SPAIN: Anti-Gay Party Wins Control Of Parliament, Gay Marriage Imperiled

  • metta

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    Nov 23, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    SPAIN: Anti-Gay Party Wins Control Of Parliament, Gay Marriage Imperiled

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/11/spain-anti-gay-party-wins-control-of.html
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    Nov 23, 2011 3:08 AM GMT
    I really doubt Rajoy and PP will do anything about same-sex marriage. That would be pretty tough to undo. Anywho, Rajoy isn't really that threatening. He's a dumbass, but otherwise harmless. He's no Aznar, that's for sure.

    Their campaign has mainly focused on dealing with the financial crisis and terrible job market that PSOE hasn't deal with too well so far. Besides, Spain has a lot of other problems to worry about.
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    Nov 23, 2011 9:22 AM GMT
    My husband and I were married under the law. Our jestora assured us that the state can not take that away once we were legally married so we are safe. Anyone in Spain that is considering getting married should do it now before they have a chance to overturn the law. The PP may not do it at all, although they did gain an absolute majority in Parliament. They probably will overturn the part of the law that allows gay couples to adopt children. That issue is more explosive than marriage. Also, they may decide to just get rid of the word marriage and keep a similar civil union. We will see.
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    Nov 23, 2011 10:54 AM GMT
    the PP are not the GOP. It would be surprising if they chose now to start trying to repeal gay rights... Spain is in serious serious economic trouble and there is simply not the popular level evangelical (or even catholic) hate which you find in the USA- the right wing in Europe is just a little further right than Obama, and in some cases further left (the UK coalition is now working on gay marriage)
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    Nov 23, 2011 12:31 PM GMT
    Closet fags are running Spain now?
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    Nov 23, 2011 1:09 PM GMT
    So now instead of the rain in Spain falling mainly on the plain, it rains on the gays' parade?

    I guess that's how the political pendulum swings. Look at how America vacillates between Democratic and Republican victories in elections. It works that way everywhere, apparently.

    If I were in Spain, I would have voted United Left.icon_cool.gif






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    Nov 23, 2011 4:42 PM GMT
    Which policy advocated by the PP is anti-gay?
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    Nov 23, 2011 4:46 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidthe PP are not the GOP. It would be surprising if they chose now to start trying to repeal gay rights... Spain is in serious serious economic trouble and there is simply not the popular level evangelical (or even catholic) hate which you find in the USA- the right wing in Europe is just a little further right than Obama, and in some cases further left (the UK coalition is now working on gay marriage)


    The "Rightwing" of Europe is more nationalistic and not very religious. Being pro gay marriage or anti gay marriage really has nothing to do with being "left" or "right". It is simply a wedge issue that was exploited by the American rightwing.
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    Nov 24, 2011 4:48 AM GMT
    Start by letting go of Catalunya, Basque Country, Galicia, Andalusia, and Canary Islands! It's not worth staying with the kingdom anymore icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 24, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhich policy advocated by the PP is anti-gay?


    During the election campaign, Rajoy stated that they would overturn the gay rights law passed by the PSOE and other leftist parties soon after they came to power. The PP is a rightist party and has the support of the Catholic church in Spain, Historically, they were the party that was born out of the Franco movement. Franco was infamous for his Nazi sympathizing during WWII. It is true that the most of the conservative parties in Europe are more socially liberal than the major parties in the States but I would not set the PP here in Spain just to the right of Obama.
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    Nov 24, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
    I feel like Rajoy is mostly talk. He throws out threats like overturning same-sex marriage and all, but I can't see him actually pulling that off.

    I find it ironic that Rajoy, being a Galician, is even a member of PP considering the Franco association and Franco's policies against everything not Castilian.
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    Nov 24, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
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    pocketnico saidI really doubt Rajoy and PP will do anything about same-sex marriage. That would be pretty tough to undo. Anywho, Rajoy isn't really that threatening. He's a dumbass, but otherwise harmless. He's no Aznar, that's for sure.

    Their campaign has mainly focused on dealing with the financial crisis and terrible job market that PSOE hasn't deal with too well so far. Besides, Spain has a lot of other problems to worry about.



    Yep. So how is, according to the title of this topic, "Gay Marriage Imperiled?"



    As Reuters is reporting, [Prime Minister-elect Mariano] Rajoy has said he supports civil unions for same-sex couples, but does not think they should be called marriages. [His} Popular Party has lodged an appeal against the nation's 2005 law allowing gay marriage in the Constitutional Court.


    I realize many conservatives have a pathological need to defend bigotry, but I am always surprised when they don't seem to know about Google.
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    Nov 24, 2011 7:33 PM GMT
    Now what to do about all those Romanians, Moroccans, and Colombians taking away Spanish jobs icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 24, 2011 7:35 PM GMT
    Dont u think it has more to do with the economic situation in spain that this party wins the elections?
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    Nov 24, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    Daelin saidDont u think it has more to do with the economic situation in spain that this party wins the elections?


    Definitely so. I've read too many depressing and frustrating articles about the Spanish economy and job market as of late. It makes me not regret having given up my Spanish citizenship when I turned 18.
  • metta

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    Nov 24, 2011 7:56 PM GMT

    Spanish gay boys kiss on Al Jazeera to protest new anti-gay right-wing government

    http://gay.americablog.com/2011/11/spanish-gay-boys-kiss-on-al-jazeera-to.html

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    Nov 24, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    Next thing you know, Catalans, Basques, and Galicians won't be allowed to speak their language anymore...just like during the times of Franco.
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    Nov 24, 2011 8:01 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    Spanish gay boys kiss on Al Jazeera to protest new anti-gay right-wing government

    http://gay.americablog.com/2011/11/spanish-gay-boys-kiss-on-al-jazeera-to.html



    Thank you very much for that. Something to be thankful for on this Thanksgiving Day. Super LOL
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    Nov 24, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    Spanish gay boys kiss on Al Jazeera to protest new anti-gay right-wing government

    http://gay.americablog.com/2011/11/spanish-gay-boys-kiss-on-al-jazeera-to.html



    LOL! Damn! That got me rather happy in the pants.
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    Nov 24, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
    pocketnico said
    Daelin saidDont u think it has more to do with the economic situation in spain that this party wins the elections?


    Definitely so. I've read too many depressing and frustrating articles about the Spanish economy and job market as of late. It makes me not regret having given up my Spanish citizenship when I turned 18.


    hmm spanish citizenship gives u easy entry itno the EU though. I would never give up my Dutch citizenship. Its part of who I am...