Gingrich 45% and Obama 43%

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    Nov 30, 2011 6:23 PM GMT
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/2012_presidential_matchups
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Nov 30, 2011 7:26 PM GMT
    I dont trust any polls --- regardless of where the results fall
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    Nov 30, 2011 9:19 PM GMT
    This is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.
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    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Clinton and Gingrich worked well together. For instance they got welfare reform passed and got the capital gains tax decreased. I would love to see Gingrich and Obama in a debate. Gingrich would knock the sh*t right out him.
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    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Clinton and Gingrich worked well together. For instance they got welfare reform passed and got the capital gains tax decreased. I would love to see Gingrich and Obama in a debate. Gingrich would knock the sh*t right out him.


    Again, delusional. Gingrich cannot open his mouth without lying and Obama is an actual intellectual not a faux conservative one like Newt.

    I guess you have no problem with his being thrice married and leaving his previous two wives while they were dealing with serious illnesses, or his disowning his gay sister?

    He's a despicable human being who front runner status shows how bankrupt the Republican Party is.
  • conservativej...

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    Nov 30, 2011 11:12 PM GMT
    Well, Newt is a good friend. My comments would obviously be biased.

    Although I'm sure RJ's liberals will now blow a fuse.
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    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Clinton and Gingrich worked well together. For instance they got welfare reform passed and got the capital gains tax decreased. I would love to see Gingrich and Obama in a debate. Gingrich would knock the sh*t right out him.


    Again, delusional. Gingrich cannot open his mouth without lying and Obama is an actual intellectual not a faux conservative one like Newt.

    I guess you have no problem with his being thrice married and leaving his previous two wives while they were dealing with serious illnesses, or his disowning his gay sister?


    Thats all personaI, I could care less about any of that and what has Newt lied about?

    What makes Obama so intellegent, the fact that he has never lived in the real world or the fact that he has sh*t on the American people?





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    Dec 01, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Clinton and Gingrich worked well together. For instance they got welfare reform passed and got the capital gains tax decreased. I would love to see Gingrich and Obama in a debate. Gingrich would knock the sh*t right out him.


    Again, delusional. Gingrich cannot open his mouth without lying and Obama is an actual intellectual not a faux conservative one like Newt.

    I guess you have no problem with his being thrice married and leaving his previous two wives while they were dealing with serious illnesses, or his disowning his gay sister?


    Thats all personaI, I could care less about any of that and what has Newt lied about?

    What makes Obama so intellegent, the fact that he has never lived in the real world or the fact that he has sh*t on the American people?


    I guess you don't care about character, then.

    In terms of Obama, I think growing up in Indonesia, working in the poorest communities in Chicago and being a lawyer in private practice qualify as the "real world."

    In terms of intelligence, Occidental College (where'd you go?), Harvard Law, head of Law review, two bestselling books... Need I go on?

    Oh and when did he defecate on the American people? I think you're confusing him with Reagan or Bush II.
  • GQjock

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    Dec 01, 2011 12:39 AM GMT
    LOL .... wait until .... and if he gets the nomination

    He won't make it to the election



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    Dec 01, 2011 3:58 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Clinton and Gingrich worked well together. For instance they got welfare reform passed and got the capital gains tax decreased. I would love to see Gingrich and Obama in a debate. Gingrich would knock the sh*t right out him.


    Again, delusional. Gingrich cannot open his mouth without lying and Obama is an actual intellectual not a faux conservative one like Newt.

    I guess you have no problem with his being thrice married and leaving his previous two wives while they were dealing with serious illnesses, or his disowning his gay sister?


    Thats all personaI, I could care less about any of that and what has Newt lied about?

    What makes Obama so intellegent, the fact that he has never lived in the real world or the fact that he has sh*t on the American people?


    I guess you don't care about character, then.

    In terms of Obama, I think growing up in Indonesia, working in the poorest communities in Chicago and being a lawyer in private practice qualify as the "real world."

    In terms of intelligence, Occidental College (where'd you go?), Harvard Law, head of Law review, two bestselling books... Need I go on?

    Oh and when did he defecate on the American people? I think you're confusing him with Reagan or Bush II.


    I went to Purdue in Indiana, but again I AM NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!

    As far as character goes, what about Bill Clinton, or did you not vote for him.

    What you wrote about Obama and his experience doesn't impress me at all. The guy has never done any real work.



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    Dec 01, 2011 4:35 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidI went to Purdue in Indiana, but again I AM NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!

    As far as character goes, what about Bill Clinton, or did you not vote for him.

    What you wrote about Obama and his experience doesn't impress me at all. The guy has never done any real work.


    Obama isn't running, he IS the president. And he will like be so until 2016.

    Bill Clinton did not run on a "moral values" program like Gingrich did and continues to do. Clinton did not say hateful, untrue things about gays and lesbians, while being thrice married. But you've made it very clear that hypocrisy doesn't bother you in the least.

    I'm not interested in whether or not you're impressed by Obama. By any measure he is a man of stunning and rare accomplishment. When your side can float a candidate of equal measure, maybe Obama will have something to fear but that's a thin bench. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 01, 2011 4:42 AM GMT
    *Chuckles* Go Grinchie!
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    Well, if Newt were president the budget would get balanced and gay rights progress would halt.
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    Lol, President Grinch (which is how foreigners will [mis]pronounce it) has a good ring to it.icon_lol.gif
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    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Clinton and Gingrich worked well together. For instance they got welfare reform passed and got the capital gains tax decreased. I would love to see Gingrich and Obama in a debate. Gingrich would knock the sh*t right out him.


    Again, delusional. Gingrich cannot open his mouth without lying and Obama is an actual intellectual not a faux conservative one like Newt.

    I guess you have no problem with his being thrice married and leaving his previous two wives while they were dealing with serious illnesses, or his disowning his gay sister?


    Thats all personaI, I could care less about any of that and what has Newt lied about?

    What makes Obama so intellegent, the fact that he has never lived in the real world or the fact that he has sh*t on the American people?


    I guess you don't care about character, then.

    In terms of Obama, I think growing up in Indonesia, working in the poorest communities in Chicago and being a lawyer in private practice qualify as the "real world."

    In terms of intelligence, Occidental College (where'd you go?), Harvard Law, head of Law review, two bestselling books... Need I go on?

    Oh and when did he defecate on the American people? I think you're confusing him with Reagan or Bush II.

    Character? What a laugh. Obama's is in the toilet. Google Obama lies and broken promises. Many links, some links with pages. Don't know which is worse, his lack character or lack of competence. We will see what the people think, as they will be brought up repeatedly in the coming months.
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    Christian73 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis is great news as I am a Newt supporter, but it also shows that the race is way too close to call. Newt is not only attractive to conservatives but also to Independents. You have to remember back in the 90's he got Clinton to sign many bills from the GOP Congress. He has proven to be able to work accross the aisle. Obama has not.


    You are just delusional. Gingrich was run out of Washington on a rail. He wasted millions in taxpayer money trying to oust Clinton and made the Republican Party a laughing stock.

    Independents do not like Gingrich as he is far too ideological.

    And Gingrich passed nothing of substance in his tenure as Speaker. In fact, nothing from his Contract on America even became law. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I'm not putting a lot of stock in polls at this point; anytime someone new enters the race {insert "A Challenger Appears" meme} the polls generally spike in their favour for a few weeks. Let's see how things are in the run-up to Super Tuesday.

    Sadly, a LOT of GOPers will conveniently ignore these glaring issues since Newt is (a) not a Mormon ... and (b) is the quintessential DC Insider.

    I expect that Romney will have to engage in some mudslinging which may or may not stick, depending upon how bad the anti-Mormon bias stands.

    I do wish that Dr. Ron Paul had a fighting chance.