anyone with pain in cervical area?

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    Nov 24, 2011 4:09 AM GMT
    I know this is probably not the right place to ask this question but I am just trying to see if there are others suffering from the same problem that I am .

    I suffer from stiff and painful muscles around the spine between shoulder blades and base of the neck. Doctors have been unable to diagnose the problem. A neurosurgeon said I have a minor protrusion in C4-C5 and C5-C6 but my general practitioner doctor thinks it cannot be that since my pain does not radiate away from the spine. He thinks all I need it some deep tissue massage and strength training for back muscles.

    I am working with a personal trainer now but he is not having a whole lot of success either.

    I wonder if there are people suffering from the same problem.

    It seems like the pain is under control as long as my back gets some exercise. The pain comes back as soon as I sit down for work for 3-4 hours straight.

    Once exercise that seems to help a lot is the seated chest press on the machine with cables. One thing that makes it worse is sitting down Indian style and with upper body and head slouched forward.

    This trouble is literally killing me now. I am suffering from this for 2 years now.

  • frankyzhang

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    Dec 02, 2011 4:24 AM GMT
    well, i am not 100% sure untill i see you, however, your condition sounds like the whole erea from c4~T5 or 6 has muscle injuries. it could be you have sitted for too long with a round neck and upper back, we have some muscle come long beside our spines called erector spinae, which is a grounp of muscles with different length, if they are overstreched problem comes, feel your shoulder blades, if the distance inbetween is bigger than normal people, it pretty much is the case, you need to do some gental back bend to just open the chest, make sure you dont use the lower back muscles to do the back bend, find a iyengar or anusara style yoga teacher for help, and if you come to china, i can help.:p
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:45 AM GMT
    LMAO.. I thought this thread was about your cervix!
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    Dec 02, 2011 7:06 AM GMT
    Cervical indicates your neck. I think you meant lumbar.icon_idea.gif
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    Dec 02, 2011 1:10 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidCervical indicates your neck. I think you meant lumbar.icon_idea.gif


    He means cervical and has used the term appropriately.
    The are 7 cervical vertebral bodies, numbered C1-C7.
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    Dec 02, 2011 1:11 PM GMT
    Sounds like bad posture is the culprit... have you tried getting a lumbar support? Also, get up and stretch often.
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    Dec 02, 2011 1:17 PM GMT
    I have some arthritis in my neck, apparently mostly caused by the weight of motorcycle helmets over the years. You don't realize it while riding, but constant bumps and road motions place a lot of strain on your neck, as this weight is coming down on you.

    Since I don't think you ride, I've also noticed that sitting in front of a computer monitor for hours on end can cause neck problems. Solutions include a change in chair to modify your posture, taking more frequent breaks, and exercises and massage. A PT or MT familiar with this problem might be good for you.
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    Dec 02, 2011 2:25 PM GMT
    Thanks for the response guys.

    Art_Deco, I have been trying those things and it seems they temporarily relieve the pain but never improve it.

    FrankyZhang: The only backbend I know is from Bikram's routine, which requires you to bend from the waist:

    bob_backbend_300x362.jpg

    Is that what you were talking about? What exactly should I be looking for in iyengar or anusara?
  • MikemikeMike

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    Dec 03, 2011 9:13 AM GMT
    Longblack said
    MikemikeMike saidCervical indicates your neck. I think you meant lumbar.icon_idea.gif


    He means cervical and has used the term appropriately.
    The are 7 cervical vertebral bodies, numbered C1-C7.


    Yes but the pain he describes when sitting is in his thorasic. Not just in his neck. 80% of people have some minor cervical protrusion. Many from birth,sports, accidents, esp car accidents.icon_idea.gif Could just be a pinched nerve. Have you had an MRI of your spine?
    See a better Dr. One that won't just give you pain meds and anti- inflamitory drugs.

    Google posturing muscles. Try to strengthen them when you feel better! Have you seen a chiropractor? I never thought they could help but I had pain between my shoulder blades. It wrapped around to my sternum following a car accident. I had three visits to a well known Chiro in NYC and the pain in the chest/sternum was gone. He said I had a rib out and that was causing the sternum pain. I have never been back to him, but I keep his card. I got help with my neck from a Cranial Sacroil therapist, she gave me very slight adjustments and a list of exercises to do twice a day. I saw her for about 6 weeks twice a week. The one stetching exercise that really helped was facing a corner of a wall with a 90 dergee angle and placing my hands against the wall at chest height leaning in toward the corner. Yoga helped me as well!!!
    I keep my back muscles strong by stretching, moving and working out in a Roman Chair at the gym. I grab a 25-45 plate and raise up and down slowly and controlled! I also throw in a few side seated oblique crunches in the same chair with my knees slightly bent and my hip against the pad with my feet one in front of the other placing them against the ankle roller pads. I put my hands behing my head or in front of me to throw in a punch and start facing lateral then coming up and twisting to a 45 degree angle. Great for the lower back.

    Get help- Feel better, so you can get back to the gym pain free.
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    Dec 03, 2011 4:15 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike said***


    Thanks for writing back, really appreciate it. Glad to hear that those efforts are working for you. Would you say you are 100% pain free?

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    Dec 03, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
    GO TO THE DOCTOR.
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    Dec 03, 2011 4:51 PM GMT
    Haaretz saidGO TO THE DOCTOR.


    ?? I said I have seen several doctors (chiro, PT, neurosurgeon, gp, yoga, astronomer, and also a personal trainer). Asking for and considering other people's advice wouldn't hurt.
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    Dec 03, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    What does this mean?

    You saidI have a minor protrusion in C4-C5 and C5-C6
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    Dec 03, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidWhat does this mean?

    You saidI have a minor protrusion in C4-C5 and C5-C6


    The discs in between those vertebrae protrude a little bit. Somewhat like this but not as much:

    IRM_protrusion_discale.PNG

    But there is no herniation yet.
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    Dec 03, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    I was given information about a chiropractor group in this area who I think deals with this type of issue. They aren't like regular chiropractors. They have a special machine that pushes everything back into place. I never went because my problem resolved itself. I'll try to find the information, but it was over a year ago.
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    Dec 03, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    This is what I found. Take a look at the "Atlas Orthogonal Technique." I can't be certain this would help your problem, but it's worth investigating. Try this office (http://www.atlasspineartscenter.com/), which is located in Springfield. I've never been. I was told not to go to the guy in Centreville. I'm not sure why.
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    Dec 03, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
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    Dec 03, 2011 5:51 PM GMT
    Awesome. Thanks! I am going to take a look.
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    Dec 05, 2011 8:33 AM GMT
    Advaya said
    MikemikeMike said***


    Thanks for writing back, really appreciate it. Glad to hear that those efforts are working for you. Would you say you are 100% pain free?



    Not 100% but I'd say mid 90's. I can play most sports and I am not in pain in the gym.

    After my car accident I felt dizzy for a few months. That was 8 yrs ago a lot better now.

    Make sure you practice good posture. Every morning I get on all fours extend my right arm and opposite leg and hold it for a few seconds then switch. Head facing down and elongate my spine and neck.
    Google posturing exercises. Feel better.
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    Dec 05, 2011 8:36 AM GMT
    TropicalMark saidLMAO.. I thought this thread was about your cervix!


    thats what I was thinking... Im really glad I kept my mouth shut.
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    Dec 05, 2011 8:47 AM GMT
    TropicalMark saidLMAO.. I thought this thread was about your cervix!


    lol, i can't blame you. icon_eek.gif
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    Dec 05, 2011 8:55 AM GMT
    Hey, There seems little to no herniation or leaking of the nucleus pulposus fluid in the IV disc. This may be a hunch considering you've gone to the neuro and GP already. I'd say it's the excessive time spent on the computer or sitting at work for over 4 hours a day accumulating to the so called "pain in the neck". If I'm not mistaken the pain is in the back of the neck and upper shoulder, usually heavier or prominently sorer on the one side (right) and by the supraspinatus muscle if you notches?

    Rx: try massaging the area and rubbing the "stress nots" out like your GP said or go to a physiotherapist to relief that pain (believe me it's amazing / better than spa treatment massage)

    Good luck.
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    Dec 05, 2011 2:25 PM GMT
    Layfon_wang saidHey, There seems little to no herniation or leaking of the nucleus pulposus fluid in the IV disc. This may be a hunch considering you've gone to the neuro and GP already. I'd say it's the excessive time spent on the computer or sitting at work for over 4 hours a day accumulating to the so called "pain in the neck". If I'm not mistaken the pain is in the back of the neck and upper shoulder, usually heavier or prominently sorer on the one side (right) and by the supraspinatus muscle if you notches?

    Rx: try massaging the area and rubbing the "stress nots" out like your GP said or go to a physiotherapist to relief that pain (believe me it's amazing / better than spa treatment massage)

    Good luck.


    Your description is right on point. It's really hard to massage on those pain spots myself. I will probably need to find a better PT than my last one.

    Thanks for the advice!
  • MikemikeMike

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    Dec 05, 2011 6:13 PM GMT
    Maybe a good TENS unit would help. Google them. Most insurance will cover them. You can even buy them on E-bay.
  • Latenight30

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    Dec 05, 2011 6:23 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidLMAO.. I thought this thread was about your cervix!

    x2
    talk about a thread from a Troll.
    But spinal issues need immediate attention.