P90X or Gym?

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    Nov 29, 2011 9:46 AM GMT
    I have P90X somewhere around, as well as a gym membership.. When I had first purchased P90X I had zero strength, no idea of how to eat right, and the nutrition guide was pretty much code to me. So instead, I joined a gym, got stronger, a little bigger and then completely stopped cause I was traveling a lot at the time.

    Wanna get back into it, just not sure which route to take.. P90X considering I have a bit more strength to keep up a little, or fend for myself at the gym since I've seen results doing so?

    Trying to gain muscle. Have no fat to lose.
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    Nov 29, 2011 10:38 AM GMT
    When I was part of a gym I saw muscle growth and really improved on my size, but the thing was I got bigger and didn't look very lean. I went through the P90x 3 month program and it was pretty much this whole lose weight thing that just made me skinny, really skinny.

    So a gym is your best bet if you are looking to look more like a muscle man, but P90x will make you leaner; those muscles just won't come in anytime soon is all with the program.
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    Nov 29, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
    I would say go for the gym. I mean since you already know the correct nutrition and you aren't looking to lean out. I wish you the best of luck!!! I'm starting p90x today, but that is because I need to lean out a lot
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    Nov 29, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
    I'd say go for the gym. You can't do the major muscle building lifts at home, aka Squats, Deadlifts and Bench Presses. In addition to being surrounded by good equipment, you'll be surrounded by other guys lifting as well, which should help motivate you to reach your goals.
  • buckled

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    Nov 29, 2011 2:21 PM GMT
    Gym > P90X... it's too much about toning and you won't be able to do the heavy lifting you need to bulk up. Plus what Matty said.. you'll be surrounding by fit / hot guys that will be motivation to push yourself to the limits.
  • umphreak

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    Nov 29, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    Depends on your fitness level. P90x does incorporate weights for shoulders/arms and if your not all that strong yet, body weight chest/back exercises can certainly work. If you're able to bang out multiple sets of 30 pushups (with proper form) or 20+ pullups, you'll need a weight vest or a gym. Saying you can't make gains in your legs with p90x is BS. Between the legs/back routine, plyo and yoga (if you actually go deep in the lunges), your legs WILL get ripped. My leg definition has improved dramatically. If you don't get enough legs in p90x, you're not going deep enough or using improper form.

    As far as p90x just causing you to lose weight, that, IMO, was probably caused by under-eating. If you are trying to bulk, you need to eat a calorie surplus.

    Either will work if you do it right.
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    Nov 29, 2011 3:25 PM GMT
    Nothing wrong with a blended approach using elements of both. Completely agree with the value of the major compound lifts, esp squat and deadlift, but your form must be perfect or else you risk injury.

    When you think about, using any one program exactly out of the box can't be optimal for everyone. If the full P90X program is perfect for someone who needs to lose fat, how could that also be optimal for someone with little fat who wants to add size?

    If you have no fat to lose, you can skip most or all of the cardio in P90X. I think some cardio is beneficial, but 20-30 minutes of intervals on a bike or treadmill or rower twice a week would be plenty.

    The resistance program in P90X isn't bad, but if you reduce some volume of those and replace by the compound lifts in the gym, I think you would have the best of P90X, tailored for you.
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    Nov 29, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
    If motivation is your issue, then do what motivates you. But beyond that, P90X is probably too much intense cardio for someone with low body fat. Unless you are over 40, you would probably benefit much more from strength training than from cardio-ish routines.
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    Nov 29, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
    I agree that you need to think about what will work best for you in terms of motivation. If you will be disciplined and push yourself, then P90X can work. If you need to be around other people to keep you energized and engaged, then hit the gym. I have done P90X and I currently hit the gym 5 or 6 times a week. Both give you growth. I can kick it at the gym and go back and do a day of P90X and it makes me sore like crazy because it's different. At minimum watch the P90X videos because they will give you some good ideas of things to work into your routine at the gym.
  • umphreak

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    Nov 29, 2011 6:34 PM GMT
    I agree on skipping cardio--except plyo. That is non-stop leg work. It also happens to be a good cardio workout as well.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Nov 29, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    Why can't you do both?
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    Nov 29, 2011 6:42 PM GMT

    Some have alluded to this, too... but P90X CAN give you bulk. It may not make you into a professional body builder, but it builds muscle. The trick — and the DVDs hammer this point over and over — is that in order to add size you have to use as much weight as will make you struggle on 6-7 reps and max out on 8-10 reps.

    Disclaimer: I don't always practice what I preach and struggle to add muscle, too. But my best P90X workouts are those where I really try to follow the 8-10 rule, despite my brain telling me it's "too hard."

    Also, it's a solitary workout routine. Some people are more motivated being around people who are working hard... and the gym is better for them. I hate public gyms.

  • Eric_the_Red

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    Nov 29, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    It all depends on your goals. If you only want to go for strength and bulk the gym is the only way to go. If you want strength-endurance I think P90X is a great program assuming you have a decent selection of weights at home to use. You need to be able to push yourself

    Personally I like P90X since you can do a solid hours workout with warm up and cool down in an hour. If I go to the gym there is travel time there and back plus waiting for equipment so that hour work starts taking more around 2.

    My routine is that I do the full P90X program during the winter months (don't feel like biking to gym in the rain and also to finish in early Feb to avoid the new years flux of people to the gym) and then the rest of the year lift, swim, run, bike, and rock climb. P90X plyo also gets me in great shape for winter skiing trip. The rest of the year if I'm busy or not feeling like heading to the gym I like to be able to start P90X DVD and just do it at home.

    Also my fitness goals are just not to bulk up and lift the most weight but I want to be able to stay in great shape so that I can do the activities I love to do: backpacking, skiing, rockclimbing, windsurfing, biking, and swimming.
  • Vaughn

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    Nov 29, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
    There is an article about this stuff in this months Muscular Development. You should pick it up.
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    Nov 30, 2011 12:06 AM GMT
    Alright. I'm gonna do gym, but plyometrics dvd at home for legs..

  • sybiko

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    Dec 07, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
    As Tony Horton says in the P90X dvds, it depends on what your goals are. If you're looking to build, then find a weight that makes you struggle to maintain good form around the 8-10 rep mark. If you're looking to be more lean, you want a weight that you can do 12-15 reps with.

    I personally am not anti-gym, but i do see the benefits of working out at home:

    * no travel time to factor in

    * equipment is always there, ready for you and you only to use

    * Get a solid 1hr (or 1.5 in the case of yoga x) workout, no interruptions

    * Don't have to worry about what you wear (or don't) or what silly faces you're making

    *It's virtually FREE

    If you have the weights, do P90X. If your home equipment isn't heavy enough and you aren't interested i buying heavier weights, then go gym. No one said you can't follow the P90X routine in the gym.....print of a workout sheet and take it with you for the resistance days icon_smile.gif
  • theguyintown

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    Dec 07, 2011 4:18 PM GMT
    I won't reiterate what others have said, but you can do both. P90X has a signifcant cardio element and the weight loss component is emphasized, but have you considered Insanity instead? Shorter program, more intense workouts. Try incorporating Insanity with gym.
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    Dec 07, 2011 4:44 PM GMT
    Go to the gym for muscle building---P90x seems to me to me more about weight loss and cardio--both excellent--but I can't quite believe that the people in the infomercials got ripped from the program. I'm at my gym 5 days a week doing a full body workout, and I run 30 to 40 miles a week which prevents me from bulking up too much. I'm more runner than anything so I use weight lifting as great cross training and injury prevention routine.
  • umphreak

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    Dec 07, 2011 4:45 PM GMT
    BackToZero saidAlright. I'm gonna do gym, but plyometrics dvd at home for legs..

    I'd give core synergistics and legs/back a go as well.

    If you want your legs and glutes completely smoked, pick up "plyo legs" from tony's "one on one" series, volume one, disk one. Best leg workout I've ever done.
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    Dec 08, 2011 9:12 PM GMT
    Why not do both? If you schedule your gym routines correctly, both systems will compliment each other. I did a cycle of P90X Lean with two extra run sessions per week and one extra leg workout. Combining the best of both worlds might also keep you from getting bored with either routine and provide a little flexibility in your schedule.

    Break the rules man. Get mavericky. Good luck.
  • DR2K

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    Dec 09, 2011 3:45 AM GMT
    cutting p90x. growth = gym. That's how it goes for me.
  • allatonce

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    Dec 10, 2011 4:21 PM GMT
    DR2K saidcutting p90x. growth = gym. That's how it goes for me.

    Ya I think that is the general consensus. I think you can get bigger with P90X but much easier at the gym where you can do major exercises with bidder weights.
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    Dec 12, 2011 2:15 PM GMT

    I'd just use segments of p90x like Ab Ripper X and the Cardio workouts but then work out with weights at the gym - sometimes I even do the Ab Ripper X at the gym. The problem for me was when they would say "and we're doing pull ups!" but I didn't have a pull up bar or any bar/tree branch/sturdy door frame to use. Hence the gym helped me target areas I couldn't work with when doing p90x. If you follow the guide that comes with the DVDs, p90x is not just about weightloss - they offer various ways to lose weight, gain muscle, and even body build.
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    Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    P90X is a cult!