2013 XTS

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    Nov 18, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    Don't know what I think yet. Should not/never be a V6 in a Cadillac - V8s only. Small displacement ok, but make it a V8. 300HP is about a 100 short of where it should be. I don't like the two tone black and white interior, but I’m sure there other choices. Car is about 2 - 3 inches too narrow. I like the short, RWD like, overhang in the front. Rear wheels are too far forward. Nose is too bulbous, but will likely be in everything with the euro pedestrian impact standards. Interesting styling overall with good brand identity.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-cadillac-xts-la-2011/med/#photo-4615156
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    Nov 18, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
    I actually don't mind the new Cadillac designs. I have to say that after the STS, things didn't get back into the groove until the CTS-V got some attention. The thing that gets me is the grille - I'd have a fit trying to keep that sucker clean icon_smile.gif

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    Nov 18, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
    carnut saidI actually don't mind the new Cadillac designs. I have to say that after the STS, things didn't get back into the groove until the CTS-V got some attention. The thing that gets me is the grille - I'd have a fit trying to keep that sucker clean icon_smile.gif



    and CTS V is fine, but I need more rear leg room.

    I need a new work car fairly soon and still not at all sure what yet. Back seat legroom is a very big deal as it seems that most of my clients are 6' 2" or above. Right now they prefer the back seat of mine versus the front, but mine is a 2009, and its very rare that I stay put in the same car this long.
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    Nov 18, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
    Wow. What a weird car. Trying to compete against the MB E class, but with only a 300HP V6 and FWD? It's more accurate to say that it's competing against the Lexus ES. If this Caddy is priced over $30K, it's gonna flop.
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    Nov 18, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    xrichx saidWow. What a weird car. Trying to compete against the MB E class, but with only a 300HP V6 and FWD? It's more accurate to say that it's competing against the Lexus ES. If this Caddy is priced over $30K, it's gonna flop.


    True, the MB E350 has TWO more hp.

    The Lacrosse with 280hp and $10K more than $30k has done very well. That's what competes with the ES and IMO is a way better car. I got enlightened a bit when I drove both back to back. I just want something new with this size back seat.
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    Nov 18, 2011 5:16 AM GMT
    very sleek... sorta looks Lincoln'esq'...
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    Nov 19, 2011 12:08 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidDon't know what I think yet. Should not/never be a V6 in a Cadillac - V8s only. Small displacement ok, but make it a V8. 300HP is about a 100 short of where it should be. I don't like the two tone black and white interior, but I’m sure there other choices. Car is about 2 - 3 inches too narrow. I like the short, RWD like, overhang in the front. Rear wheels are too far forward. Nose is too bulbous, but will likely be in everything with the euro pedestrian impact standards. Interesting styling overall with good brand identity.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-cadillac-xts-la-2011/med/#photo-4615156


    it looks good but the roofline is too high makes it look like a cruze other than that i like it but having only V8s isn't efficient even small blocks u could get the same power out of a V6 with the right setup a turbo maybe
    and it shld be economic V8s are gas hogs
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    Nov 19, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidand CTS V is fine, but I need more rear leg room.

    I need a new work car fairly soon and still not at all sure what yet. Back seat legroom is a very big deal as it seems that most of my clients are 6' 2" or above. Right now they prefer the back seat of mine versus the front, but mine is a 2009, and its very rare that I stay put in the same car this long.


    I assume you're a loyal Caddy fan? How about an SRX? Or do you want to have a traditional sedan? Is the STS too big?

    What about other makes?
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    Nov 19, 2011 1:57 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidDon't know what I think yet. Should not/never be a V6 in a Cadillac - V8s only. Small displacement ok, but make it a V8. 300HP is about a 100 short of where it should be. I don't like the two tone black and white interior, but I’m sure there other choices. Car is about 2 - 3 inches too narrow. I like the short, RWD like, overhang in the front. Rear wheels are too far forward. Nose is too bulbous, but will likely be in everything with the euro pedestrian impact standards. Interesting styling overall with good brand identity.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-cadillac-xts-la-2011/med/#photo-4615156



    But I agree it shldve been RWD the power is gd but shldve been RWD and a bit
    They shldve made it a bit lower and sleeker so it wld compete with the E class
    I hope they'll offer a more powerfyl option
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    Nov 19, 2011 1:58 AM GMT
    Ewww. I'm just not a fan of modern American cars.. they just don't quite seem quite 'there' yet. Wouldn't say no to a 50s/60s/70s yank tank though.
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:02 AM GMT
    They make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:42 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidDon't know what I think yet. Should not/never be a V6 in a Cadillac - V8s only. Small displacement ok, but make it a V8. 300HP is about a 100 short of where it should be. I don't like the two tone black and white interior, but I’m sure there other choices. Car is about 2 - 3 inches too narrow. I like the short, RWD like, overhang in the front. Rear wheels are too far forward. Nose is too bulbous, but will likely be in everything with the euro pedestrian impact standards. Interesting styling overall with good brand identity.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-cadillac-xts-la-2011/med/#photo-4615156


    it looks good but the roofline is too high makes it look like a cruze other than that i like it but having only V8s isn't efficient even small blocks u could get the same power out of a V6 with the right setup a turbo maybe
    and it shld be economic V8s are gas hogs


    Even if I could get the same power out of a V6, I don't want it - I don't want to hear it. V8s only.

    And it's funny regarding the fuel economy - my brother and I both have droids and we both were comparing our long term average fuel economy using an Android app named fuel log. He's a very conservative driver and I am mostly. Both of us live around the same area, go to the same gym, travel pretty much the same roads. I have 6 liters and my long term city average is 18.8 and he has an older Infiniti G35 3.5 liter V6 and he's just over 20mpg overall. My car is also about 350lb heavier. It’s not worth it for 1.2 mpg. If my city average could be 28+ then I would look at it.

    Edit: And when the Cruze diesel is out, I may well do it for a daily driver.
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidand CTS V is fine, but I need more rear leg room.

    I need a new work car fairly soon and still not at all sure what yet. Back seat legroom is a very big deal as it seems that most of my clients are 6' 2" or above. Right now they prefer the back seat of mine versus the front, but mine is a 2009, and its very rare that I stay put in the same car this long.


    I assume you're a loyal Caddy fan? How about an SRX? Or do you want to have a traditional sedan? Is the STS too big?

    What about other makes?


    Not loyal to anything really. If I wasn't concerned where gas prices could go, considering who we have as current president, and what just happened to Keystone, I'd get a Grand Chick.
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidDon't know what I think yet. Should not/never be a V6 in a Cadillac - V8s only. Small displacement ok, but make it a V8. 300HP is about a 100 short of where it should be. I don't like the two tone black and white interior, but I’m sure there other choices. Car is about 2 - 3 inches too narrow. I like the short, RWD like, overhang in the front. Rear wheels are too far forward. Nose is too bulbous, but will likely be in everything with the euro pedestrian impact standards. Interesting styling overall with good brand identity.

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-cadillac-xts-la-2011/med/#photo-4615156



    But I agree it shldve been RWD the power is gd but shldve been RWD and a bit
    They shldve made it a bit lower and sleeker so it wld compete with the E class
    I hope they'll offer a more powerfyl option


    Well, it’s AWD option for a 150lb weight penalty, but I still prefer RWD with a true LSD.
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:49 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
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    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:54 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8


    Not!

    I hate dealer service departments. I'd see it way too often with a VW / Audi.
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    Nov 19, 2011 2:58 AM GMT
    I'd just wait for the big RWD drive Cadillac with the gen 5 LSx, but it will be in the A8, S, 7 price range. Or the Zeta VF that will be used for some name unknown Chevy - the G8 GT/GXP replacement.
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    Nov 19, 2011 3:00 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8


    Not!

    I hate dealer service departments. I'd see it way too often with a VW / Audi.


    so you want a high HP saloon with a large backseat?
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    Nov 19, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8


    Not!

    I hate dealer service departments. I'd see it way too often with a VW / Audi.


    so you want a high HP saloon with a large backseat?


    Correct.
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    Nov 19, 2011 3:06 AM GMT
    I had it happen two days ago when I picked up some clients to go look at some other properties. I knew there would be three guys - I didn't know there would be four. I could get three across in the back easily. Good thing because their atty dropped them off with his big SUV, but their two cars were someplace else so I then took them to the properties we were looking at and then back to their car. I would have been screwed in something where I couldn't get the occasional three across in back
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    Nov 19, 2011 3:07 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8


    Not!

    I hate dealer service departments. I'd see it way too often with a VW / Audi.


    so you want a high HP saloon with a large backseat?


    Correct.


    equuis. Over 400hp and you can fit the Duggers in the back seat.
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    Nov 19, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8


    Not!

    I hate dealer service departments. I'd see it way too often with a VW / Audi.


    so you want a high HP saloon with a large backseat?


    Correct.


    equuis. Over 400hp and you can fit the Duggers in the back seat.


    True, but wrong country.
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    Nov 19, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 said
    freedomisntfree said
    Dallasfan824 saidThey make a V version which has over 400HP. The days of a V8 in a standard mass produced road car are over given Obama's new mileage mandates. The best you are going to get is a turbo V6

    Edit: I dont know about the V version. I thought we were talking CTS and not XTS. But I bet their will be one.



    Yeah, 556hp so that's over 400 in the CTSv, but I need more back seat room than that. I wouldn't doubt that the XTS gets a V version. Haldex AWD would be fine with it, but it would be a twin turbo V6


    Easy. Audi S8


    Not!

    I hate dealer service departments. I'd see it way too often with a VW / Audi.


    so you want a high HP saloon with a large backseat?


    Correct.


    equuis. Over 400hp and you can fit the Duggers in the back seat.


    True, but wrong country.


    Lexus LS