Probiotics?

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    Nov 20, 2011 1:49 PM GMT
    I have a ton of stomach problems which I've resolved through other ways but I feel like my body is expelling most of it before my body as time to process it fully in my stomach.

    I've been looking at probiotics to see if that'll will help the digestion better. Any suggestions on brand? Or if there is some other supplement I can't take?
  • starboard5

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    Nov 20, 2011 6:13 PM GMT
    Dumb question, maybe, but you have seen a gastroenterologist, right?
  • He_Man

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    Nov 20, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    Defenseon saidI have a ton of stomach problems which I've resolved through other ways but I feel like my body is expelling most of it before my body as time to process it fully in my stomach.

    I've been looking at probiotics to see if that'll will help the digestion better. Any suggestions on brand? Or if there is some other supplement I can't take?


    I really like Bio-K products, and I have had great success with them.

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    You can pick them up at WholeFoods Market, and if you don't have a WFM, then try any local health food store.

    Another good one is by Jarrow Formulas, Jarro-Dophilus EPS, which comes in pill form, unlike the Bio-K which is liquid.

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    You may also want to take a digestive enzyme if your body isn't assimilating the food properly. Enzymes help your body break down the foods, and probiotics mainly work in the intestines to help replenish the bacteria, which also helps in food absorption, bloating and gas, and other intestinal concernes.

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    Nov 20, 2011 6:25 PM GMT
    Defenseon saidI have a ton of stomach problems which I've resolved through other ways but I feel like my body is expelling most of it before my body as time to process it fully in my stomach.

    I've been looking at probiotics to see if that'll will help the digestion better. Any suggestions on brand? Or if there is some other supplement I can't take?


    Absolute best way to get probiotics is through homemade yogurt. Ferment for 24 hours to remove all lactose and use whole, non-homogenized milk if possible. Avoid Bifidus like the plague as it tends to overgrow. If you have stomach issues, Bifidus is bad news. This is a great yogurt starter, the best I've found:

    http://www.giprohealth.com/yogurtstarter.aspx
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    Nov 20, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI didn't know that the process of fermentation got rid of lactose. icon_idea.gif


    Most commercial yogurt is fermented for 4-6 hours. It takes at least 24 (no more than 36) to get rid of (pretty much) all lactose. Lactose is what feeds the probiotic cultures. The more time they have to eat it up, the less you get in your yogurt! Makes for a very tangy, smooth yogurt.

    I never have issues digesting homemade yogurt. In fact, the opposite. A cup a day and my digestion is great. Just remember to stay away from anything with Bifidus!

    Another great option for probiotics is homemade Kombucha.
  • Grubberboy

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    Nov 20, 2011 6:53 PM GMT
    I have been having the same problem myself and am taking Sustenex and it has helped some. However, I do believe there is an underlying problem that it won't solve. The answer would be of course to get tests done, but without health insurance, that is going to be difficult. If you do have insurance, I strongly suggest you go get some tests done.
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    Nov 20, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThanks for the warning Tahoe.

    But care to share why we should stay away from bifidus? You said it overgrows but how is that a problem?



    It isn't necessarily a problem for all people. But if you have stomach issues, bacterial overgrowth (whatever bacteria it may be) is often part of the problem. Best to stay away from bacteria, even "good" bacteria, that is known to overgrow or you risk exacerbating your existing digestive issues.

    Another thing that really helped my digestive issues was a month long candida cleanse with supplements. Nuked the gut and started to rebuild and it's been much better since.
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    Nov 20, 2011 6:55 PM GMT
    Grubberboy saidI have been having the same problem myself and am taking Sustenex and it has helped some. However, I do believe there is an underlying problem that it won't solve. The answer would be of course to get tests done, but without health insurance, that is going to be difficult. If you do have insurance, I strongly suggest you go get some tests done.


    Check out Genova Diagnostics for very comprehensive testing for digestive issues:

    http://www.gdx.net/
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    Nov 20, 2011 8:53 PM GMT
    Any refrigerated acidophilus supplement.

    Inherently higher cultures, and generally a better quality product than non-refrigerated. A bit more expensive perhaps.
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    Nov 21, 2011 12:39 AM GMT
    tahoebackpacker said
    Grubberboy saidI have been having the same problem myself and am taking Sustenex and it has helped some. However, I do believe there is an underlying problem that it won't solve. The answer would be of course to get tests done, but without health insurance, that is going to be difficult. If you do have insurance, I strongly suggest you go get some tests done.


    Check out Genova Diagnostics for very comprehensive testing for digestive issues:

    http://www.gdx.net/


    Thanks!

    And thank you everyone. I'm trying to fix this problem with over the counter stuff before I go to the doctor. God knows they will say "You're to young to have these problems" so I want to go in knowing I've done everything outside of their ability...
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    Nov 21, 2011 12:53 AM GMT
    Probiotics is not a one-size-fits all solution. Everyone is different. You will have to experiment to find out what works for you. It may take several weeks to see if a particular type or brand works for you.

    1. Look to see how much actual live bacteria is in the supplement. The largest amount I've ever found is in VSL #3 (http://www.vsl3.com/). This is also the most expensive probiotic I've ever found.

    2. Look for what types of bacteria are contained. It may be helpful to take more than one. You may not want to take two at the exact same time though as they might be competing with each other to become established.

    3. There is debate about whether the probiotics in both supplements and natural food can really reach in the intestines or whether most of it gets destroyed by stomach acid. From what I've read, the best way to go for probiotic foods is kefir. You can try Lifeway kefir (http://www.lifeway.net/). You can also try making your own.

    4. Fiber helps probiotic bacteria grow in your gut. Make sure you are getting enough fiber or take a psyllium fiber supplement.

    5. One of the better probiotics I've found is a soil based probiotic called Prescript-Assist Pro (https://www.researchednutritionals.com/store/item.cfm?code=CRN121). To order this probiotic, you have to your doctor's office call the company, but it's not actually a prescription.
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    Nov 21, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidProbiotics is not a one-size-fits all solution. Everyone is different. You will have to experiment to find out what works for you. It may take several weeks to see if a particular type or brand works for you.

    1. Look to see how much actual live bacteria is in the supplement. The largest amount I've ever found is in VSL #3 (http://www.vsl3.com/). This is also the most expensive probiotic I've ever found.

    2. Look for what types of bacteria are contained. It may be helpful to take more than one. You may not want to take two at the exact same time though as they might be competing with each other to become established.

    3. There is debate about whether the probiotics in both supplements and natural food can really reach in the intestines or whether most of it gets destroyed by stomach acid. From what I've read, the best way to go for probiotic foods is kefir. You can try Lifeway kefir (http://www.lifeway.net/). You can also try making your own.

    4. Fiber helps probiotic bacteria grow in your gut. Make sure you are getting enough fiber or take a psyllium fiber supplement.

    5. One of the better probiotics I've found is a soil based probiotic called Prescript-Assist Pro (https://www.researchednutritionals.com/store/item.cfm?code=CRN121). To order this probiotic, you have to your doctor's office call the company, but it's not actually a prescription.


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    Nov 21, 2011 1:26 AM GMT
    I don't want to overload your brain, but here are a few more you could try.

    1. Align (http://www.aligngi.com/)
    2. Digestive Advantage - Intensive Bowel Support (http://www.digestiveadvantage.com/)
    3. Digestive Advantage - Lactose Defensive Formula (http://www.digestiveadvantage.com/)

    I know people who like the Align probiotic. The other two were recommended to me by a gastroenterologist for my lactose intolerance. I don't know that they helped much, but I haven't been brave enough to test my lactose limits.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Nov 22, 2011 6:53 PM GMT
    Some men also have yeast in their gut. See a Gastro Dr. to find out the cause.
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    Nov 22, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
    Goats milk and carrot 50/50 juice is a great restorative . And shallowing a garlic glove a few times a week works wonders as well.