Bullying

  • okologische

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    Dec 05, 2011 3:59 AM GMT


    This is terrible that someone should ever feel this way. I'm kinda speechless. I just thought people should see this video and react to it.
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:14 AM GMT
    notwendig72 said

    This is terrible that someone should ever feel this way. I'm kinda speechless. I just thought people should see this video and react to it.


    That seriously made me tear up....and I'm still tearing up now. icon_cry.gif wow......that poor little kid. Stay strong kiddo.....icon_cry.gif
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:16 AM GMT
    It's not restricted to the young. Sometimes it's rather subtle.

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    Dec 05, 2011 4:20 AM GMT
    saw it before too
    the dude posted in 4 months ago
    and suddenly it became so popular just now
  • okologische

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    Dec 05, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
    Ruskach saidsaw it before too
    the dude posted in 4 months ago
    and suddenly it became so popular just now


    yea i wish i would have seen it sooner when he posted it in august! but still very emotional to watch for me
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
    what a DICK

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    Dec 05, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    i know!!! i was soo mad when i saw that vid. i dont doubt that he was indeed bullied but posting that video and make everyone feel sorry for him when he wasnt really being bullied at that time is just ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
    he makes gays look bad. and the chewing gum part..,makes him look like a douchebagicon_evil.gif
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:26 PM GMT
    Now I don't feel so bad for thinking that he was being very dramatic in the first vid. What an idiot.
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
    Snype saidNow I don't feel so bad for thinking that he was being very dramatic in the first vid.

    Yeah, I thought the kid was laying it on thick with the crying and the music. I turned it off when I was watching last night because I thought it was too emotionally manipulative. And he was just yanking our chain!
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
    he sounds so cocky in his 2nd video
    like the "like, everyone loves me in my school"
    or the way is smacking his gum… gosh
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    I watched the video yesterday without any audio and honestly, I did not shed one single tear. I felt sorry for him but that was just it =/
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:35 PM GMT
    There is an issue that needs to be addressed for whatever reason he posted that video.
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    Dec 05, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    Hillie saidThere is an issue that needs to be addressed for whatever reason he posted that video.


    Yes, there is a serious issue with bullying that continues in schools and is still not being addressed by schools with the seriousness deserved. But the problem with making a video like this and it not being truthful is that people walk away from seeing this remembering the lie instead of thinking about the problem of bullying. His issues with the need for attention and playing with people's emotions has failed those who are truly being bullied.
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    Dec 05, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    icon_confused.gif even though I feel somewhat manipulated after seeing this 2nd video, the first one did make a strong impression.

    if he wasn't all that miserable when he made the video, you gotta give him props for his talent for drama.
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    Dec 05, 2011 5:36 PM GMT
    I feel so used!

    Seriously, he's a 14 year old kid. What about the 2nd vid makes the 1st vid a lie? That first tear that came out (at about 2:20) looks real to me. People who are liked by some don't get bullied by others? Would a quick read of some RJ threads back that up?

    None of you guys were ever a moody kid, completely depressed one moment, chewing gum like a snot nose the next? Maybe he was so overwelmed by the responses that this was his sophomoric way to assure everyone that he's okay?

    Why can't they be like we were
    Perfect in every waaaaaaayyyyy
    What's the matter with kids to daaaay
  • okologische

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    Dec 06, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
    despite him possibly making it seem worse than it really is for him...the scars seem real....and more importantly there are kids who really are living the life that his video portrays...every fucking day they feel that kinda pain and misery.....
  • FifiSillyBunz

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    Dec 06, 2011 6:58 AM GMT
    I am so over this bullying craze in society. All its doing is generating pity instead of compassion... Awww, look at the poor helpless gay kid, everybody stand up for him because he is too weak to do it himself... I sincerely feel like thats the picture being painted of gays nowadays: weak, helpless, sissy boys who can't stand up for themselves. Newsflash, these kids aren't being bullied because they're gay, they're being bullied cuz they're shrimpy wimps. You're gonna be bullied regardless of sexuality if you act like a little bitch like that. I was bullied in school, like 9 out of 10 other people, and it made me stronger beeyotch. Im not about to make some melodramatic video like that that is so dripping with indulgence that it makes ppl want to bully you even more.
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    Dec 06, 2011 6:59 AM GMT
    FifiSillyBunz saidI am so over this bullying craze in society. All its doing is generating pity instead of compassion... Awww, look at the poor helpless gay kid, everybody stand up for him because he is too weak to do it himself... I sincerely feel like thats the picture being painted of gays nowadays: weak, helpless, sissy boys who can't stand up for themselves. Newsflash, these kids aren't being bullied because they're gay, they're being bullied cuz they're shrimpy wimps. You're gonna be bullied regardless of sexuality if you act like a little bitch like that. I was bullied in school, like 9 out of 10 other people, and it made me stronger beeyotch. Im not about to make some melodramatic video like that that is so dripping with indulgence that it makes ppl want to bully you even more.


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    Dec 06, 2011 10:33 AM GMT
    Even though I'm hearing that this video was staged, I still couldn't help but feel a sick feeling in my stomach because while the video may not have been real, the concept is a reality fact. There are people who get bullied for whatever reason and it's unfortunate that it happens. I guess I feel more in tune with the concept because I was bullied myself when I was a kid. It was definitely not a good feeling.

    However, when I look back at it, it did help me gain my own confidence somewhat because even when I was in high school, during my first 2 years, I got made fun of for being/looking different and then, again during my junior year when I had to change schools when my family moved. I think people who bully are pathetic and it says a lot about their character.

    This is why when I get older, I want to help kids and such who have to deal with these kinds of problems. It's sad when there are stories where someone committed suicide because of bullying. Anyway, thanks for the sharing the video. Its makes you think somewhat.
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    Dec 06, 2011 3:44 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidDamaged merchandise

    Throw-away society mentality.

    "I may be damaged goods, but I'm goods nonetheless"~~Adam & Steve circa 2005

    FifiSillyBunz saidI am so over this bullying craze in society. All its doing is generating pity instead of compassion... Awww, look at the poor helpless gay kid, everybody stand up for him because he is too weak to do it himself... I sincerely feel like thats the picture being painted of gays nowadays: weak, helpless, sissy boys who can't stand up for themselves. Newsflash, these kids aren't being bullied because they're gay, they're being bullied cuz they're shrimpy wimps. You're gonna be bullied regardless of sexuality if you act like a little bitch like that. I was bullied in school, like 9 out of 10 other people, and it made me stronger beeyotch. Im not about to make some melodramatic video like that that is so dripping with indulgence that it makes ppl want to bully you even more.


    I believe that you are correct in your assessment that some get bullied not so much because they are gay but more because they do not stand up for themselves. But it is more than that which we know simply by inadvertently rubber necking RJ bullies who continually bash some other posters even when their victims try to stand up for themselves. Of course, you need to be on solid ground to defend yourself but the bashing here can be so relentless that both victim and victimizer make themselves out to be such absolute cartoon characters--ie Boris & Natasha (guess which RJer is the girl) v Hyacinth--that it is hard to pity either party.

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    But where I think you might be mistaken is when your argument seems to lose integrity because on the one hand you are saying that being gay is not the impetus of being bullied, yet then you say that drawing attention to being bullied causes more bullying without your having delineating a mechanism allowing for one but not the other.

    Your point about pity and compassion is interesting and I'll be giving that more thought. On quick reflection it seems pity can lead to feelings of disgust but also to compassion whereas compassion itself certainly is not dependent upon pity.

    Regardless, whether someone previously unaware of the bullying can find within themselves compassion for the victims--even if the victims bring the bullying on themselves--through pity or love or understanding or most directly, then how does public discussion of actual or staged incidents, even if they seem, as you say, indulgent, hinder the expansion of consciousness by bringing into awareness our own behaviors so that we collectively act more mindfully for each other instead of thoughtlessly against ourselves? Because if it does not, then there is no reason to be bitter or jaded about a movement which promotes that it gets better.