said.

    Ortega-Hernandez was arrested without any resistance in the hotel lobby, asking why he was being detained, Shields said. A bag of his was checked by sniffer dogs, but no weapons were found, according to Shields.

    The suspect apparently returned to the hotel to locate what Shields called "his friend," and Shields said the suspect's companion was not from the area. He provided no further details of the companion's identity or whereabouts.

    In Idaho Falls, Idaho, police spokeswoman Joelyn Hansen said the man -- identified there as Oscar Ramiro Ortega -- was reported missing October 31. Hansen said Ortega is the same man that the Secret Service is calling Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez.

    The bullets were found on the south side of the White House, a Secret Service official not authorized to speak on the record told CNN.

    "A round was stopped by ballistic glass behind the historic exterior glass," a Secret Service statement said. "One additional round has been found on the exterior of the White House. This damage has not been conclusively connected to Friday's incident, and an assessment of the exterior of the White House is ongoing,".

    Last Friday night around 9 p.m., U.S. Park Police and the Secret Service investigated after hearing shots fired about 700 to 800 yards from the White House, the Secret Service statement said.

    Within five minutes, officers located a vehicle in the 2300 block of Constitution Avenue, according to the statement.

    "Evidence in the vehicle led to U.S. Park Police obtaining an arrest warrant for Oscar Ortega -Hernandez," described as a 21-year-old Hispanic male, 5 feet 11 inches tall and weighing 160 pounds, the Secret Service statement said.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    "Occupy San Diego Protester Asks For Moment Of Silence For White House Shooter"

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
    riddler78 said"Occupy San Diego Protester Asks For Moment Of Silence For White House Shooter"

    Pretty fucking dumb.. Its obvious this idiot is just that, an idiot.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 2:49 PM GMT
    Under Federal Sentences guidelines, the prosecutor has broad discretion in handling the case appropriately. But it is much, much easier to decrease someone's charge or sentence than it is to increase it after they are arraigned.

    This guy will get a punishment appropriate to what he did, but it won't be life. He will get something substantial becasue you have to dissuade people from shooting at the White House, but it will be more within reasonable and normal boundaries, IMHO.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said"Occupy San Diego Protester Asks For Moment Of Silence For White House Shooter"

    Pretty fucking dumb.. Its obvious this idiot is just that, an idiot.


    The protester or the dishonesty of portraying the shooting as linked to the Occupy movement?


    Remember the repugnant "Yellow Peril " propaganda of the past century in North America?

    Are people who like riddler just malevolent liars, or the kind of mental defectives that racists point to as the worst exemplars of a "race?" Behaviour like his really fuels racism. Talk about giving your enemies exactly what they accuse you of.

    It is sad when people like riddler bring shame and hatred toward their own community.



  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    He can hit a window at 700+ yards? He should get a sharp-shooting award rather than punishment. icon_lol.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    Upper_Cdn said
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said"Occupy San Diego Protester Asks For Moment Of Silence For White House Shooter"

    Pretty fucking dumb.. Its obvious this idiot is just that, an idiot.


    The protester or the dishonesty of portraying the shooting as linked to the Occupy movement?


    Remember the repugnant "Yellow Peril " propaganda of the past century in North America?

    Are people who like riddler just malevolent liars, or the kind of mental defectives that racists point to as the worst exemplars of a "race?" Behaviour like his really fuels racism. Talk about giving your enemies exactly what they accuse you of.

    It is sad when people like riddler bring shame and hatred toward their own community.



    In bold.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 18, 2011 5:48 PM GMT
    Upper_Cdn said
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said"Occupy San Diego Protester Asks For Moment Of Silence For White House Shooter"

    Pretty fucking dumb.. Its obvious this idiot is just that, an idiot.


    The protester or the dishonesty of portraying the shooting as linked to the Occupy movement?


    Remember the repugnant "Yellow Peril " propaganda of the past century in North America?

    Are people who like riddler just malevolent liars, or the kind of mental defectives that racists point to as the worst exemplars of a "race?" Behaviour like his really fuels racism. Talk about giving your enemies exactly what they accuse you of.

    It is sad when people like riddler bring shame and hatred toward their own community.


    Actually - that you see me for my race as opposed for countering ideas with counterarguments just makes you a racist plain and simple. That you feel the need to blame your hate for others who share my ancestry speaks rather poorly of you. Blatant liar? You have yet to show anything that resembles a disassembling of my arguments and if anything all you've shown is how unhinged you become when people come up with differing ideas.

    The irony of course in all of this, and what I have been attempting to point out is the absolute double standard and brush that was used to paint the tea partiers. On the other hand, where are the critics of those like this fool and the plethora of violent offenses that have been committed by Occupy protesters.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 04, 2012 1:19 AM GMT
    Yep that was a right wing Zionist terrorist

  • Webster666

    Posts: 9217

    Jun 04, 2012 4:32 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    Upper_Cdn said
    TropicalMark said
    riddler78 said"Occupy San Diego Protester Asks For Moment Of Silence For White House Shooter"

    Pretty fucking dumb.. Its obvious this idiot is just that, an idiot.


    The protester or the dishonesty of portraying the shooting as linked to the Occupy movement?


    Remember the repugnant "Yellow Peril " propaganda of the past century in North America?

    Are people who like riddler just malevolent liars, or the kind of mental defectives that racists point to as the worst exemplars of a "race?" Behaviour like his really fuels racism. Talk about giving your enemies exactly what they accuse you of.

    It is sad when people like riddler bring shame and hatred toward their own community.


    Actually - that you see me for my race as opposed for countering ideas with counterarguments just makes you a racist plain and simple. That you feel the need to blame your hate for others who share my ancestry speaks rather poorly of you. Blatant liar? You have yet to show anything that resembles a disassembling of my arguments and if anything all you've shown is how unhinged you become when people come up with differing ideas.

    The irony of course in all of this, and what I have been attempting to point out is the absolute double standard and brush that was used to paint the tea partiers. On the other hand, where are the critics of those like this fool and the plethora of violent offenses that have been committed by Occupy protesters.




    "the plethora of violent offenses that have been committed by Occupy protesters ?!"

    Oh, please provide a short list of these alleged violent offenses. And, be specific.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 04, 2012 5:27 AM GMT
    It's sad how some people find it difficult to use Google or even look elsewhere here on this site, but here you go:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1836472?forumpage=58