Am I going crazy?? Or are the porns today....

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    Nov 27, 2011 7:31 AM GMT
    have way much more barebacking content? everywhere I look, it's barebacking barebacking barebacking. WTF is this. I think it's really sending out the fucking wrong message (pun intended) that many people are doing this out there.

    what are your thoughts on this. I think the porn industry should not look at the short sighted financial gains and actually put these actors' health in mind. and worse yet, it just send out the wrong message. I just stumbled on a scene where a guy was gangbanged by 10 tops bareback. It worries me. Are there so many people having BB sex now? Is this the norm? Oh I hope it's not the norm.

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    Nov 27, 2011 7:41 AM GMT
    I like BB porn better, I've never BB'ed in my life, and I never will (maybe in a monogamous LTR in the future). One of my fantasies is getting gangbanged by 15+ tops BB, but that's what it is, just a fantasy cuz I would never do it because I value my health too much and I get to live vicariously through these porn videos, so thank God for them. icon_redface.gif
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    Nov 27, 2011 11:40 AM GMT
    If we were worried about the "message" in porn, we wouldn't be watching porn.

    Whatever happens in porn is there because it's a fantasy, not because it's meant to be real life. Barebacking is popular in porn because it is fantasy: the fantasy of completely intimate (though bizarrely impersonal) sex with no boundaries, no hesitations, no paranoia about disease... An ideal kind of sex.
  • Timbales

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    Nov 27, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    It's saddening to me that so many young men are willing to endanger themselves for a few bucks.
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    Nov 27, 2011 8:15 PM GMT
    Timbales saidIt's saddening to me that so many young men are willing to endanger themselves for a few bucks.


    Right?!
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    Nov 28, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    Porn is about creating a fantasy. It's not designed to be recreated in real life.

    If you go to a movie and did something you saw in the movie and got hurt people would call you dumb. That's the whole reason you went to the movie in the first place, to see something you could not ordinarily do in real life.

    The same is true with porn. It's job is to entertain, not to tackle social issues.
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    Nov 28, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
    dekiruman saidPorn is about creating a fantasy. It's not designed to be recreated in real life.

    If you go to a movie and did something you saw in the movie and got hurt people would call you dumb. That's the whole reason you went to the movie in the first place, to see something you could not ordinarily do in real life.

    The same is true with porn. It's job is to entertain, not to tackle social issues.


    I really hate to rebuttal your points because most of the time I think you are right. But what you just wrote is actually a failed analogy.

    The sex these models have are real unprotected sex. These are real scenes with real people. In an action movie when they shoot they are using fake bullets and fake knives. In bareback sex porn scenes, they are having real unprotected anal sex. It's like shooting a movie, but with real fucking bullets. What movie director in their own fucking mind would allow this to happen? huh?
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    Nov 28, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    waimea said
    dekiruman saidPorn is about creating a fantasy. It's not designed to be recreated in real life.

    If you go to a movie and did something you saw in the movie and got hurt people would call you dumb. That's the whole reason you went to the movie in the first place, to see something you could not ordinarily do in real life.

    The same is true with porn. It's job is to entertain, not to tackle social issues.


    I really hate to rebuttal your points because most of the time I think you are right. But what you just wrote is actually a failed analogy.

    The sex these models have are real unprotected sex. These are real scenes with real people. In an action movie when they shoot they are using fake bullets and fake knives. In bareback sex porn scenes, they are having real unprotected anal sex. It's like shooting a movie, but with real fucking bullets. What movie director in their own fucking mind would allow this to happen? huh?


    If the safety of the actors is your concern, I can see where you're coming from. I didn't even think about it like that.

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  • asixpactogo

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    Nov 28, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
    I like to see guys fucking bare. It turns me on way more than a guy with a condom on. I actually find myself switching to another video if I see a condom. Animalistic thoughts I guess.
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    Nov 28, 2011 4:42 AM GMT
    Obviously, the guys doing these BB scenes don't share your concern for contracting HIV. If they did, they wouldn't be doing it.

    We're all afraid of different things. Some guys are even afraid to get on cam and prove their identity, though there is no risk of contracting an STI.
  • jackthejock

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    Nov 30, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
    well if it is a professional porn than they are all tested for STD's but if it is amateur than they probably are being unsafe
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    Nov 30, 2011 8:18 AM GMT
    The industry has testing standards but there are a lot of + people in it having unprotected sex on camera with partners of publicly-unknown serostatus... and that is very disconcerting. I don't even watch porn... but still. Barebacking is GROSSSSSSSSSS
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    Nov 30, 2011 10:43 AM GMT
    Studios like Bel Ami used to always have condoms in clips... now lots of them are BB.

    Some might say this is the free market at work. icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 30, 2011 1:45 PM GMT
    waimea said
    dekiruman saidPorn is about creating a fantasy. It's not designed to be recreated in real life.

    If you go to a movie and did something you saw in the movie and got hurt people would call you dumb. That's the whole reason you went to the movie in the first place, to see something you could not ordinarily do in real life.

    The same is true with porn. It's job is to entertain, not to tackle social issues.


    I really hate to rebuttal your points because most of the time I think you are right. But what you just wrote is actually a failed analogy.

    The sex these models have are real unprotected sex. These are real scenes with real people. In an action movie when they shoot they are using fake bullets and fake knives. In bareback sex porn scenes, they are having real unprotected anal sex. It's like shooting a movie, but with real fucking bullets. What movie director in their own fucking mind would allow this to happen? huh?


    I totally agree with everything you say Waimea, I've said the same thing on this topic numerous times on here. I don't understand when guys say porn is just 'fantasy'. They are not simulating bareback sex, they are actually having it! You cannot equate it to a regular movie with stunts and special effects. It is NOT the same. People DO get influenced in their sexual habits by watching porn, and I definitely think that the prevalence of bareback porn is contributing to the increase in barebacking and hence increase in HIV transmission. Sad times.

    I much prefer condom-only porn. It's way hotter in my opinion and features better production quality and hotter guys!
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    Nov 30, 2011 1:47 PM GMT
    FrostedFlakes saidBarebacking is GROSSSSSSSSSS


    Not in the context of a monogamous loving relationship, but fetishising it for the sake of porn is, and influencing porn consumers, many of whom are young gay men who haven't lived through the AIDS crisis of the 80s, is irresponsible at best and highly negligent for the studios.
  • Hothouse

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    Nov 30, 2011 2:32 PM GMT
    Porn is a business.
    People who make porn are in it to make money.
    The fact that bareback porn exhists is because there is a demand for it.
    The fact that more and more bareback porn is available means there is a big demand for it.
    Porn producers are not interested in making a health statement, a relationship statement, a safety statement - they're interested in making money.
    Bareback porn obviously makes money.

    I do wonder why guys, most of them very good looking with great bodies, would endanger themselves and make BB porn - or any porn for that matter.
    But, it's their choice. And, face it, guys like to watch porn. A lot of guys watch porn.
    I do like BB porn, because porn is all about the fantasy for me, it's about all the stuff I can't, won't, or don't have the opportunity to do, but it still turns me on and gets me off. I'll watch BB porn with the realization that the guys doing it are doing it of their own free will and for the purpose of other guys desire to view it.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:10 PM GMT
    FrostedFlakes saidThe industry has testing standards but there are a lot of + people in it having unprotected sex on camera with partners of publicly-unknown serostatus... and that is very disconcerting. I don't even watch porn... but still. Barebacking is GROSSSSSSSSSS


    It is!!! Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:11 PM GMT
    Pure said
    FrostedFlakes saidBarebacking is GROSSSSSSSSSS


    Not in the context of a monogamous loving relationship, but fetishising it for the sake of porn is, and influencing porn consumers, many of whom are young gay men who haven't lived through the AIDS crisis of the 80s, is irresponsible at best and highly negligent for the studios.


    I know. Totally irresponsible.
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    Nov 30, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    It's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?
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    Nov 30, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    tyklong saidIt's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?


    What's a cream pie?
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    Nov 30, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
    tyklong saidIt's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?


    Because straight people for some reason or another dont fear STDs like HIV like gay people do.

    I.E. straight people are stupid as fuck. I dont know how many times I have talked with a straight friend about hooking up, there first response is "Arent you worried about getting HIV?"

    No I used a condom.

    They tell a story.

    Didnt you use a condom? No....

    grrr
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    Nov 30, 2011 8:55 PM GMT
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    tyklong saidIt's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?


    Because straight people for some reason or another dont fear STDs like HIV like gay people do.

    I.E. straight people are stupid as fuck. I dont know how many times I have talked with a straight friend about hooking up, there first response is "Arent you worried about getting HIV?"

    No I used a condom.

    They tell a story.

    Didnt you use a condom? No....

    grrr


    That's because you're talking the gay language and they don't understand it. I still think it's so funny that people think gay = AIDS. LOLOLOLOLOL
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    Nov 30, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    waimea said
    tyklong saidIt's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?


    What's a cream pie?



    You don't know @waimea?, you're so innocent!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creampie_(sexual_act) (can't make it clickable, I don't know why tho)
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    Dec 01, 2011 2:05 AM GMT
    Hypnotico said
    waimea said
    tyklong saidIt's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?


    What's a cream pie?



    You don't know @waimea?, you're so innocent!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creampie_(sexual_act) (can't make it clickable, I don't know why tho)


    You are a little slut! icon_lol.gif

    I do know what a creamepie is... but I DIDN'T AT YOUR AGE! icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 01, 2011 2:18 AM GMT
    conscienti1984 said
    Hypnotico said
    waimea said
    tyklong saidIt's even more terrible when they do the cream pie. I actually don't find that's hot.

    A little bit off topic but i have always wondered why they never use condoms in straight porns?


    What's a cream pie?



    You don't know @waimea?, you're so innocent!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creampie_(sexual_act) (can't make it clickable, I don't know why tho)


    You are a little slut! icon_lol.gif

    I do know what a creamepie is... but I DIDN'T AT YOUR AGE! icon_wink.gif


    You know what they say... kids these days icon_redface.gif