Losing weight vs Bulking up

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    Nov 28, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    For those of you on here that have lost a significant amount of weight- at what point did you try to bulk up or how did you go about doing it? I've lost a little over 90 pounds in the past year or so but for the past couple months I've been fluctuating between 192-198 and I feel like I'm pretty stuck. I still have about 25 more pounds I'd like to lose but I'm wondering if it will be easier if I try to bulk up first?

    I started lifting weights last October and pretty much had no muscle base to begin with so as far as muscle size I'm still not very big. I also do not feel like I have made the strength gains that an average person would make in a year of weightlifting. I'm pretty sure I've maxed out my newbie gains at this point. Again, would trying to bulk up make this easier?

    Coming from the Former Fat Guy mentality, I realize that you probably can't gain muscle without gaining fat, but I'm paranoid of reversing the progress I've made. Thoughts?
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    Nov 28, 2011 6:32 PM GMT
    wolfpackbuddy saidFor those of you on here that have lost a significant amount of weight- at what point did you try to bulk up or how did you go about doing it? I've lost a little over 90 pounds in the past year or so but for the past couple months I've been fluctuating between 192-198 and I feel like I'm pretty stuck. I still have about 25 more pounds I'd like to lose but I'm wondering if it will be easier if I try to bulk up first?

    I started lifting weights last October and pretty much had no muscle base to begin with so as far as muscle size I'm still not very big. I also do not feel like I have made the strength gains that an average person would make in a year of weightlifting. I'm pretty sure I've maxed out my newbie gains at this point. Again, would trying to bulk up make this easier?

    Coming from the Former Fat Guy mentality, I realize that you probably can't gain muscle without gaining fat, but I'm paranoid of reversing the progress I've made. Thoughts?

    You probably just need to change up your diet. Bulking up obviously isn't going to help you lose weight so why would you even consider that? You're probably getting too many carbs in your diet and possibly not enough protein. What is your diet like?
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    Nov 28, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    If you've managed to lose over 90 pounds in the last year or so, first of all, that's fucking awesome and you should feel proud of yourself.

    If I've learned one thing on these message boards, its that no matter how fit you are, you can always do more/better. So relax, keep working hard and you'll see progress.

    I think to get good advice you'd need to give more information on your diet. What are you doing now and how did you lose the 90lbs? I'd wager it wasn't through weight lifting so why would that help you lose the remaining 25lbs you'd like to lose?
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    Nov 28, 2011 7:01 PM GMT
    I guess to better word my question- would bulking up in the short term and having a better muscle base to work with help me when I try to cut again? Gaining muscle strength and size are definitely long-term goals of mine as well.

    As far as what I've been doing in the gym to lose the weight- lifting 3-5 days a week with a 3 day split: chest, triceps, abs/back,biceps,shoulders/legs,abs. Usually followed immediately by 30-45 minutes of cardio (running, stairmaster, bike) and sometimes do HIIT for my cardio.

    My diet does include carbs- cereal, sandwiches, and pasta mainly. I try to keep it whole grains most of the time. I also eat a good amount of fruits & veggies and eat chicken, turkey, and tuna for my protein. Also usually at least one serving of almonds a day. This got me most of the way there- I tried going paleo for about a month and it worked pretty well but it was too expensive to keep it up.
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    Nov 28, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
    Why don't you both at the same time? icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 28, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
    Gaining muscle mass will help you lose weight long term. The added muscle will increase your metabolism and cause your body to work harder to maintain itself.

    As for your diet, paleo can definitely be expensive but there are ways to keep the costs down. Chicken and tuna aren't as expensive as beef, for example, but I think you might have a harder (note: harder not impossible) time leaning down while eating the diet you have. Cereal and pasta are largely empty calories and cause your body to store fat. Too many fruits and nuts can also make weight loss difficult. Whole grains actually have more sugar and may not be working in your favor either.

    It sounds like you have plenty of knowledge. Keep up the good work and best of luck to you.
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    Nov 28, 2011 8:31 PM GMT
    Another thing that you could do would be to switch up your routine. As you hit that plateau, your body is just used to the same old same old routine- running and weights. You could switch it up and try a different cardio exercise (like me- as soon as I get back to my old gym, I'll start swimming again) or a new lifting routine.
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    Nov 28, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    wolfpackbuddy saidI guess to better word my question- would bulking up in the short term and having a better muscle base to work with help me when I try to cut again? Gaining muscle strength and size are definitely long-term goals of mine as well.

    As far as what I've been doing in the gym to lose the weight- lifting 3-5 days a week with a 3 day split: chest, triceps, abs/back,biceps,shoulders/legs,abs. Usually followed immediately by 30-45 minutes of cardio (running, stairmaster, bike) and sometimes do HIIT for my cardio.

    My diet does include carbs- cereal, sandwiches, and pasta mainly. I try to keep it whole grains most of the time. I also eat a good amount of fruits & veggies and eat chicken, turkey, and tuna for my protein. Also usually at least one serving of almonds a day. This got me most of the way there- I tried going paleo for about a month and it worked pretty well but it was too expensive to keep it up.

    It'll give you a better muscle base, but what do you think is going to happen to your muscle when you're trying to cut that much? You're going to lose a lot of it. As far as your routine, you're probably doing too much cardio. Lifting heavy and then doing 45 minutes of running after definitely isn't ideal for muscle growth. If you're going to the gym and lifting 5 days a week you're definitely burning enough calories so I say do less cardio. As far as your diet, try reducing your carbs and see if that works. I say don't worry about bulking or cutting now. If you lift and watch your diet you'll definitely see results.