I hate the scene! I hate sports!

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    Nov 30, 2011 11:41 PM GMT
    Why is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?

    People genuinely do dislike gay bars for personal reasons and that others genuinely dislike stuff like watching sports, but you hear much more of the gay bar bashing.

    I know what I currently think, but am very interested in the rationale of others.

    No, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.

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    Dec 01, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    AGS89 saidWhy is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?

    People genuinely do dislike gay bars for personal reasons and that others genuinely dislike stuff like watching sports, but you hear much more of the gay bar bashing.

    I know what I currently think, but am very interested in the rationale of others.

    No, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.



    Well I'm not a fan of either, but it's easier to ignore sports in a sports bar than over the top gay guys. So I'd rather go to a sports themed place with a guy than the other.

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    Dec 01, 2011 12:16 AM GMT
    A flame war regarding the cultural construct of masculinity will likely commence as soon as a wacko liberal reads this thread.
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    Dec 01, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    Uhm..... think about where you're posting this, and the types of guys you typically encounter.

    Easy answer: Some ignorant and stupid "non-scene" dudes hate stereotypical gays and "gay" things.... visa versa... Ignorant stupid scene guys hate all things manly and gross...

    It exists dude... Look around.

    The problem is having disdain for anything without a good reason. Alas, people love to hate.
    People also love to fulfill stereotypes on both ends of the spectrum. Playing the part means hating the other side, right? You wouldn't want your (Insert scene here) friends to know you actually don't mind (Insert other scene here), now would you?!
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    Dec 01, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    AGS89 saidNo, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.


    Is that why I don't hear from you much these days?


    I don't enjoy watching sports, but I do like the highlight shows on ESPN. What does that count for?
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    Dec 01, 2011 12:32 AM GMT
    I watch Bears and White Sox games at a sports bar with friends does that count?
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    Dec 01, 2011 12:54 AM GMT
    One is shallow, vapid, meaningless, often self destructive

    The other is a good form of exercise icon_neutral.gif
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    Dec 01, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
    AGS89 saidWhy is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?
    Because masculine stuff is normal. Duh!
    /sarcasm
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    Dec 01, 2011 12:59 AM GMT
    It depends on who you talk to. I can tell you as a computer geek that there are plenty of fellow geeks who flaunt disliking sports. Of course, they're just overcompensating for their own lack of physical prowess, but they act like they are superior to anyone who likes sports. They view sports as being something only brain dead jocks are into. I happen to be a computer geek who likes football, so I don't know where that leaves me.
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:00 AM GMT
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    MsclDrew saidOne is shallow, vapid, meaningless, often self destructive

    The other is a good form of exercise icon_neutral.gif
    Theoretically, both of them are like that.... Well... Sports aren't really self-destructive unless you gamble or spend way too much money to go to a game. Or if you play sports and you injure yourself severely... It's all in context.


    Theoretically how?

    They're polar opposites really

    Exercise gives you endorphins, endorphins make you happy, happy people don't participate in a ritual of collective substance abuse and judging other people choice of outfits icon_twisted.gif

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    Dec 01, 2011 1:03 AM GMT
    Trollileo said
    MsclDrew said
    Trollileo said
    MsclDrew saidOne is shallow, vapid, meaningless, often self destructive

    The other is a good form of exercise icon_neutral.gif
    Theoretically, both of them are like that.... Well... Sports aren't really self-destructive unless you gamble or spend way too much money to go to a game. Or if you play sports and you injure yourself severely... It's all in context.


    Theoretically how?

    They're polar opposites really

    Exercise gives you endorphins, endorphins make you happy, happy people don't participate in a ritual of collective substance abuse and judging other people choice of outfits icon_twisted.gif

    Dancing to top 40 is amazing exercise. How do you think the twinks stay so thin?


    My sociological research indicates that it's crystallized methampetamines and Bulima icon_twisted.gif

    Don't get me wrong...I like sports... I like bars/clubs. there's a healthy balance between the two. ying and yang
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
    AGS89 saidWhy is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?

    People genuinely do dislike gay bars for personal reasons and that others genuinely dislike stuff like watching sports, but you hear much more of the gay bar bashing.

    I know what I currently think, but am very interested in the rationale of others.

    No, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.

    You it is funny gay people are the only ones that consider playing a sport or being as being masculine. I do not get it at all. Its funny. Straight people see it as being active and taking care of yourself. If you play sports they consider you athletic.
    I think most hate what comes with being at gay clubs and bars. Everything is the same. The is music is usually club or techno. Everyone looks like they just stepped out of Albercrombie & Fitch. Most if not all are drinking martinis and there is always someone say gurl or bitch. ha ha ha Me personally, I just prefer diversity. I also loath club and techno music. I would rather be at a sports bar than a gay bar any day of the week. I would rather be doing some more constructive than going to a gay pride. I would rather compete with everyone rather than a all gay league. Those of the reason I do not like being in the gay scene
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:11 AM GMT
    FrostedFlakes saidA flame war regarding the cultural construct of masculinity will likely commence as soon as a wacko liberal reads this thread.


    like clockwork, a wacko conservative preemptively bashes the other side because of stereotypes he heard from his omniscient parents. yes, liberals are all hippie professors who beat on drums and talk about social constructs all day.

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    Dec 01, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
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    AGS89 saidWhy is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?

    People genuinely do dislike gay bars for personal reasons and that others genuinely dislike stuff like watching sports, but you hear much more of the gay bar bashing.

    I know what I currently think, but am very interested in the rationale of others.

    No, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.

    You it is funny gay people are the only ones that consider playing a sport or being as being masculine. I do not get it at all. Its funny. Straight people see it as being active and taking care of yourself. If you play sports they consider you athletic.
    I think most hate what comes with being at gay clubs and bars. Everything is the same. The is music is usually club or techno. Everyone looks like they just stepped out of Albercrombie & Fitch. Most if not all are drinking martinis and there is always someone say gurl or bitch. ha ha ha Me personally, I just prefer diversity. I also loath club and techno music. I would rather be at a sports bar than a gay bar any day of the week. I would rather be doing some more constructive than going to a gay pride. I would rather compete with everyone rather than a all gay league. Those of the reason I do not like being in the gay scene


    Oh, I don't know. I know plenty of fatties who play softball, not everyone who plays sports is considered an athlete.

    I like to go to a bar, and I love sports.. .ergo, I love sports bars. We have a great one here in DC, Nellies.

    I don't like dance clubs though, gay or straight.
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:15 AM GMT
    sdgman saidI like to go to a bar, and I love sports.. .ergo, I love sports bars. We have a great one here in DC, Nellies.


    I haven't been to Nellies, but from what I've heard, it sounds like it's barely a sports bar. I've heard they play the same typical Top 40 music and that you can't hear the sports on TV. I thought it would be the one type of gay bar I might actually like to visit, if it weren't so far away.
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:18 AM GMT
    sdgman said
    tuffguyndc said
    AGS89 saidWhy is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?

    People genuinely do dislike gay bars for personal reasons and that others genuinely dislike stuff like watching sports, but you hear much more of the gay bar bashing.

    I know what I currently think, but am very interested in the rationale of others.

    No, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.

    You it is funny gay people are the only ones that consider playing a sport or being as being masculine. I do not get it at all. Its funny. Straight people see it as being active and taking care of yourself. If you play sports they consider you athletic.
    I think most hate what comes with being at gay clubs and bars. Everything is the same. The is music is usually club or techno. Everyone looks like they just stepped out of Albercrombie & Fitch. Most if not all are drinking martinis and there is always someone say gurl or bitch. ha ha ha Me personally, I just prefer diversity. I also loath club and techno music. I would rather be at a sports bar than a gay bar any day of the week. I would rather be doing some more constructive than going to a gay pride. I would rather compete with everyone rather than a all gay league. Those of the reason I do not like being in the gay scene


    Oh, I don't know. I know plenty of fatties who play softball, not everyone who plays sports is considered an athlete.

    I like to go to a bar, and I love sports.. .ergo, I love sports bars. We have a great one here in DC, Nellies.

    I don't like dance clubs though, gay or straight.
    playing sports doesn't mean you are always in shape. hell look at baseball players or look at football and linemen. Therefore, you have some athletic ability to hit a ball or to catch a line drive
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:20 AM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidYou it is funny gay people are the only ones that consider playing a sport or being as being masculine. I do not get it at all. Its funny. Straight people see it as being active and taking care of yourself.


    I have to disagree with you there. I don't know many straight people outside of personal trainers and other gym folks who view sports as primarily a way to be active. Sports are very much ingrained in the masculinity of straight culture, which is probably why so many gay guys vehemently distance themselves from it.
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    Dec 01, 2011 1:40 AM GMT
    FrostedFlakes saidA flame war regarding the cultural construct of masculinity will likely commence as soon as a wacko liberal reads this thread.
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    crazy lib 1 reporting for duty
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    Dec 01, 2011 2:01 AM GMT
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    tuffguyndc saidYou it is funny gay people are the only ones that consider playing a sport or being as being masculine. I do not get it at all. Its funny. Straight people see it as being active and taking care of yourself.


    I have to disagree with you there. I don't know many straight people outside of personal trainers and other gym folks who view sports as primarily a way to be active. Sports are very much ingrained in the masculinity of straight culture, which is probably why so many gay guys vehemently distance themselves from it.
    Ha ha ha Dude, you are way off base and I hate to say this but please do not take offense to this. However, the only straight people you just mention are personal trainers and other gym folks. Sports or other activities does not have anything to do with masculinity. Sports and masculinity is strictly a gay thing. Gay guys are the only ones who view playing sports as being masculine. I work with personal trainers too and I belong to a gym. 95% of my friends are straight and none of them even associates being masculine with playing sports.
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    Dec 01, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    sdgman said
    tuffguyndc said
    AGS89 saidWhy is it so common for guys to flaunt how much they dislike "the scene" and gay bars, yet so uncommon for anyone to flaunt disliking sports, hiking, or anything perceived as "masculine"?

    People genuinely do dislike gay bars for personal reasons and that others genuinely dislike stuff like watching sports, but you hear much more of the gay bar bashing.

    I know what I currently think, but am very interested in the rationale of others.

    No, I don't hate "the scene", nor sports, but I do hate thinking of subjects for emails and threads.

    You it is funny gay people are the only ones that consider playing a sport or being as being masculine. I do not get it at all. Its funny. Straight people see it as being active and taking care of yourself. If you play sports they consider you athletic.
    I think most hate what comes with being at gay clubs and bars. Everything is the same. The is music is usually club or techno. Everyone looks like they just stepped out of Albercrombie & Fitch. Most if not all are drinking martinis and there is always someone say gurl or bitch. ha ha ha Me personally, I just prefer diversity. I also loath club and techno music. I would rather be at a sports bar than a gay bar any day of the week. I would rather be doing some more constructive than going to a gay pride. I would rather compete with everyone rather than a all gay league. Those of the reason I do not like being in the gay scene


    Oh, I don't know. I know plenty of fatties who play softball, not everyone who plays sports is considered an athlete.

    I like to go to a bar, and I love sports.. .ergo, I love sports bars. We have a great one here in DC, Nellies.

    I don't like dance clubs though, gay or straight.


    I think only gay men look at a guy's body and consider him athletic or not. There are athletic guys with very different builds
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    Dec 01, 2011 2:45 AM GMT
    Gym_bull saidHating sports makes you feminine. Hating the scene, makes you a closet homosexual, and a very boring person.
    Yeah but only gay guys have this view point
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    Dec 01, 2011 2:57 AM GMT
    The gay "scene" or in this case gay bars hold little interest for me. The only things they have that interest me is gay men and booze. I can do without the rest. Top 40 remixed to hell and back, no thanks. Stuck up pretentious valley gays. No thanks. Trolls. No thanks, and last but not least. Drag queens with some kind if superiority complex that think because they are in drag they should be treated like queens. I don't mind giving you respect ladies but when you come up to me and take a swig of my drink because you think it's cute is a real good way to get yourself fucked up.

    That's why I avoid most gay "scenes" or in this case gay bars.
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    Dec 01, 2011 3:10 AM GMT
    The "scene": Occasionally when I need a new leather/sub bottom to explore my darker desires with, I'll hit up the Eagle or similar venues.

    Standard gay clubs picked wall to wall with the smell of "Fierce", glitter, semi-plastered obnoxious queens and the stale lingering smell of dried cum furtively seeded and sweat in the air? Rarely, and only if I'm truly bored.


    Sports: I don't follow every detailed NFL draft transaction or obscure baseball player's stats, but I'd much rather hangout in a sports bar if I simply must be a fool that needs to be parted from my money. =)
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    Dec 01, 2011 3:14 AM GMT
    I hate sports too... wait, is sex considered a sport? Then, I don't hate sports icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Dec 01, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    to each their own....