Good Looks Make Life Easy

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    Jun 03, 2008 6:45 AM GMT
    Is there any validity to the statement, “Good Looks make life easy” or is it just a case of the “Grass is greener Syndrome” where less attractive people believe others have an easier life because of their appearance?

    Usually all my forums are either prompted by things I have just experienced or observed and as such usually have some merit. While growing up, I often noticed that the better someone looked the greater their chances were of succeeding. However my idea on the subject was based merely on speculation with no hard evidence to back it up so I didn’t give it much thought again until I joined Realjock. On a site such as this, where there are so many gorgeous men I could not help but observe the site’s social dynamics and wonder if looks really had an impact. Does it?

    From my observations, Good looking people are noted for getting greater privileges and preferences over less attractive individuals despite whatever venture they are pursuing. Good looking persons tend to be more sociable as well (could be a result of greater confidence in self brought about by endless praise from others.) Good looking students get more attention and higher evaluations from their teachers, good looking patients get more personalized care from their doctors, and handsome criminals receive lighter sentences than less attractive convicts. And studies even suggest that good looking people tend to earn more money and get better jobs.

    In the Journal of Economic Psychology, a research conducted by the University of California was published, which discovered that more attractive people make more money than uglier persons and were consistently judged and treated more positively. Additional studies based on looks versus life were also conducted by Harvard, MIT, University of Pittsburg, University of Florida, University of North Carolina, Guildhall University and a bunch of others which also support this theory.

    All of this is what I love to call the “Halo effect”. Because someone is attractive we automatically assign positive attributes to him that has nothing to do with looks. Whether someone is considered attractive or not, his appearance affects how we relate to him and thus good looking people will forever lead easy lives and less attractive people will always feel the need to change.

    So what I really want to know is:Do you think your life is easier or harder because of how you look?
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    Jun 03, 2008 6:51 AM GMT
    Can't say myself one way or the other.

    Wouldn't the person that is the object of the affection be the least likely to accurately detail it?

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    Jun 03, 2008 7:09 AM GMT
    It's all in the genes.

    We have evolved to associate good-looks with good health and fecundity. Therefore, subconsciously our genes are telling us to back the winner rather than the ugly loser who will also have ugly, unhealthy children who won't be able to support us when we get old and decrepit.

    If you mate with someone who has these good looks then your genes are more likely to survive another generation and win out against the ugly mugs, and no-one wants them to survive.

    Well, that's the theory. Not sure how that transfers to The Gays.
  • Hunter9

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    Jun 03, 2008 7:33 AM GMT
    Good-looks do not make life easy. Good looks do make life easier... however the difference is probably incremental. Remember the question is about life... not about how easy it is to find a quick f*ck
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    Jun 03, 2008 7:34 AM GMT
    Oh. I thought that was all life was about.
  • HereNBoston

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    Jun 03, 2008 7:40 AM GMT
    I actually read a few articles that said good looking people are more likely to be promoted and earn more as well. i forgot where, but one of my friends that works in HR confirmed this trend.

    i also heard of some state trying to pass a bill that would make it illegal to discriminate based on weight. because clearly, that should be the priority of rich fat men in the capital
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    Jun 03, 2008 7:52 AM GMT
    I think it's a grass-is-greener thing.

    I think the studies cited are correct, but they don't address whether the less-attractive person actually values the particular advantages the more-attractive person is gleaning.

    Sure, most probably value a greater-paying job, but maybe the less-attractive person has found value in other aspects of his or her life that offset this disparity. Maybe a lower divorce rate. Maybe greater family size. Whatever.

    I have, on occasion, felt sorry for some pretty people. Their self-fulfilling prophesies about being a chosen one sometimes doom them to always be the achiever, the showman, the politician. And never experiencing the peace that comes from being left alone.
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    Jun 03, 2008 9:34 AM GMT
    Its true, I get by just on people doing extra for me.
    But then again I pretend to be nice. losers, I have them all rapped around my fingers.
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    Jun 03, 2008 10:01 AM GMT
    What's interesting about this is the perspective of the individual versus the group. Few individuals who are considered 'good looking' within their own culture will admit this is true. Some will, and of those who do, they are frequently dependent on it.
    For me, I find that I'm hit on by women on a regular basis (I'm talking about 'real life live situations', not internet forums) but I've only been approached by a man once in the last 8 months. This isn't a complaint but a fact. I could say it's because of my looks, or age, or shyness. So anecdotally, I'm more attractive to women then gay men. I've rarely been complimented in real life by men. The important thing here is that it's only my perception.
    The study you refer to is only one of several similar studies, all of which show similar results. The important aspect of these studies is that they don't ask the participants impression, they simply compare the results.
    Therefore, while those who are better looking are treated better, that may not be their perception.
    Additionally, the fact of being gay and out adds a complex variable to the equation. This aspect alone can, paradoxically work against many of us, or for many of us in different situations for reasons both subtle and gross.
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    Jun 03, 2008 10:27 AM GMT
    I must admit I reacted to your use of the word "easy". I don't think life is ever "easy" unless you are one of those rare people that is set to inherit millions of dollars. Even trust-fund babies can find life difficult because somethings are given to them, they never learn to achieve success on their own.

    People react more positively to good-looking people on initial introduction, but they still have to put in the effort to reach their potential. In terms of successful relationships good-looking people undoubtedly have the same issues as their more average looking peers.
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    Jun 03, 2008 10:36 AM GMT
    Hmmm, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet, Sumner Redstone, Rupert Murdoch...none of them are attractive at all. And yet....

    If you're a hot guy or gal, it might give you a leg up for that pharma sales job or PR spokesperson (although, Scott McClellan anyone?) And it might snag you a hotter mate...but it's not going to help you if the position in question is nuclear physics or tenured English faculty. Meanwhile being rich will almost always get you a hotter mate than will being hot or hung. Money talks and looks walk away as you age.
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    Jun 03, 2008 10:47 AM GMT
    When you are young looks make life easier I'm sure. To state the obvious it helps you attract partners!!!!

    In social situations it helps too - but there's other things working there. Wit, confidence, how interesting your experiences have been, kindness, how easy you are to talk to.

  • GQjock

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    Jun 03, 2008 10:53 AM GMT
    It's true to a certain extent
    Your looks
    Height
    The way you dress
    give you an advantage and may give you some Opportunities but in the end it's what you DO with these opportunities that really matter

    Be careful ...
    it's not that some people get better shakes because they're better looking
    No matter how good you look... there's always gonna be someone who looks better
    Use what you got.. you'll be surprised at how much potential you have
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    Jun 03, 2008 11:17 AM GMT
    Yes. I've seen way too many good-looking people I know get opportunities because they're simply better looking than others. Jobs, schools, relationships, recognition, leadership...

    I don't think it's a 'grass is greener' kind of thing. It's a sad reality.

    The only solution is to clone the next generation from only one couple. That way, everyone will look exactly the same. icon_wink.gif

    The question is... who would it be?
  • UWMGuy917

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    Jun 03, 2008 12:15 PM GMT
    I think it depends on your situation. I've met/know a lot of "hot people" who I can judge solely on personality, only to find out they are indeed genuine, good people.

    On the other hand, I know plenty of attractive, good-looking people who are complete douche-bags.

    On the other hand, from my personal experience (I rarely take looks in account when I'm dating), people are treated differently by how they look. I don't exactly win the most handsome contest so I can see that these better-looking people are indeed treated better. Girls (and guys) give them more attention b/c they've got those certain "Knight-In-Shining-Armor" looks.
  • DiverScience

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    Jun 03, 2008 12:31 PM GMT
    I'd say that normally, yes it does, in certain venues. But it's a mass effect, that is the summation of a bunch of large and small effects. +5 for being tall +10 for being pretty +3 for being muscular (unless you're in science, then -2) etc...

    I think it also depends a lot on field. Attractiveness seems more important to advancement for my friends in business than it is for me in science.
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    Jun 03, 2008 12:36 PM GMT
    RunintheCity saidHmmm, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet, Sumner Redstone, Rupert Murdoch...none of them are attractive at all. And yet....

    If you're a hot guy or gal, it might give you a leg up for that pharma sales job or PR spokesperson (although, Scott McClellan anyone?) And it might snag you a hotter mate...but it's not going to help you if the position in question is nuclear physics or tenured English faculty. Meanwhile being rich will almost always get you a hotter mate than will being hot or hung. Money talks and looks walk away as you age.


    My thoughts exactly. I think being attractive can possibly open up a few more doors, but true success and happiness in life are really based on the individual. I definitely think I have seen some advantages to being what people consider attractive. It doesn't make my day to day working and life much easier. I still get up go to work, head to the gym, and go back to bed just like everyone else.
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    Jun 03, 2008 12:36 PM GMT
    Hmm... now it got me wondering if I'd get the same privileges extended to me if I WERE NOT GAYicon_eek.gif
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    Jun 03, 2008 12:40 PM GMT
    Companies in Dubai are notorious for doing just that! No wonder all the basic customer service here is fucked up.
    I know for a fact that they create positions just for the boss's eye candy even if the recruit is sorely unqualified and hardly gets any job done.
    Damn, if only plasticdubai.com's silence was not bought!!!
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 03, 2008 12:43 PM GMT
    I tend to agree with GQJock... I think its a help, but not determinative. Is it an influence, sure... does a good looking man or woman with a crappy personality? probably not.

    It can be an asset, it can be helpful, but I think it boils down to who you know... or course who you know may be based on who you are... a chicken and egg scene.
  • bradsmith

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    Jun 03, 2008 12:47 PM GMT
    Seems to me this is just one variable...and primarily comes into play in the "First impression" category...because once you're beyond that, sure, there are always the fawners, but if you're not a decent, interesting person, well then you get buttonholed as an attractive, but vapid being.

    And as for the whole rich facet, think that plays out the same way...sure, there will always be people who are attracted to others for what they have; looks, wealth or 12"...but are those the people you keep around you?

    As with any generalization, it tends to fall apart once you get too close...but overall, I guess I'd probably choose to be pleasant to look at and financially secure if I had the choice...(grin)
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    Jun 03, 2008 12:51 PM GMT
    Good looks may get you far, but they can only take you so far. When I see people who seem to get through life based on their looks, I feel quite sad for them. Age and gravity will eventually catch up, and if they didn't spend time developing their brains, they'll unfortunately find themselves worse off than those of us who did.
  • josephmovie

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    Jun 03, 2008 1:46 PM GMT
    It's pretty much a given that good looks make life easier, but that's not always a good thing. I have a friend who is head-turningly spectacular but has never had to pursue much because people are always lining up to offer him opportunities. As a consequence, even though he could do just about anything he has ended out not doing much at all.

    Also I've found that as they get older naturally really good looking people don't age well because they aren't used to doing any maintenence. It's almost as if they think it's beneath them.
  • atxclimber

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    Jun 03, 2008 2:09 PM GMT
    I don't think this question has a meaningful answer -- in order for anyone to say whether their life is easier or harder than another, they'd have to experience the other person's life too, and that's one of those things we don't get to do. We only know our own experience, right? So if the question is "Is life easier when you're good-looking?" I'd ask, "Compared to what?"

    I suppose in the past I've weighed more and taken less care of my appearance than I do now, and I got hit on less and I'm now treated better by strangers I interact with (hooray for looksism!)

    But at some level I think people with privilege (money, looks, whatever) almost have it harder in some ways if you're talking about finding peace and contentment in life, because those things are somewhat antithetical to comfort, and privilege trains us to rely on comfort a lot.

    *shrug*

    It probably depends on what you're looking for out of life, too.
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    Jun 03, 2008 2:26 PM GMT
    If good looks make life easy, then right now I must look hideous...

    I think there is some merit to the statement, but I feel that it puts too much influence on how others perceive you rather than how you perceive yourself. People who are attractive, in shape, well dressed, etc will generally have better self esteem. Some will have too much ego and swagger, mind you. But it is a way of life. those people tend to take better care of themselves, push themselves further and believe they are worth more than those that do not. I know I even behave differently depending on how I am dressed day to day. I really feel there is much power in self love and confidence. It may not always be in appearance. Thos successful blokes mentioned earlier, might not be models, but they put as much confidence in their brain power or personality that it makes up for their looks.

    For the most part I think external appearances can only take you so far. But it is that first impression, that charismatic confidence and that attitude of self love that can get you in the door and allow you to strive for what you know you are worth rather than what you feel people will value you at.