Tent Scene in Brokeback Mountain

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    Nov 19, 2011 5:27 PM GMT
    I have a question about one of the most iconic scenes in gay cinema: the tent scene in Brokeback Mountain where the two protagonists have sex for the first time.

    Is this scene depicting a reasonable and believable way of how two closeted guys could have sex the first time?

    And for those who have watched the movie, what happened just before the sex scene, when Jack grabbed Ennis' hand under the sheets? What was the catalyst? Or was it just Jack making a move on Ennis out of the blue?

    Do you think such a scene could happen in real life given the same circumstances of the protagonists?
  • Suetonius

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    Nov 19, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    samurai111 said

    Do you think such a scene could happen in real life given the same circumstances of the protagonists?

    Possibly. It's only a movie. And the screenplay was taken almost verbatim from the short story, which was written by a woman. (And they know a lot about gay sexuality.)
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    All I know is that they BBed and thats not safe
  • masculumpedes

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    Nov 19, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    I've never seen the movie....icon_redface.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
    malefeet saidI've never seen the movie....icon_redface.gif


    Bad Gay! Bad!

    (Really over-hyped and depressing.)
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    Your definition of iconic is much more generous than my definition of iconic.
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    samurai111 saidI have a question about one of the most iconic scenes in gay cinema: the tent scene in Brokeback Mountain where the two protagonists have sex for the first time.

    Is this scene depicting a reasonable and believable way of how two closeted guys could have sex the first time?

    And for those who have watched the movie, what happened just before the sex scene, when Jack grabbed Ennis' hand under the sheets? What was the catalyst? Or was it just Jack making a move on Ennis out of the blue?

    Do you think such a scene could happen in real life given the same circumstances of the protagonists?



    Hahaha... I so hated that scene. I loved the movie but hated that scene so much. It was so cold and "to the point." I mean, sure, they were trying to show us that they were both rugged cowboys and inexperienced in the art of love making, but come on, really? He just stuck it in there and went to town! Where was the lube for gawd's sake? Ouch!

    They had sexual tension up until that point, so I think when they got drunk that night, it didn't take much catalyst to get the ball moving. I think Jack could have merely touched Ennis and that would have been enough to engage in said scene. They both so wanted each other.

    I would hope that in real life there would be a little more fooling around and experimenting before the anal, ass-pounding pursued. I mean, why would two rugged cowboys, who never had a gay experience, go immediately to anal sex? Maybe I'm just old fashioned. I thought you go from handjobs to blowjobs and, finally, to anal sex. I guess not! icon_lol.gif

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    Nov 19, 2011 6:11 PM GMT
    Not to mention all those sheep.......icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    Usually the first time is a jo/bj, heavy making out and the penetration stuff is done the 2nd time (from what bi guys have told me) That scene was a little unrealistic and gross because I doubt Jake had time to "clean" if you know what I mean. Unless that was a part of the directors cut lol. Me thinks there were brownies in the oven ewwww....
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:18 PM GMT
    Best part of the movie...

  • KissTheSky

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    Nov 19, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    I always thought that scene seemed completely unbelievable... like a straight person's misguided idea of what would happen between two men.
    There were aspects of that movie that were really well done, but the main theme really bothered me... it seems every mainstream "gay" movie is either a comedy that promotes the idea of gay people as clownish and ridiculous, or it's a weepy tragedy where every gay character ends up dead or alone (like all those 80s/90s AIDS movies).
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    Yeah, it looked like a women wrote it. It needed a spit/lube up scene at least and I was left wondering if the bottom had a vagina.
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:30 PM GMT
    Not to mention from what I mentioned it sounded and looked like a rape... absolutely no sense of pleasure... it seemed so uncomfortable. I won't give them this much credit but maybe it was like "Okay, it's their first time, they didn't really know what they were doing". icon_question.gif

    I'm not a big fan of that movie anyway. Overrated. I saw it once and it didn't really hold my attention.
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:31 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidYeah, it looked like a women wrote it. It needed a spit lube up seen at least and we are left wondering how the bottom loosened himself up.


    Well, from what I've heard...some va-johnny's are self-lubricating...icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    SPIT! There was spit. I think I recall some spit. That was tender and thoughtful.

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    Nov 19, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
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    Well said and very true. There wasn't even kissing, grabbing, and body contact. It's impossible to just 'stick it in' especially if you're a novice. That scene is a bad example. If the scene was to be accurate, they would have grabbed each other, kissed passionately, gotten the clothes off in a hurry, gone back to kissing, explored each others bodies (first time with another guy, duh), decided on who took it and who gave it, prepared the hole, and then started slow, worked up, and went to town when they were the most connected, at ease, and at the height of passion. You have to build to it. You have to build to everything really.

    If someone does another gay sex scene, I gave you the lengthy step-by-step process....for men by men icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 19, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    Passionplay88 said
    CuddleBuddy said
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    Well said and very true. There wasn't even kissing, grabbing, and body contact. It's impossible to just 'stick it in' especially if you're a novice. That scene is a bad example. If the scene was to be accurate, they would have grabbed each other, kissed passionately, gotten the clothes off in a hurry, gone back to kissing, explored each others bodies (first time with another guy, duh), decided on who took it and who gave it, prepared the hole, and then started slow, worked up, and went to town when they were the most connected, at ease, and at the height of passion. You have to build to it. You have to build to everything really.

    If someone does another gay sex scene, I gave you the lengthy step-by-step process....for men by men icon_biggrin.gif


    Hot Damn! What where we talking about?

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    Nov 19, 2011 7:00 PM GMT
    samurai111 saidI have a question about one of the most iconic scenes in gay cinema: the tent scene in Brokeback Mountain where the two protagonists have sex for the first time.

    Is this scene depicting a reasonable and believable way of how two closeted guys could have sex the first time?

    And for those who have watched the movie, what happened just before the sex scene, when Jack grabbed Ennis' hand under the sheets? What was the catalyst? Or was it just Jack making a move on Ennis out of the blue?

    Do you think such a scene could happen in real life given the same circumstances of the protagonists?


    Absolutely. Back in the beginning of the summer, I found myself in a backcountry hot spring with a cute straight guy. Other people came and went, but he and I definitely connected, had a great conversation, etc. Eventually it was just us alone as the sun was setting and the stars started to come out. When he let his leg brush up, then rest, against mine, I knew it was on. icon_smile.gif I leaned forward, took hold of his leg under the water and he didn't flinch. Pretty soon we were making out and eventually went for a few rounds in the back of his truck in the parking lot! It was a good night. His first guy experience. Not without its awkward moments, but a total fantasy nonetheless!

    Anyway, I think the film scene is pretty realistic. At that point in the story, there's plenty of tension between the characters. Jack grabbing Ennis's hand is definitely the catalyst. Jack didn't just grab his hand "out of the blue." The tension had been building. And Ennis is so buttoned down emotionally. He would never make the first move.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
    it always struck me as unrealistic
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidI always thought that scene seemed completely unbelievable... like a straight person's misguided idea of what would happen between two men.


    I disagree. Remember, it was the 1960s and these guys weren't gay. They were having their first (presumably...for Ennis, yes, Jack, maybe) gay experience together. The scene is awkward because the guys don't know what they're doing, because it's the first time, because neither of them sees himself remotely as gay - but they have this attraction, this connection. And they finally act upon it.
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    a) there was spit lube
    b) HIV wasn't around in the 60s
    c) pretty realistic: closeted guy didn't know what he was doing, drunk, and horny--just used the nearest hole.
    d) the movie isn't all that gr8

    it just goes to show just how desperate gays are for any positive views of ourselves in mainstream media. the acting IS good; the dialogue? nsm i mean really, an uneducated cowboy using the word "commute" in the 60s?
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    Nov 19, 2011 7:19 PM GMT
    I think by that time they both 'knew' they wanted each other. It's just Jack was more secure and knew he had to make the first move. As far as spit for lube HOT but ouch. PS: always use a condom unless you know your long term cowboy is clean and monogamous!
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    Nov 19, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
    I don't know about others, but this movie struck a chord with me. I find it rightfully one of the iconic movies of gay cinema...

    My question was just about this scene. AAnd the thing is, if it is realistic, this makes all the sweeter and hotter icon_smile.gif
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Nov 19, 2011 8:20 PM GMT
    To me the movie was not that great. SHELTER was the best gay movie made so far. the sex stuff was realistic vs brokeback mountain.
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    Nov 19, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    I was watching Family Guy the other night before leaving on vacation and I saw their parody of the tent scene. icon_lol.gif