Mitt Romney Signs Anti-Gay Pledge

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    Nov 30, 2011 1:20 PM GMT
    Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has signed on to a campaign pledge created by the anti-gay National Organization for Marriage, the group that seeks to obstruct marriage equality and, in states where gay and lesbian families are legally allowed to wed, to change back the law.

    The NOM pledge commits signatories to fight for "a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage, to appoint federal judges who don’t see a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, and to back the Defense of Marriage Act" should they be elected to the office of the presidency.

    Read more: http://technorati.com/politics/article/mitt-romney-signs-anti-gay-pledge/#ixzz1fC6qYkEC
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    Nov 30, 2011 1:41 PM GMT
    Thanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?
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    Nov 30, 2011 2:18 PM GMT
    A ridiculous play for the right wing..... probably won't do much good..
    at least I hope not!

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    Nov 30, 2011 2:46 PM GMT
    Isn't this old news...I thought this happened many months ago around the time that Santorum and Bachmann signed the same pledge? This is one of the only reasons Mitt Romney disappointed me, and why I would so much rather have Jon Huntsman. Jon Huntsman refuses to sign any pledges.
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    Nov 30, 2011 2:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidIsn't this old news...I thought this happened many months ago around the time that Santorum and Bachmann signed the same pledge?
    Yes its old news..........
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    Nov 30, 2011 2:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidIsn't this old news...I thought this happened many months ago around the time that Santorum and Bachmann signed the same pledge?


    It did.
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    Nov 30, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?


    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:03 PM GMT
    jeepguySD said
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?


    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.


    Yep. Both side so it. They just serve different masters.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    jeepguySD said
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?


    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.



    If it wasn't for fear and prejudice, the Republicans would never win an election.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
    miamimasseur said
    jeepguySD said
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?


    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.



    If it wasn't for fear and prejudice, the Republicans and democrats would never win an election.


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    Nov 30, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    jeepguySD said
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?

    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.

    Yep. Both side so [sic] it. They just serve different masters.

    Please list the anti-gay and anti-civil rights pledges that US Democrats have signed. The "they all do it" canard is a typical right-wing response when they get called on their policies and failures.

    NO, they do NOT all do it. And slandering all other politicians in order to dilute the guilt of Republicans is a cowardly & childish tactic.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:09 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Dallasfan824 said
    jeepguySD said
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?

    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.

    Yep. Both side so [sic] it. They just serve different masters.

    Please list the anti-gay and anti-civil rights pledges that US Democrats have signed.


    There is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidThere is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.

    Or knows yours?

    Anti-gay to the core. Or, if not, please tell us what pro-gay positions you hold & support, and what candidates by name, who promote these positions, that you endorse?
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
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    Dallasfan824 saidThere is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.

    Or knows yours?

    Anti-gay to the core. Or, if not, please tell us what pro-gay positions you hold & support, and what candidates who promote these positions you endorse?


    yep. you got me pegged.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
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    Dallasfan824 saidThere is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.

    Or knows yours?

    Anti-gay to the core. Or, if not, please tell us what pro-gay positions you hold & support, and what candidates by name, who promote these positions, that you endorse?

    Despite your delusions, you are not a gay truth squad and no one need answer to you about anything. If you want to describe your support to gay causes, that is your prerogative. Not all wear everything on their sleeve or constantly seek approval. As was stated, your positions are well known.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    Art_Deco said
    Dallasfan824 said
    jeepguySD said
    MuscledHorse saidThanks. I just poseted it to my facebook page. When will the Republiucans grow up and stop relying on people's prejudices as means for garnering a vote?

    Unfortunately, playing to people's basest fears and prejudices seems to work rather well in politics.

    Yep. Both side so [sic] it. They just serve different masters.

    Please list the anti-gay and anti-civil rights pledges that US Democrats have signed.


    There is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.
    Agree. Thank you.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    Art_Deco said
    Dallasfan824 saidThere is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.

    Or knows yours?

    Anti-gay to the core. Or, if not, please tell us what pro-gay positions you hold & support, and what candidates who promote these positions you endorse?

    yep. you got me pegged.

    If this evasion to my question is any indication, indeed I have, indeed I have. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:29 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Dallasfan824 said
    Art_Deco said
    Dallasfan824 saidThere is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.

    Or knows yours?

    Anti-gay to the core. Or, if not, please tell us what pro-gay positions you hold & support, and what candidates who promote these positions you endorse?

    yep. you got me pegged.

    If this evasion to my question is any indication, indeed I have, indeed I have. icon_biggrin.gif


    You need to learn to take yes as an answer.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:30 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    Dallasfan824 saidThere is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.

    Or knows yours?

    Anti-gay to the core. Or, if not, please tell us what pro-gay positions you hold & support, and what candidates by name, who promote these positions, that you endorse?

    Despite your delusions, you are not a gay truth squad and no one need answer to you about anything. If you want to describe your support to gay causes, that is your prerogative. Not all wear everything on their sleeve or constantly seek approval. As was stated, your positions are well known.


    ^More lame ad hominem slanders from republicans.

    The real issue? Romney (if elected) has openly promised to be the most bigoted, anti-gay US President ever.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    Yes, it is disappointing but it's no different than Obama deciding that marriage is between a man and a woman and sticking to that position. Romney needed to do this in order to get the religious fundie vote.

    Gay marriage equality hasn't been accomplished under Obama and it probably won't under Romney either. What we do know, however, is that both men likely only have that position for political reasons and do not really mind if gays have equal marriage rights (ever heard Mitt Romney talk about repealing gay marriage in Mass. when he was governor?)

    If we aren't going to have marriage with either, as is evident, I'd rather see someone who is competent on getting us economically prosperous again.

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    Nov 30, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    Don't worry about Romney(...the R-I-N-O). If by some fluke he gets the Rep.-nod, conservatives WILL NOT turn out the vote 4 him (just like McCain-the-R-I-N-O) and it will insure a victorious re-election 4 BHO. It doesn't mean I approve, but I'd never vote for this FRAUD known as Romney!

    The real tragedy is that so many Ppl are convinced (brainwashed?) they need the permission of an evil-government to get married in the 1st place . . .
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidYes, it is disappointing but it's no different than Obama deciding that marriage is between a man and a woman and sticking to that position. Romney needed to do this in order to get the religious fundie vote.

    Gay marriage equality hasn't been accomplished under Obama and it probably won't under Romney either. What we do know, however, is that both men likely only have that position for political reasons and do not really mind if gays have equal marriage rights (ever heard Mitt Romney talk about repealing gay marriage in Mass. when he was governor?)

    If we aren't going to have marriage with either, as is evident, I'd rather see someone who is competent on getting us economically prosperous again.



    Romney signed the anti-gay pledge. Obama never.

    -Romney signed the pledge stating that he will propose a Constitutional Amendment to Outlaw Same-Sex Marriage....even in states where it is now legal.

    -Romney will appoint judges to the Supreme Court that will rule against any forms of Same-Sex Marriage.

    -Romney will "vigorously" support and defend the Defense of Marriage Act.

    -Romney will establish a Presidential Commission to investigate claims from homophobes that they are being treated unfairly. WTF icon_eek.gif

    Read the pledge. Opens a PDF window ==> http://cdn.nomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Romney-Signed-Pledge.pdf

    Go read the pledge, and then go lick Romney's boots. But stop trying to spread your deceptions claiming Obama = Romney on Same-Sex Marriage.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:41 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidDespite your delusions, you are not a gay truth squad and no one need answer to you about anything. If you want to describe your support to gay causes, that is your prerogative. Not all wear everything on their sleeve or constantly seek approval. As was stated, your positions are well known.

    "Delusions" is a typical ad hominem personal attack you right-wingers use whenever you can't address the issue at hand. It's amazing how you all use the same terminology. Do you have a lexicon on that alternate right-wing site where the several dozen of you all gather together? That some of you have told us about?

    Your mentioning of my own gay support as an answer to me is another evasion of yours. I asked about who YOU support. If you're gonna bash everything gay here, I think it's fair to ask what in the gay community you DO support. And what political candidates who are gay-friendly that you endorse, if any.

    You exclusively promote right-wing candidates and positions here that are virulently gay-hostile. Do you have a counterpoint to that? I think it's fair to inquire about the entire spectrum of your political positions. This IS a gay site, after all.
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    Nov 30, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said

    There is more to politics than gay issues. And If I did, you would just defend them so there is really no point. Everyone knows your political ideology. There is no reason to rehash it for the elventybillionth time.


    ^^^^ THIS ^^^^


    socalfitness said
    Despite your delusions, you are not a gay truth squad and no one need answer to you about anything. If you want to describe your support to gay causes, that is your prerogative. Not all wear everything on their sleeve or constantly seek approval. As was stated, your positions are well known.


    ^^^^ and THIS ^^^^