I'm officially banned from my brother's school and got a $50 citation...ugh, what a b*tch!!!

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    Dec 02, 2011 2:03 AM GMT
    I kinda went on a ranting spree because I'm still kinda pissed so if you don't wanna read, here's the main questions: Why are school bullies only getting slaps on the wrists (2 day suspensions, detentions, etc...) and then being allowed to come back to the same school and keep bullying? What the hell is the point for giving out of school suspension and detention? What do you think the punishments should be for bullies?



    Today I was in the middle of class taking my last calculus test for this semester and then my phone vibrates. It's a call from the county school system. I step out to answer it and it's my 15 year old brother's principal. I'm the first on the emergency contact sheet since my parents work busy hours and sometimes out of town. He told me this kid Hakeem in my brother's class was bothering him (cussing at him, throwing things at him, punching him and threatening him) and that it got kinda heated. I got up (with my test halfway done...told the prof I had an emergency) and left class. Now this is not the first time this has happened with this same kid, he's been bothering my brother since August and every time the boy gets a slap on the wrist (2 day suspension) then he'll come back 2 days later and do the same thing. On my way to his school I called my parents and let them know what happened and they told me not to say anything and that they would take care of it...........psht, yeah right icon_rolleyes.gif not this time.........>>I fast forward to noon....

    My brother, this little boy Hakeem, the principal, the vice principal and the school security officer are all seated at a table in this room while I was standing behind my brother. So my brother told his version of what happened first. While my brother told his side, this kid had a really bad attitude and was rolling his eyes, sucking his teeth and frowning like he was the one being bothered. Normally I'm able to control and carry myself in a dignified manner.......but I don't know WHAT came over me, I just skyrocketed into a complete rage....I tried to get close to the boy's face (of course with the security officer standing in between) and started screaming and cussing my head off (it was pretty loud). I had my fist balled up pretty tight so I knew I was in brawl mode. The principal stands and was like "YOU CANNOT TALK TO THIS STUDENT LIKE THAT AND LOWER YOUR TONE" I'm like "IF HE CAN CUSS AT MY BROTHER LIKE AN ADULT, HE CAN GET TALKED TO AND CUSSED OUT LIKE ONE TOO". The principal was like "I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE PREMISES NOW", I told my brother "GET YOUR SH*T SO WE CAN GO" then my anger turned to the administrators. I told them "IF YOU GUYS WOULD ACTUALLY GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASSES AND STOP GIVING F**KING SLAPS ON THE WRIST, THIS SH*T WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING. WHAT THE F*CK WILL A DAMN SUSPENSION DO IF YOU LET THIS LITTLE B*STARD COME BACK AND DO THE SAME THING 2 DAYS LATER?!?!?!?? IF YOU GUYS DON'T WANNA DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I WILL!" they all sat there quiet and I was about to leave but not without making one last threat to the boy: "Let you lay a finger on my brother again or say another g**damn word to him, I'll knock the black off of your ashy ass"...He started tearing up and at that point, the officer was like that's enough and escorted both of us out of the building. Well I wasn't done yet, I kept talking junk to him too...I called him "a minimum wage half ass rent a cop" which I think really pissed him off and he wrote me a $50 disturbance citation that I "have to" pay the school by 12/13. He told me I wasn't allowed on the school grounds and that I was lucky he didn't call the city police. He saw me rip it up and throw it in the wind while me and my brother kept walking to the car. Now I kinda hate that I flipped out the way I did and wish I handled it better but my brother and I argue like any other siblings however if somebody ELSE crosses the line and bothers him all holy hell breaks loose. Enough was enough.

    So again, why are school bullies only getting slaps on the wrists (2 day suspensions, detentions, etc...) and then being allowed to come back to the same school and keep bullying? What the hell is the point for giving out of school suspension and detention (Isn't a day off from school what every kid wants anyways?)? What do you think the punishments for bullies should be?

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    Dec 02, 2011 2:47 AM GMT
    OMG, dude. I hope u didn't embarrass ur lil bro.

    Granted, I know u were angry for a good reason, but u must remember this is probably a public school that needs to protect the safety of all students.... even "bullies"

    U cant "blow up" at the administrators dude. They're trying to do their job within the limits and guideleines of whichever state u live in.

    Anyway, take a effin chill pill and tell ur lil bro "it gets better"
    because it will.

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    Dec 02, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
    BlackCat90 said Now I kinda hate that I flipped out the way I did and wish I handled it better
    And the point to your rant is???
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    Dec 02, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    "Let you lay a finger on my brother again or say another g**damn word to him, I'll knock the black off of your ashy ass"...He started tearing up and at that point, the officer was like that's enough and escorted both of us out of the building.

    Ah man, I love this. Hilarious.
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    Dec 02, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
    we too soft on children these days, lemme tell ya
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    Dec 02, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
    You did the right thing, @BlackCat90 and LOL @ you calling him half ass rent a cop, if he was any good, he wouldn't be working there. icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 02, 2011 3:50 AM GMT
    I was with you up until you were yelling at the security guard. That wasnt needed. He probably agreed with you until you insulted him.

    The kid gets slap because the education system is too weak. They are afraid the kid will come back to bite them one day. They are also afraid of a racial lawsuit.
    Oddly, they give slaps on the wrist for serious things but overblow the small things.
    True Story: When I was in elementary school, I jump hugged one of my female friends and accidentally knocked her down. It gave her a temporary PSD where she flinched and put her hands up to brace herself for future hugs. A teacher witnessed this once, and the next thing I know I'm in the office of the head of the board of education on charges of extreme sexual harassment...as a third grader. Oddly enough, the board was on my side, and the chair gave me a book signed by the author as a nice gift, while the school's administrators got hot reprimand.

    The discipline standards of public education are disgusting.

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    Dec 02, 2011 4:21 AM GMT
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    BlackCat90 said Now I kinda hate that I flipped out the way I did and wish I handled it better
    And the point to your rant is???


    I stated it twice in the beginning and at the end.
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    Import saidOMG, dude. I hope u didn't embarrass ur lil bro.

    Granted, I know u were angry for a good reason, but u must remember this is probably a public school that needs to protect the safety of all students.... even "bullies"

    U cant "blow up" at the administrators dude. They're trying to do their job within the limits and guideleines of whichever state u live in.

    Anyway, take a effin chill pill and tell ur lil bro "it gets better"
    because it will.



    lol thanks, my brother is a football player but he's really softspoken and shy. So I think people see that as a weakness of his and they try to take advantage of it. I've gone to bat for him several times but I've never gotten this angry. I think I'm getting fed up with bullying in general (not just towards my brother) and it seemed like nothing was being done which I think enraged me even more.

    Oh and he wasn't embarrassed.....he's used to me having meltdowns like that lol when we got in the car I was frowning and he just had his iPod on listening to music.
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:39 AM GMT
    First off let me congratulate you on standing up for your baby brother is doing what was exactly right and to anwser your question many people don't believe in giving children an old school ass whuppin with a switch. This generation has changed effectively since I've come up in 22 years. But once again I'm glad that you put that little asshole in his place. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
    Coming from someone who has worked for a Public School District... not to start any trouble here, but you were way out of line. Unfortunately there are so many rules and regulations school administrators and officers have to take today. As much as we would like to suspend and never see some kids again (and yes, believe me we would love to see some kids never come back)... we just cant do that. If you felt that this boy was bullying your bro to the point where it wasnt being handled correctly, which it seems like he was, you should have sat down with the principal and handled it like that, or if he doesnt listen, you can call your local school district office, who takes things like bullying VERY seriously. Believe me, all you did here was embarrass your brother, and annoy the administrators, which I know you dont care what they think of you, but to be completely honest, your brother goes to school here, and now, these administrators are gonna take that much less care of him. School district employees are people just like us, and even though they act professional in front of parents and students, they can be just as spiteful as the rest of us.
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:48 AM GMT
    Edward23 saidFirst off let me congratulate you on standing up for your baby brother is doing what was exactly right and to anwser your question many people don't believe in giving children an old school ass whuppin with a switch. This generation has changed effectively since I've come up in 22 years. But once again I'm glad that you put that little asshole in his place. icon_wink.gif


    ....no. All he did was put himself in a position to be taken to jail. If he was at my middle school. He would have been... consider yourself lucky, these administrators were very considerate.
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
    Edward23 saidFirst off let me congratulate you on standing up for your baby brother is doing what was exactly right and to anwser your question many people don't believe in giving children an old school ass whuppin with a switch. This generation has changed effectively since I've come up in 22 years. But once again I'm glad that you put that little asshole in his place. icon_wink.gif


    EDWARD!!! That's not good lolol.....Now I have to come up with $50...that or go to court.....but this is just one battle for my brother, but it's not gonna really matter because nothing will happen. The sad part is my brother told me there's a lot of bullying at the school (he's a freshman in high school) and how nothing ever gets done about it...just brushed aside. There have been 2 bullying related suicides by students at his school alone. Both happened when I was a student there.
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    Dec 02, 2011 4:53 AM GMT
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    Edward23 saidFirst off let me congratulate you on standing up for your baby brother is doing what was exactly right and to anwser your question many people don't believe in giving children an old school ass whuppin with a switch. This generation has changed effectively since I've come up in 22 years. But once again I'm glad that you put that little asshole in his place. icon_wink.gif


    EDWARD!!! That's not good lolol.....Now I have to come up with $50...that or go to court.....but this is just one battle for my brother, sad part is my brother told me there's a lot of bullying at the school (he's a freshman in high school) and how nothing ever gets done about it...just brushed aside. There have been 2 bullying related suicides by students at his school alone. Two happened when I was a student there.
    Oh my bad man i guess i misread this lol you gotta forgive me but im slow as hell. icon_redface.gif
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    I like that you took a stand for your brother, but yeah... the lashing out at the guard was unnecessary. there;s two sides to every story and there's got to be reasons why this kid felt he needed to harass your brother. Hopefully he doesn't harass anyone again (except for credit card companies).
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:01 AM GMT
    Basket saidComing from someone who has worked for a Public School District... not to start any trouble here, but you were way out of line. Unfortunately there are so many rules and regulations school administrators and officers have to take today. As much as we would like to suspend and never see some kids again (and yes, believe me we would love to see some kids never come back)... we just cant do that. If you felt that this boy was bullying your bro to the point where it wasnt being handled correctly, which it seems like he was, you should have sat down with the principal and handled it like that, or if he doesnt listen, you can call your local school district office, who takes things like bullying VERY seriously. Believe me, all you did here was embarrass your brother, and annoy the administrators, which I know you dont care what they think of you, but to be completely honest, your brother goes to school here, and now, these administrators are gonna take that much less care of him. School district employees are people just like us, and even though they act professional in front of parents and students, they can be just as spiteful as the rest of us.


    That's exactly why I feel bad about it now, I didn't think about consequences....I think it's safe to say I wasn't even in the right frame of mind at the moment because my heart rate was through the roof and I was in complete combat mode meaning nothing and no one was off limits.
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
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    Basket saidComing from someone who has worked for a Public School District... not to start any trouble here, but you were way out of line. Unfortunately there are so many rules and regulations school administrators and officers have to take today. As much as we would like to suspend and never see some kids again (and yes, believe me we would love to see some kids never come back)... we just cant do that. If you felt that this boy was bullying your bro to the point where it wasnt being handled correctly, which it seems like he was, you should have sat down with the principal and handled it like that, or if he doesnt listen, you can call your local school district office, who takes things like bullying VERY seriously. Believe me, all you did here was embarrass your brother, and annoy the administrators, which I know you dont care what they think of you, but to be completely honest, your brother goes to school here, and now, these administrators are gonna take that much less care of him. School district employees are people just like us, and even though they act professional in front of parents and students, they can be just as spiteful as the rest of us.


    That's exactly why I feel bad about it now, I didn't think about consequences....I think it's safe to say I wasn't even in the right frame of mind at the moment because my heart rate was through the roof and I was in complete combat mode meaning nothing and no one was off limits.


    I know it sounds stupid, but calling the school and apologizing to the Administrator that was there goes a long way... it will make you feel a lot better and it will also make the administrator a lot happier knowing you realized you were wrong and had a big enough heart to call back.
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
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    Edward23 saidFirst off let me congratulate you on standing up for your baby brother is doing what was exactly right and to anwser your question many people don't believe in giving children an old school ass whuppin with a switch. This generation has changed effectively since I've come up in 22 years. But once again I'm glad that you put that little asshole in his place. icon_wink.gif


    EDWARD!!! That's not good lolol.....Now I have to come up with $50...that or go to court.....but this is just one battle for my brother, sad part is my brother told me there's a lot of bullying at the school (he's a freshman in high school) and how nothing ever gets done about it...just brushed aside. There have been 2 bullying related suicides by students at his school alone. Two happened when I was a student there.
    Oh my bad man i guess i misread this lol you gotta forgive me but im slow as hell. icon_redface.gif


    It's okay Edward lol
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:05 AM GMT
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    Edward23 saidFirst off let me congratulate you on standing up for your baby brother is doing what was exactly right and to anwser your question many people don't believe in giving children an old school ass whuppin with a switch. This generation has changed effectively since I've come up in 22 years. But once again I'm glad that you put that little asshole in his place. icon_wink.gif


    ....no. All he did was put himself in a position to be taken to jail. If he was at my middle school. He would have been... consider yourself lucky, these administrators were very considerate.


    Blackcat, I know youre gonna hate this completely, and its going to be REALLY painful, but if you want this to work out for the better, it would be beneficial for you to write an apology e-mail. Just explain to them that this has happened a lot with your brother and that you lost your temper. Dont put in ANY criticism of them, just tell them you know they are doing their job and that you would like to work with them more closely to come up with a solution. Even if you dont think they are doing their jobs, say it. I know you want to tell them what for, but dont. If it means parents need to get involved, then that is what happens, but no more reckless explosions okay? You have to work WITH them no matter how incapable they may be because that is what is legal.
    If you like, you CAN also file a report with the police if you feel your brother's safety is in danger.
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:07 AM GMT
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    Basket saidComing from someone who has worked for a Public School District... not to start any trouble here, but you were way out of line. Unfortunately there are so many rules and regulations school administrators and officers have to take today. As much as we would like to suspend and never see some kids again (and yes, believe me we would love to see some kids never come back)... we just cant do that. If you felt that this boy was bullying your bro to the point where it wasnt being handled correctly, which it seems like he was, you should have sat down with the principal and handled it like that, or if he doesnt listen, you can call your local school district office, who takes things like bullying VERY seriously. Believe me, all you did here was embarrass your brother, and annoy the administrators, which I know you dont care what they think of you, but to be completely honest, your brother goes to school here, and now, these administrators are gonna take that much less care of him. School district employees are people just like us, and even though they act professional in front of parents and students, they can be just as spiteful as the rest of us.


    That's exactly why I feel bad about it now, I didn't think about consequences....I think it's safe to say I wasn't even in the right frame of mind at the moment because my heart rate was through the roof and I was in complete combat mode meaning nothing and no one was off limits.


    I know it sounds stupid, but calling the school and apologizing to the Administrator that was there goes a long way... it will make you feel a lot better and it will also make the administrator a lot happier knowing you realized you were wrong and had a big enough heart to call back.


    I know, I should send like a flower basket or something to them. I actually cussed all of them out...including the lady at the sign in desk. I told her to give me the sign out sheet in a really nasty way icon_redface.gif I feel awful for how I treated the admins..
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:11 AM GMT
    aww yeah, but make it a big flower basket :0 let them know you feel aweful.
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
    Didn't this happen to Claire on Modern Family a few weeks ago?

    I would consider writing the school administration a letter, apologizing for the outburst and stating that it was triggered by frustration since you have been there numerous times trying to get them to deal with the situation with the other kid bullying your brother.
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
    Handeling the situation in a mature, professional and understanding manner may have gotten your point across. Now you will just be known as 'that crazy spazz'.

    Emotions - check icon_idea.gif
    Now you can open your mouth

    Just some friendly advice! I TA a conflict negotiation and resolutions course at the university. This is prime for my students - haha
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    AeroNalex saidaww yeah, but make it a big flower basket :0 let them know you feel aweful.


    icon_smile.gif I'm gonna write a card too that says "I'm sorry I called you a lazy ass, you're not lazy...you're just an ass" lol jk....I'll write them a nice card
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    Dec 02, 2011 5:16 AM GMT
    why not talk to his parents to give him an ass-whipping?