June 11: Common marriage law vote in Norway

  • NickoftheNort...

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    Jun 06, 2008 8:48 AM GMT
    On June 11, the Norwegian Parliament will vote on three laws that are significant for the Norwegian LGBQ community:

    • a common marriage law regardless of the genders involved; i.e. a common marriage law for gays and straights
    • opening up adoption rights for gay and lesbian couples; under the current rules, gay and lesbian single persons can adopt (but not coupled!)
    • allowing assisted impregnation for lesbian couples

    The Labor Party, the Socialist Left Party, and the Liberal Party have informed their members that they are to support all three suggested laws (this support is part of their party programs).

    The Conservative Party and the Centre [sic] Party have opened for their members to vote as they see fit, and have prominent members who vocally support the new laws; apparently, the Oslo and Hordaland sections of the Conservatives had tried to make support for the laws part of the party program, but failed.

    The Progressive Party and the Christian Democrats have informed their members that they are to reject the new laws.

    While I am not a fan of a government-sanctioned marital institution, I am happy that it will be made equal for all consenting adults.
  • DCEric

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    Jun 06, 2008 6:00 PM GMT
    yet another country mine slips behind.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Jun 11, 2008 9:53 AM GMT
    They are currently holding the Parliamentary debates on the new marriage law. The government coalition (primarily the Labor Party and the Centre Party) is receiving criticism for having changed its stand on L&G marriage from its party programme during the 2005 elections; the Progressive Party is accusing the coalition of having lied. The coalition's representative (Centre Party) explains the changed position as being reflective of the larger societal change.

    The Christian Democrats are opposing the changes on the grounds that religious institutions have threatened to stop providing marriage services.

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    The Liberal Party is pointing to its preference for its suggested marriage law, which would separate the governmental part of marriage (law, contractual) and the religious part of marriage (ceremonial, ritual).
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    Jun 11, 2008 9:57 AM GMT
    Woohoo. I hope they approve it then. I knew it... all it took was for Americans to wake up. icon_razz.gif They're toppling like dominoes.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Jun 11, 2008 10:13 AM GMT
    Ooooh, that was nice.

    A Liberal Party representative just verbally bitch-slapped a Progressive Party representative who portrayed the new rights of assisted impregation for lesbian couples (and its included right for children born through these means to learn who their male parent is when they turn 18 ) as a threat to the "importance of fathers." The LP rep. pointed out that this new rule was more stringent than the current rules for heteros, where ass.imp. children do not have the right to know who their biological fathers are.

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    The possibility of surrogate mothers is still taboo in Norway though, including the Liberal Party, which fears that it commercializes (commodifies) women's reproductive capabilities.

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    The Conservative Party leader is invoking Rosa Parks' civil disobedience as an allegory to why she supports the new marriage law.

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    The deference to the "rights of children" by all parts frustrates me...I'm a bit too USAmerican to put the "child" on such a pedestal.

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    A Progressive Party rep. just claimed that there is more violence and instability within gay and lesbian couplings, citing studies (though I am curious as to which studies he referred to; the Prog. Party is notorious for cherry-picking).
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Jun 11, 2008 9:49 PM GMT
    And with that, Norway will now provide equal marriages for gays, lesbians, and straights, adoption rights for gay and lesbian couples, and assisted impregnation for lesbian couples (as long as the sperm donor can be identified) icon_biggrin.gif *applause*

    We're now seven countries and two US states down on the needs-to-equalize-marriage list, with a couple of hundred to go.
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    Jun 11, 2008 9:55 PM GMT
    Congratulations, Nick, on your country's progressive changes. Hopefully more and more countries will follow suit.

    Do you think you might take advantage of your country's gay marriage laws in the future sometime?

  • NickoftheNort...

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    Jun 11, 2008 10:50 PM GMT
    I don't know whether I will take advantage of it; I'm thus far more of a loner and have not been on the lookout for a long-term romantic relationship (or even a short-term one).

    Marriage does not yet entice me, not until I feel some need to settle down.

    I'm not a fan of marriage as an institution, but I want the options available within an ostensibly fair and just state to be available for all of its (consenting) participants.

    I'll still have to go to the US if I want to have children via a surrogate mother. icon_confused.gif

    However, the adoption rights could be handy.
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    Jun 12, 2008 8:59 PM GMT
    Correction: icon_cool.gif

    The Conservative party supports the law in it's programme of principles, and the vast majoritiy of the party MP's voted IN FAVOUR of the law.

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    No more two sets of laws, all laws are now the same for gays and straights. Surrogacy is not permitted for heterosexual couples, either.