Muscularity IS heritable, and it shows you are more fertile

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    Nov 19, 2011 5:23 PM GMT
    According to a study by the University of California, researching why muscularity is "sexy", it has been found that muscularity is heritable from father to son.

    Here's an excerpt of the journal article:

    For women to gain some genetic benefit by mating with muscular men, however, muscularity must be heritable. Estimates of the heritability of traits associated with muscularity indicate that extremity circumferences (e.g., bicep circumference), static strength (e.g., how much weight a person can hold in place), and explosive strength (e.g., vertical jump) range from 20% to 80%
    depending on the given trait (Loos et al., 1997; Thomis, Beunen, Maes, et al., 1998; Thomis, Beunen, Van Leemputte, et al., 1998; Thomis et al., 1997). One twin study assessing gains in strength across a 10-week training period also found that the ability to add muscle mass beyond one’s baseline degree of muscularity is heritable (Thomis, Beunen, Maes, et al., 199icon_cool.gif. The finding
    that there are underlying genetic differences related to muscle mass indicates that muscularity, along with the suite of traits correlated with it, can be passed on to offspring.
    This provides offspring with the advantage of developing traits that are attractive to females, further enhancing the women’s reproductive success in later generations.

    The article goes on to say that muscularity is one of six secondary sexual characteristics that are cues of genes that increase offspring viability or reproductive success, due to the amount of testosterone the male can "spare" for this activity.

    So as a conclusion, being muscular means being more fertile and having more genes. hehe. Who would have thought that?

    This is the link to the article (very interesting read):
    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download doi=10.1.1.123.5832&rep=rep1&type=pdf
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    Nov 19, 2011 5:56 PM GMT
    Yay!
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    Nov 19, 2011 5:57 PM GMT
    Claystation saidYay!


    Lol, Yay you!
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    Nov 19, 2011 5:59 PM GMT
    Yay me!!

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    Nov 19, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    Claystation saidYay!


    Lol, Yay you!


    Yey to us all indeed. Now let's get on a fuckin plane and make a baby in each and every country in this fuckin planet!
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:03 PM GMT
    i dont agree with that study
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
    It would make sense that muscularity is an inherited trait. It would have been necessary when our ancestors had to fight to survive. Gaining fat would also be an inherited trait because you would need to gain extra fat for the leaner months. Those necessities don't exist in modern society though.
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:10 PM GMT
    I need to step up my game to get that potential it seems. icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    mewooo111 saidi dont agree with that study


    That's just loser-talk.

    If you inherited some muscles, like some people in this world who are naturally ripped, then you'd be singing a different tune.
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:17 PM GMT
    very interesting although shows I have very little potential, but eh I don't give care icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
    I'm not surprised!

    In my company they measure everyone's body fat and weight on a regular basis as part of a wellness program of the company. I made a little research with some sedentary coworkers and noticed that the mesomorphs have a relatively high lean body mass index. Sedentary mesomorphs had a LBMI between 20 to 21. Poor ecto and endomorphs were always ranging from 16.5 to 18, suggesting that we're not just unequally fat, but also unequally muscular by nature. Some mesomorphs who were working out for just a few months had a LBMI that took me years to achieve -- if at all.

    When I asked those glorious mesomorphs who were starting to work out how much weight they were putting on this and that exercise, the drastic difference was there too, with some guys putting on their first day on the bench press as much weight as it took me 2.5 years to achieve (I've been working out for 3.5 years now)

    I wonder why there is still so much animosity against steroids when it's clear some of us have a much bigger fish to fry. I'm talking about a natural, not self-induced disadvantage that imposes potentially several more years of training, and while this shouldn't make a difference -- we must work out forever after all -- it can certainly take its toll on one's sex and love life for the added years one has to wait to enjoy the exclusive benefits that a muscular body has when it comes to gay dating.
  • MisterT

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    Nov 19, 2011 6:25 PM GMT
    I have always been strong/muscular, though have to work hard to good get definition. I'm a mix of meso and endomorphs, I think closer to mesomorph
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    Of course it's inheritable, but I don't see the connection with testosterone or fertility.
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    Little_Spoon saidI need to step up my game to get that potential it seems. icon_smile.gif


    You look pretty dang good to me :-)
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:44 PM GMT
    kandsk saidOf course it's inheritable, but I don't see the connection with testosterone or fertility.


    Read the article. It has more than one finding icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:46 PM GMT
    Triver89 said
    mewooo111 saidi dont agree with that study


    That's just loser-talk.

    If you inherited some muscles, like some people in this world who are naturally ripped, then you'd be singing a different tune.


    HA!!
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
    This is BS, all of my dad's family on the male side are naturally buff and I have a body like a tooth pick.............
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    whateveryo saidThis is BS, all of my dad's family on the male side are naturally buff and I have a body like a tooth pick.............


    Good point. Total BS.

    I don't know why more studies aren't done on your family.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
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    whateveryo saidThis is BS, all of my dad's family on the male side are naturally buff and I have a body like a tooth pick.............
    You might fill out with time, though. Was they muscular even when they were your age?


    Not to mention the fact that genetics isn't an all or nothing thing. Both of my parents have hazel eyes and yet my little brother has blue. It isn't because the genetics are lying, it is because he either had a mutation in his genome, or there were recessive traits in both of my parents coding for blue eyes.
    If your full dad's side of the family is buff, but still has the gene to produce a skinny child, and your mother also carries the gene to produce a skinny child, they can have a skinny child. Assuming that being skinny is a simple recessive trait and muscularity is a simple dominant one, your chances of being skinny and coming from a muscular family are 1:4 to 1:2 depending on your mother's traits.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    whateveryo saidThis is BS, all of my dad's family on the male side are naturally buff and I have a body like a tooth pick.............


    Not really. Genetics have a weird way of working themselves out. Like what about your mom's side? How old were your dad's relatives before they achieved their physiques? Stuff like that.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    mewooo111 saidi dont agree with that study


    I think Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica is utter bullshit and yet I can't fly. Sucks how that works out.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    whateveryo saidThis is BS, all of my dad's family on the male side are naturally buff and I have a body like a tooth pick.............


    It is inheritable, but not guaranteed. Just because they have the gene to be naturally muscular, doesn't mean you will get it. You could have gotten your build from your mom's side, or a recessive gene on your dad's side.

    Most men and women on both sides of my family(mom's and dad's) have been muscular/strongly built. So it was dominant on both sides of my family, made it more likely for me to have same build.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    Well I definitely agree with this... My fraternal twin brother is tall, lanky and awkward, and he works out like a fiend in the Army... I, however, have a pretty nice build and haven't been to a gym in months... I went to the gym with him this week and we are lifting the same weight ( I lift more on a few exercises).

    I definitely didn't 'earn' my physique (Well, okay - I run and eat decent, but never in my life have I had a consistant gym regimen), so it must be somewhat genetic.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    ThePenIsMyTier saidWell I definitely agree with this... My fraternal twin brother is tall, lanky and awkward, and he works out like a fiend in the Army... I, however, have a pretty nice build and haven't been to a gym in months... I went to the gym with him this week and we are lifting the same weight ( I lift more on a few exercises).

    I definitely didn't 'earn' my physique (Well, okay - I run and eat decent, but never in my life have I had a consistant gym regimen), so it must be somewhat genetic.


    BITCH.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    Trollileo said
    jorge92 said
    Trollileo said
    whateveryo saidThis is BS, all of my dad's family on the male side are naturally buff and I have a body like a tooth pick.............
    You might fill out with time, though. Was they muscular even when they were your age?


    Not to mention the fact that genetics isn't an all or nothing thing.
    That's true. The badass genes seemed to skip my mother and her five brothers and sisters and over compensated for my mother's failure by hitting me and my sisters over the head with the awesome stick.


    Stop bragging about your enormous penis.