Boeing 787 manufacturing turning corner...

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    Nov 22, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
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    Nov 23, 2011 10:14 PM GMT
    cfrp manufacturing is also taking a turn
    as are new aluminum-lithium alloys
    both Alcoa and Rio Tinto/Constellium have new al-li alloys that are supposedly superior to cfrp in terms of weight savings and aerodynamic efficiencies... or so they claim. However, Embraer has signed a deal to re-build their E-Jet family with Alcoa and Bombardier (and to a lesser extent Airbus) are using the new airware al-li alloys for their new programs.
    It really makes you wonder if the 787 will be a one-off oddity in aviation history or if cfrp aircraft will continue to evolve and out-perform the new alloys...
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    Nov 28, 2011 11:58 PM GMT
    k3l3k0 saidcfrp manufacturing is also taking a turn
    as are new aluminum-lithium alloys
    both Alcoa and Rio Tinto/Constellium have new al-li alloys that are supposedly superior to cfrp in terms of weight savings and aerodynamic efficiencies... or so they claim. However, Embraer has signed a deal to re-build their E-Jet family with Alcoa and Bombardier (and to a lesser extent Airbus) are using the new airware al-li alloys for their new programs.
    It really makes you wonder if the 787 will be a one-off oddity in aviation history or if cfrp aircraft will continue to evolve and out-perform the new alloys...


    What would they be doing to the Embraer family?

    I fly on Embraers quite a bit and would be interested to hear this...
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    Nov 29, 2011 12:00 AM GMT
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    k3l3k0 said
    It really makes you wonder if the 787 will be a one-off oddity in aviation history or if cfrp aircraft will continue to evolve and out-perform the new alloys...



    I made a similar comment on airliners.net about a week ago. Good to see someone else thought the same!


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    Nov 29, 2011 12:13 AM GMT
    running11 said
    k3l3k0 saidcfrp manufacturing is also taking a turn
    as are new aluminum-lithium alloys
    both Alcoa and Rio Tinto/Constellium have new al-li alloys that are supposedly superior to cfrp in terms of weight savings and aerodynamic efficiencies... or so they claim. However, Embraer has signed a deal to re-build their E-Jet family with Alcoa and Bombardier (and to a lesser extent Airbus) are using the new airware al-li alloys for their new programs.
    It really makes you wonder if the 787 will be a one-off oddity in aviation history or if cfrp aircraft will continue to evolve and out-perform the new alloys...


    What would they be doing to the Embraer family?

    I fly on Embraers quite a bit and would be interested to hear this...


    Embraer is going to use new stronger and lighter aluminum lithium alloys developed in cooperation with Alcoa. This will reduce weight and also reduce the drag co-efficient of the aircraft. The new metals will be used on at least the fuselage and wings to my knowledge. There is talk that they could go cfrp on some parts of the new Embraer Jets. New engines as well. Combined, these changes could provide a nearly 30% reduction in fuel consumption and make the planes 4x quieter than current Embraer jets. As well, the new alloys are much stronger and resistant to humidity - allowing for higher cabin pressure and humidity. The air will be fresher and there will be less fatigue/ear/sinus issues. The same can be said for the 787. a350 and I think the CSeries from Bombardier as well.

    Flying will be much more comfortable by 2018 onward icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 29, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    k3l3k0 said
    It really makes you wonder if the 787 will be a one-off oddity in aviation history or if cfrp aircraft will continue to evolve and out-perform the new alloys...



    I made a similar comment on airliners.net about a week ago. Good to see someone else thought the same!


    oh did you? haha ya I really do think the 787 could end up a one-off oddity... but with the new advancements in AL-Li alloys I'm sure those in the plastics industry will look for ways to improve their products so as to not be out-done.