Airlines May Start Treating Passengers `Like Freight'

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    Jun 04, 2008 8:19 PM GMT
    LMFAO! Too bad there's no discount for being particularly fit.

    `Like Freight'
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    Jun 04, 2008 8:34 PM GMT
    Well to be perfectly blunt we are freight! Considering that jet fuel is now north of $3 per US gallon, airlines are getting desperate. If I was the President of United or American I would be tempted to charge a 400 lb. male more than a 125 lb. female, after all the heavier person is weighing down the plane more which results in higher fuel burn.

    I would not be at all surprised if one of the big US airlines this year goes out of business entirely. They must be gobbling up their cash very quickly.
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    Jun 05, 2008 7:14 AM GMT
    I love the fact that Southwest is brave enough to make overly large individuals buy 2 tickets.. it just makes sense.


    No one wants someone's fat roll resting on their leg while enjoying the inflight movie.. it's just disgusting.
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    Jun 11, 2008 1:30 AM GMT
    Maybe airlines should charge all passengers by weight.

    Or, would a national anorexia epidemic be an unintended consequence?

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    Jun 14, 2008 1:27 AM GMT
    John43620 saidMaybe airlines should charge all passengers by weight.

    Or, would a national anorexia epidemic be an unintended consequence?



    Shit I would turn anorexic to go to the Bahamas for $30.00
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    Jun 14, 2008 1:33 AM GMT
    No big shocker-

    In the 50's and 60's, passenger intercity rail gave way to freight-only operations because the railroads discovered that moving passengers was more costly than moving stuff....

    I travel constantly for work - and witness nothing short of embarrassing behavior from passengers who fail to understand that an airline ticket is only a contract to get them from A to B ... no peanuts, sodas, movies required...nor is it the carrier's fault that they have to pay for high gasoline!

    Keep in mind, it's not the front-line personnel who are making these decisions - please, be kind to that ticket agent or flight attendant...




    As far as the COS, or "Customer of Size" as Southwest puts it, I applaud them for requiring one with additional girth to purchase an additional seat. I've had seatmates spill out not just OVER, but UNDER the armrest. Eeeeeewwww....
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    Jun 14, 2008 1:42 AM GMT
    I say if you take up two seats, you pay for two seats.

    I am ready to be treated like cargo...I just hope I am stacked on top of some hotties.
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    Jun 14, 2008 1:49 AM GMT
    COJock1974 saidKeep in mind, it's not the front-line personnel who are making these decisions - please, be kind to that ticket agent or flight attendant...

    Haha - so true, Cojo. I've been bumped up to first class in re-booking just because I didn't scream at the gate person like the 10 people before me.
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    Jun 14, 2008 1:51 AM GMT
    If I treated my clients like "freight" I would be out of business. Sorry to say this - but there will probably be more mergers and bankruptcies in the airline industry. BTW - I just flew Delta to Europe and they are far and above the rest in service.
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    Jun 14, 2008 1:56 AM GMT
    pdxboxer saidI say if you take up two seats, you pay for two seats.

    I am ready to be treated like cargo...I just hope I am stacked on top of some hotties.


    Say that after a 19 hour flight when you haven't seen any attendants in the past 6 hours and would like a bottle of water... yes - it did happen to me on a Europen flight a couple of years ago - and I'll never fly that airline again (American). Damn - am I venting or what??? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 14, 2008 2:03 AM GMT
    this sucks, but honestly they are doing what they must at the moment to stay in business. the airline industry was not built to support these high fuel prices. quite frankly, i would prefer this rather than no flight at all.
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    Jun 14, 2008 2:12 AM GMT
    The US airlines have already started to charge for that extra bag, and talking about charging you for the first one too. Shame so much of the world likes to follow the US of A......

    Has no one here traveled in cattle class?
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    Jun 17, 2008 3:12 PM GMT
    Pattison I have always travelled "cattle" class as you put it. Only twice I have got into business class. Once because I was bumped from an earlier flight, and the other time was in 2006 but economy was overbooked. That flight nearly crashed so being in business class was really not appreciated!

    I read last night on an aviation website that US Airways is projecting to spend $1.9 BILLION more on jet fuel this year than last year. I don't know how these airlines are going to keep flying their revenue cannot keep up with their costs.
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    Jun 17, 2008 3:25 PM GMT
    TonkaTruck23 saidI love the fact that Southwest is brave enough to make overly large individuals buy 2 tickets.. it just makes sense.
    No one wants someone's fat roll resting on their leg while enjoying the inflight movie.. it's just disgusting.
    Just had to deal with this last week. Family flew back east for a funeral and our seats were not together. When we got on the plane, one seat was a window with a man that was at least 400 pounds in the middle and his wife (slightly overweight) in the aisle seat. My wife took the seat (suppose to be my 13 yr old, nope I didn't jump to volunteer). My wife is in very good shape and this guy was already sitting in both seats when we got there. He had to move his belt extender. I spoke to the flight attendant (quietly and discreetly I thought, but my wife indicated that she heard every word) about reseating my wife. Ended up the plane had 1 (yep only one) seat empty and my wife moved but she would have been really cramped sitting next to this guy. The worse part was not his weight, it was the smell. Even in the row in front of this man, it was bad! I could have dealt with the weight issue but damn, showers work for ALL sizes!
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    Jun 17, 2008 3:46 PM GMT
    The guy probably had showered but because of his weight problem he probably was sweating like a pig!

    You and your wife have my sympathies, that sounds like the flight from hell. The only thing worse is to be stuck near a kid that is having ear problems and is screeching (and I mean screeching).
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    Jun 17, 2008 3:56 PM GMT
    Too many Planes in the sky!!! Cut back is what I say!

    Maybe start a New Airline called "BLOBAIR"

    The the overweights can fly them and pay more?
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    Jun 27, 2008 4:01 AM GMT
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    Jun 27, 2008 5:03 AM GMT
    It really does make sense. But as someone who LOVES to travel, and takes up a lot of room on an airplane, it would be a total bummer to have to pay a lot more than the 5' woman next to me.
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    Jun 27, 2008 6:41 AM GMT
    A recent experience on British Airways.

    I arrived at Gatwick airport holding a business class return ticket to Italy. When I went to pay for a date change on my ticket I was sold the date change £69 or $140. After I had paid I was told that by I would be required to purchase an extra ticket with an open return to the UK because the Italian's don't allow holders of US passports to enter their country without an onward ticket.

    Having lived in Italy, as a legal resident, since 2001 I know that the Italians barely look at passports, much less onward tickets, and that no one really cares. Furthermore, I was pretty sure this was not the law.

    I requested, politely, to simply have my ticket and I went to check in. The check in proceeded as normal with my bags being processed through. Then the agent received a call from the ticket clerk telling her not to let me fly.

    In due course the manager was called and I relented, saying that if they insisted I purchase an extra ticket I would.

    The manager, as rude a person as I have ever encountered, then told me "get your bags off of the belt before you go buy the ticket".

    At that point I lost my temper. I was literally shaking trying to keep myself under control. I removed my bags from the belt, took off the barcode tag, and returned to London.

    The next day I flew on another airline, no problems whatsoever.

    Per normal, Italian immigration did not even look at the photo page of my passport, the agent opened and stamped it never interrupting his conversation with his colleague about football.

    This all involved a full far €1400 ($2200) ticket.

    While I appreciate that airline ticket counter staff have difficult jobs, the rule that says I shouldn't be rude to them applies to me too.

    Security concerns have given license to staff to treat passengers anyway that they wish with absolutely no recourse.

    Frankly, I would rather go to the dentist.

    Terry






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    Jun 27, 2008 7:09 AM GMT
    What about tall people? They should be charged extra too.