400lb 7 year old

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    Jun 04, 2008 9:03 PM GMT
    You might have seen this before but for those that haven't:




    You might have seen this before but for those that haven't:

    Should the parents be guilty of neglect for this and where do you draw the line if so? Is weight an issue that society or just the parents should deal with. I see this as an issue on who has more power: parents or the state and when the state has a right to intervene.

    As horrible as this case might be how would you determine a criteria for intervention?
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    Jun 04, 2008 9:22 PM GMT
    I think I do remember seeing this, and it is extremely depressing. I don't think there is a clear criteria out there for the Government to intervene, but it could be argued that this is child abuse. To me it is not much different then not trying to ensure that your kid is taking his/her insulin shots for diabetes, or leaving a baby in a car with the windows rolled up on a very hot day for hours.

    Perhaps the parents are not malicious, but it could be argued that they are neglectful to the extent that it is endangering their childs life. It is a pity that we can't have a competency test before human beings become parents!
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    Jun 04, 2008 9:30 PM GMT
    OMG. That poor, poor kid. I wanna kill her parents right now. I can't imagine there being any excuse whatsoever for that - that's no quality of life for her, and constitutes extreme neglect and abuse. Dammit, that makes me mad.
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    Jun 04, 2008 9:32 PM GMT
    WTF... What kind of parents must this poor kid have, that would allow something like this to happen?

    Will this child ever have a future?
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    Jun 04, 2008 9:34 PM GMT
    That is child abuse in my mind. Those parents should be put away for that. Disgusting. Obviously at seven you have no control or idea of what is reasonable. It just amazes me how many terrible parents are out there.

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    Jun 04, 2008 10:18 PM GMT
    I'm 25, 5'10" and she weighs more than double than I do! That is so fucked up. The parents are 100% responsible here and since they obviously can't handle the nutrition of a seven year old, CPS should step in. The child's weight is a clear threat to her well being and presents a serious and preventable jeopardy to her life.
    Where are they?
    The parents excuse is probably they can't handle her crying for food. That's putting their own needs first, not the child's.

    If she fell and broke both legs, and she asked them to get the rat poison from the top shelf so she could kill herself, what would their excuse be? "She really wanted it; we couldn't deny her."
    They should be taken out and whipped with canes.
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    Jun 04, 2008 10:23 PM GMT
    While there are medical syndromes that can produce serious obesity in a child that age
    it's very rare and absolutely these parents are just as guilty of neglect and abuse as if they were withholding
    a needed medication
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    Jun 04, 2008 10:35 PM GMT
    Neglect...totally. The parents need counseling. I think the threat of child protective services taking the child should be sufficient motivation to get those parents in for therapy.
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    Jun 04, 2008 10:38 PM GMT
    According to one of the web articles that discusses Jessica's case of obesity, Jessica is now 9 years old and weighing in at 150 lbs; her previous obesity has damaged her legs, meaning that she'll require surgery before she can actually handle her own bodyweight.

    Kumito - 400 Pound Jessica

    I find the video report odd in that it makes no mention of Jessica's legal guardians, how her legal guardians explain / justify her then-enormous weight,, or how her legal guardians have been dealt with by local authorities.
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    Jun 04, 2008 10:56 PM GMT
    This subject makes me a little crazy.

    My nephew was well over 400 lbs at age 7, and ended up at age 16 weighing in over 700 lbs.

    His heart gave out, and he died at 16.
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    Jun 05, 2008 7:55 AM GMT
    omg jprichva. icon_sad.gif

    Was it his parents?
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    Jun 05, 2008 12:16 PM GMT
    How does it get that bad. The parents would have to feed her constantly. I had a cousin that was on the verge of being really big. I think her parents finally listened to everyone and changed her diet. I believe she is in high school now but not as big as she use to be.
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    Jun 05, 2008 12:24 PM GMT
    I'm actually more disgusted with shows like The Insider which package this sort of thing as 'shock entertainment,' enabling the many also overweight viewers to feel better about themselves because they aren't that bad. Or to allow derision for the situation when we're not even given the full sheet of facts. The video is engineered to manipulate your emotions and reactions. And while of course we should feel distress and anger in regard to her situation, I watch it and question what on earth it's doing on this type of show. Did the parents/guardians accept money for this 'access'? Are they trying to help her or just treating her as the latest and greatest 'freak' for said shock entertainment.

    I've had to stop watching entertainment shows. And I love gossip...but about trashy celebrities and famous fools. Not pre-teens in life threatening situations.
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    Jun 14, 2008 10:46 PM GMT
    It's not my business to tell her mom and dad how to parent -- so I don't feel it's right for me to blame them.

    I hope that with psychological and physical recuperation, she can lose the weight before it has any long-term, negative health effects.

    It's up to HER and HER ALONE to CHOOSE to lose weight and make the choice not to eat so much.
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    Jun 14, 2008 11:02 PM GMT
    Proof breeding should not be a given right. But licenced and asset tested.
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    Jun 15, 2008 12:03 AM GMT
    That kid needs a personal trainer and I mean yesterday.
    .............................Personal Trainer
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    Jun 15, 2008 12:09 AM GMT
    Trance said, "I see this as an issue on who has more power: parents or the state and when the state has a right to intervene."

    How is this a political situation?

    To answer your question, people's rights end where the next person's rights begin. Obviously, the child had a right to good nutrition and health.
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    Jun 15, 2008 12:20 AM GMT
    um, the parents let her eat her way to that state, but SHE ate the truckloads of cheap preservative-filled food it musta taken. if she was tied to a chair and the food was rammed down her gullet i think they'd have mentioned it in the video clip and the parents would already be in jail. this is sad, and frightening, and is certainly indicative of the poor quality of food most americans stuff themselves with, as well as of the eating disorders that have developed in our society- this being an extreme case. i think it says a lot about our culture. but i can't sit here and think 'oh poor little girl'... (first of all she's not little lol) u hear her in the video asking for more popcorn for cryin' out loud :p its grotesque and turns my stomach- but there's no room for too much sympathy. its not like she was born that way, and the parents part in it goes far but only so far.. she did it to herself- other 7 year olds have endless access to crappy food and get fat... but they know when to stop even without parents telling them to- its taught in preschool that fatty foods make you a fatty, and she had growing... evidence... to indicate as much. ultimately, nothing passes through human lips without their consent.


    fat chick getting fater


    maybe she likes the attention. lol

    don't get me wrong, i still think the parents should be jailed for negligence.
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    Jun 15, 2008 12:21 AM GMT
    And people wonder why the cost of health care and medical care is increasing so fast? Who will be paying for all of this kid's medical care - you can bet it's not going to be her parents/guardians...
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    Jun 15, 2008 12:31 AM GMT
    When I was seven, my mother only gave me candy on birthdays and holidays-thanks mom!!

    As for the person who is blaming the child: wrong. She cannot judge what is right for her or pick the foods that are best for her. We are fitness conscious adults and read labels. She probably can't even spell -carbohydrate- let alone know what it means. Yeah, maybe she likes to eat a lot, but she can't stuff her face with cheetos, Coca-Cola, popcorn, and Orange Chicken if IT IS NOT IN THE HOUSE!! The parents are her guardians and should stock the cupboards with nutritious and healthy foods, not crap.

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    Jun 15, 2008 1:14 AM GMT
    This is neglect on the basis of malnourishment - period. It is a preventable, life-threatening condition. This is like forcing your kid to smoke 2 packs of cigarettes a day or sustaining them on a diet of lollipops. The government is within its Constitutional right to intervene if due judicial and executive processes are followed. I can't help but think about how her cardiovascular system is under such enormous stress. Poor kid. These parents need to serve some time and / or have their child removed from their custody.

    -Nick
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    Jun 15, 2008 1:26 AM GMT
    GG- you nailed it buddy.icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 15, 2008 1:45 AM GMT
    They don't call them parental guardians for nothin.
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    Jun 15, 2008 1:46 AM GMT
    Imagine the vagina that popped out of.
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    Jun 15, 2008 1:56 AM GMT
    McGay saidImagine the vagina that popped out of.


    (gasp) Be Nice, McGay.