Has anyone tried Clen?

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    Jun 04, 2008 11:39 PM GMT
    My friend told me I should try it. I did a lot of reading on it and can't really find out if it works or where I can get it from.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jun 04, 2008 11:47 PM GMT
    Why do you want to take it icon_question.gif
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    Jun 04, 2008 11:53 PM GMT
    I would like to lose 10 lbs that I have not been able to lose. I jog 3-5 miles 4 times a week and also swim a lot but it doesnt seem to want to come off.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jun 05, 2008 12:03 AM GMT
    Well, I know nothing about it, but I don't agree with using stuff like that, unless you have a medical condition that requires it.

    I'm no expert on losing fat either, but there are lots of guys here that can help with good advice on what to do. I would ask them first before using any stuff like that.

    I presume your photo will give us an idea of what you call fat? I say it that way, because I hear some guys saying they are fat, when in my opinion they are not icon_smile.gif

    Mike

    Edit, Sorry vcdylan, you did not say fat icon_redface.gif
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    Jun 05, 2008 12:08 AM GMT
    lol FAT... My friend told me to try it so I've been looking out for it icon_biggrin.gif
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jun 05, 2008 12:18 AM GMT
    Seriously, I don't think you need it icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 05, 2008 1:15 AM GMT
    You say you jog 3-5 miles 4 times a week, and swim a lot... but what's your diet like?

    Exercise isn't going to help you if you don't have a decent diet.
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    Jun 05, 2008 1:20 AM GMT
    Diet isn't to bad, not it could be a lot better icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 05, 2008 3:10 AM GMT
    Bro, there is no way in hell I am going to tell you where to get it, because its not a legal substance in the United States. Like most other things it will work for awhile. I need to caution you though, DO NOT use this without knowing damn sure you know where to get it, how to cycle it, what to use so it continues to work longer then a few weeks - although you may not need it to work much longer, potential side effects, how to deal with those side effects if they occur, how to come off it, and everything about it. Clen can be a very unforgiving drug if you screw something like the dose up. You can seriously hurt yourself or even potentially kill yourself if you start doing illegal substances that you don't know about in every way.

    Also, its probably way easier to clean up the diet and get that very clean before you try something with the power of Clen, if you have ever tried ephedrine, this is much more powerful and you are quite likely to have the shakes, sweats, insomnia, etc., like ephedrine times 10.

    If you do decide to ignore the warnings and use it, be sure to start with very small doses and taper up over a number of days. Also, make sure you have someone who has used it before and knows the stuff for sure, so you have someone you trust to ask about it as you get going. Last, before you buy this off some local meathead you should be damn sure you know what it looks like and that you are getting the real thing and not some worthless or hazardous other substance.

    Good luck man.
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    Jun 05, 2008 3:10 AM GMT
    PS: with no disrespect to your friend, this piece of absolutely terrible advice should disqualify him from dispensing further advice.
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    Jun 05, 2008 3:18 AM GMT
    ^^

    Smart man. It's a very powerful drug and you need to know exactly how to cycle it and how to come off it before you even think about using it.

    That said, very useful to lose and build muscle. But, you need to clean your diet up before using anything like that.

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    Jun 05, 2008 3:29 AM GMT
    I will just reiterate what others have said in regards to diet and research. It is very powerful and not just some miracle cure for fat. I have cycled on it and, to be honest, did not do enough research.

    There are some serious side effects. In addition to your regular upper drug side effects that can harm the heart, you will get the shakes and it causes very painful cramping.
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    Jun 05, 2008 3:50 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidIt's more of a thermogenic than a muscle builder. It's only dangerous if you take extremely high doses. I've taken it before. You can only cycle it on for roughly 2 weeks and then cycle off or you saturate your receptor sites for this drug and then it is basically a waste.

    If your diet isn't perfectly laid out then don't bother with it. If you're going out for cheese burgers and pizza throughout the week then it's just throwing your money away to be taking this stuff.

    It's considered an "aid" not a wonder do it all drug cuz your lazy ass can''t eat well. icon_eek.gif


    I am not lazy and I never said I eat badly. I could eat better or more often. I tend not to eat breakfast and don't eat in til around 2 sometime I do get a smoothie before lunch sometimes. I've done a lot of reading on Clen and there are lots of sites that say they sell it, but I don't want to spend $100+ if its not the real thing.
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    Jun 05, 2008 3:51 AM GMT
    YngHungSFSD saidBro, there is no way in hell I am going to tell you where to get it, because its not a legal substance in the United States. Like most other things it will work for awhile. I need to caution you though, DO NOT use this without knowing damn sure you know where to get it, how to cycle it, what to use so it continues to work longer then a few weeks - although you may not need it to work much longer, potential side effects, how to deal with those side effects if they occur, how to come off it, and everything about it. Clen can be a very unforgiving drug if you screw something like the dose up. You can seriously hurt yourself or even potentially kill yourself if you start doing illegal substances that you don't know about in every way.

    Also, its probably way easier to clean up the diet and get that very clean before you try something with the power of Clen, if you have ever tried ephedrine, this is much more powerful and you are quite likely to have the shakes, sweats, insomnia, etc., like ephedrine times 10.

    If you do decide to ignore the warnings and use it, be sure to start with very small doses and taper up over a number of days. Also, make sure you have someone who has used it before and knows the stuff for sure, so you have someone you trust to ask about it as you get going. Last, before you buy this off some local meathead you should be damn sure you know what it looks like and that you are getting the real thing and not some worthless or hazardous other substance.

    Good luck man.



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    Jun 05, 2008 2:20 PM GMT
    yeah... skipping breakfast is a big no no if you are looking to lose weight. And not eating til 2pm puts your body into starvation mode. It seems like you have to get your diet down before you start trying to add aids to help you lose weight. And when I say diet, I don't just mean what you eat; I mean when you eat, how much you eat and how often. One other word of advice is to get liquid clen. It is much easier to control your dosage than the pill form. Again, this stuff is really not useful to the average joe. Bodybuilders and experienced lifters use it because they have done research and cycling through legal and illegal supplements is something that they have experience with. I think you would have great results by eating 6 small meals a day, upping your protein and doing resistance based cardio. Anytime you are looking to achieve something big you should start with the natural way and then assess where you are and if you need to go with a chemical approach. There are many legal products that will help you get to your goals, but you need to up your muscle mass and eat right if you are going to even start. Otherwise you will lose your gains and waste money.
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    Jun 05, 2008 2:42 PM GMT
    David22 saidDiet isn't to bad, not it could be a lot better icon_biggrin.gif




    AHA! "Isn't too bad"??? Well, there ya go...that "isn't too bad" part is what's keeping that last 10 lbs on your frame. All the Clen in the world (whatever that is, have no idea) won't keep the weight off if your diet isn't cleaned up.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jun 05, 2008 5:34 PM GMT
    icon_eek.gif I don't believe there are guys here advising David on how to take Clen icon_eek.gif

    He does not need it. No one does. And this on a "HEALTH" website icon_rolleyes.gif

    Have some respect for your body. Eat properly and you will be fine.

    Don't take this the wrong way, but if friends are advising you to use this stuff, then I would think twice about calling them friends. I know I'm going to get a smack for saying that, but I'm just giving my honest opinion icon_smile.gif Don't hit too hard, I bruise easily icon_smile.gif

    Mike
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:15 PM GMT
    I did the Clen cycle for 4 weeks, I eat and slept and all that good stuff, I lost like 5 lbs and at the time it was all I was looking for. Like the guys said, your diet (I still don't know why they use that term...) has to be normal, breakfast, lunch, dinner and a few small snacks in between. I'm not saying the meals should cover the plate but make sure you get the required intake of vitamins, minerals, protein, etc.

    A dietitian is a great way to build a proper diet if you don't know how. Sure it'll cost some money but if you REALLY want the results then your going to have to dish out SOME money. Not everything is free you know. Plus you'll have an in site of meals and planning them afterwords, so it's not like your coin is going to waste.

    Oh and I don't see where you could loose some weight, cause Clen is mainly a weight loss assistant more then anything else.

    Oh and about your friend, there's no need to not call him one because of what he said, maybe he saw it on a website and read the description. Seriously you guys come on, telling him he shouldn't call that guy a friend because of a small slight in error, that's a little too dramatic don't you think?
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:22 PM GMT
    David22 saidI would like to lose 10 lbs that I have not been able to lose. I jog 3-5 miles 4 times a week and also swim a lot but it doesnt seem to want to come off.


    So you want to take a steroid to lose 10 lbs? Ummm change something up man you are not looking to lose enough to take that.
    Itstead of jogging long distances you should read up on intervals for weight loss and find a different diet.
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:22 PM GMT
    It has been shown to be a mild steriod. (in lab rats) So who knows the real effect on humans.

    The side effects are quite bad though. Bad muscle cramping if you are not taking enough taurine.

    And what you cycle with clen is the really dangerous drug.

    And I hate people that automatically think that any supplement is absurd and should be abhorred. Life is about balance, and if probably researched and taken correctly, I don't see a problem with it.
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:29 PM GMT
    YngHungSFSD saidPS: with no disrespect to your friend, this piece of absolutely terrible advice should disqualify him from dispensing further advice.


    Yeah that is what I was thinking. You know how Clentbutterol works? It increases your body temperature, meaning it basically makes you run a fever, which kind of increases your body's fat usage. When taking this most people take a thiroid drug T3 with it as well as Ketotifen.
    10 lbs. just is not worth all that.
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:31 PM GMT
    Yep the t3 is the really dangerous stuff. Rule of thumb not to mess with thyroid function.

    Clen is actually used in the US for horses. And elsewhere in the world as an asthma medicine. Says a lot about the drug

    I guess, I am sort of a contradiction. Although, I don't see a problem using most supplements. As long as they are researched and used properly. However, I am too careful to use anything besides vitamins and protein powder.

    And they're is a certain pride that comes in achieving results through sweat and dedication.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Jun 05, 2008 6:38 PM GMT
    n8dagrt saidAnd I hate people that automatically think that any supplement is absurd and should be abhorred. Life is about balance, and if probably researched and taken correctly, I don't see a problem with it.



    Oh, don't hate people that think, putting something into your body that has serious side effects is bad for you. There is enough hate in the world as it is.

    It amazes me that some people would sooner pay for crap like that, than pay for healthy food.

    I will never understand humans icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:53 PM GMT
    Your body is nothing but chemical interactions. So adjusting and manipulating them can work to your benefit.

    And some of us aren't as genetically gifted as some...

    cough chizzad cough
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    Jun 05, 2008 6:58 PM GMT
    Nope, not my bag of tea. I prefer long hours of pain mixed with the feeling of never getting results, because when I finally compare pictures of my progress I can see what my hard work has been all for.