Chevrolet Volt Battery Issues Growing, Safety Findings May Have Been Suppressed

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    Dec 06, 2011 5:51 PM GMT
    When regulators cover for the companies they regulate... conveniently of course GM counts the US Government as one of its primary shareholders with their unions continuing to wield significant influence both on the Administration and the company itself.

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    Apparently, way back in June, General Motors heard about a Volt fire that happened three weeks after said vehicle was crash tested, yet it wasn’t until November that the company, or NHTSA disclosed there was a potential problem, urging both dealers and customers to drain the battery pack immediately following an accident.

    As a result the public relations nightmare surrounding Chevy’s halo vehicle appears to be deepening, though a good deal of the blame in this case also rests with NHTSA.

    Joan Claybrook, a former adminstrator at NHTSA believes part of the reason for the delay was the “fragility of Volt sales.” Yet she also believes that “NHTSA could have put out a consumer alert, not to tell them [customers] for six months makes no sense to me.”

    GM designed a complex cooling system for the Volt’s lithium ion battery pack to help regulate its temperature (lithium-ion units are known for overheating), yet until July it hadn’t finalized a standard proceedure to power down the battery system, the Volt had already been on sale in the US for six months at that juncture.

    The Insurance Institute of Highway Safety, which crash tested a Volt back in February reported no incidents of fire as resulting from the accident, yet when a second crash test was performed in August, General Motors sent a technician to power down the battery.

    An interesting point on the subject been raised by Clarence Ditlow, executive director for the Center of Auto Safety in Washington D.C. He said that he is “surprised that NHTSA didn’t drain the battery after crash testing as it is standard procedure to empty the fuel tank on conventional gasoline powered vehicles.” He also says that the NHTSA incident underlines the need for “greater transparency when conducting crash tests,” as well as setting proper industry standards when it comes to new technologies.

    A spokesman for GM said the company felt it didn’t need to initially disclose the issue because the original fire was an isolated occurrence and happened some time after the vehicle was crashed. “It’s kind of odd in many respects,” said Rob Peterson. “The question became: What was making this happen and what do we have to do?”

    Nonetheless in wake of the findings; GM is now working with both NHTSA and the Society of Automotive Engineers to develop standards for all electric vehicles when it comes to crash testing. It’s also continuing with its program of providing concerned Volt owners with free loaner vehicles; so far 33 of roughly 5,000 customers have signed up.
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    Christian73 saidconspiracy-theory-jesse-ventura.jpg


    Those like yourself should be at the front of the line for abuses like this - as it attacks the core of your belief structure that governments do better than profit motivated businesses that are held accountable more quickly by customers, shareholders and competitors.
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    Christian73 saidconspiracy-theory-jesse-ventura.jpg


    Those like yourself should be at the front of the line for abuses like this - as it attacks the core of your belief structure that governments do better than profit motivated businesses that are held accountable more quickly by customers, shareholders and competitors.


    What abuse? All I read here is conjecture and your usual union bashing despite no evidence of union impacting the decisions of the regulator.

    Besides, you've frequently argued for no regulation or rationalized the capture of regulators by industry. The only reason you're not arguing that people who drive Volts accept that freedom means you may get into a crash and burst into flames. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 06, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidconspiracy-theory-jesse-ventura.jpg


    Those like yourself should be at the front of the line for abuses like this - as it attacks the core of your belief structure that governments do better than profit motivated businesses that are held accountable more quickly by customers, shareholders and competitors.


    What abuse? All I read here is conjecture and your usual union bashing despite no evidence of union impacting the decisions of the regulator.

    Besides, you've frequently argued for no regulation or rationalized the capture of regulators by industry. The only reason you're not arguing that people who drive Volts accept that freedom means you may get into a crash and burst into flames. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yep, no abuse at all. It's all just a big coincidence - and no outrage to be seen here given that GM and NHTSA exposed consumers (and are exposing consumers) to harm. How intellectually bankrupt you are.
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    Dec 06, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said


    Those like yourself should be at the front of the line for abuses like this - as it attacks the core of your belief structure that governments do better than profit motivated businesses that are held accountable more quickly by customers, shareholders and competitors.


    What abuse? All I read here is conjecture and your usual union bashing despite no evidence of union impacting the decisions of the regulator.

    Besides, you've frequently argued for no regulation or rationalized the capture of regulators by industry. The only reason you're not arguing that people who drive Volts accept that freedom means you may get into a crash and burst into flames. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yep, no abuse at all. It's all just a big coincidence - and no outrage to be seen here given that GM and NHTSA exposed consumers (and are exposing consumers) to harm. How intellectually bankrupt you are.


    icon_lol.gif It's nice that you think anyone outside the conservaposse takes you seriously, but in the reality based community we know you're intellectually, morally and ethically bankrupt. This post proves it.
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    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said


    Those like yourself should be at the front of the line for abuses like this - as it attacks the core of your belief structure that governments do better than profit motivated businesses that are held accountable more quickly by customers, shareholders and competitors.


    What abuse? All I read here is conjecture and your usual union bashing despite no evidence of union impacting the decisions of the regulator.

    Besides, you've frequently argued for no regulation or rationalized the capture of regulators by industry. The only reason you're not arguing that people who drive Volts accept that freedom means you may get into a crash and burst into flames. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yep, no abuse at all. It's all just a big coincidence - and no outrage to be seen here given that GM and NHTSA exposed consumers (and are exposing consumers) to harm. How intellectually bankrupt you are.


    icon_lol.gif It's nice that you think anyone outside the conservaposse takes you seriously, but in the reality based community we know you're intellectually, morally and ethically bankrupt. This post proves it.


    Ha - reality based? You've shown time and time again you have few people who pay attention to anything you say, nor do you have an basic grasp of the issues you attempt to pontificate on while believing that bandaid solutions are the way to fix anything at all. Christian don't bother attempting to pretend you can speak for anyone other than a few extremists here - it's just not credible though it is mildly cute/amusing how you try.
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    Dec 06, 2011 7:33 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 said


    Those like yourself should be at the front of the line for abuses like this - as it attacks the core of your belief structure that governments do better than profit motivated businesses that are held accountable more quickly by customers, shareholders and competitors.


    What abuse? All I read here is conjecture and your usual union bashing despite no evidence of union impacting the decisions of the regulator.

    Besides, you've frequently argued for no regulation or rationalized the capture of regulators by industry. The only reason you're not arguing that people who drive Volts accept that freedom means you may get into a crash and burst into flames. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yep, no abuse at all. It's all just a big coincidence - and no outrage to be seen here given that GM and NHTSA exposed consumers (and are exposing consumers) to harm. How intellectually bankrupt you are.


    icon_lol.gif It's nice that you think anyone outside the conservaposse takes you seriously, but in the reality based community we know you're intellectually, morally and ethically bankrupt. This post proves it.


    Ha - reality based? You've shown time and time again you have few people who pay attention to anything you say, nor do you have an basic grasp of the issues you attempt to pontificate on while believing that bandaid solutions are the way to fix anything at all. Christian don't bother attempting to pretend you can speak for anyone other than a few extremists here - it's just not credible though it is mildly cute/amusing how you try.


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    That looks like a great idea! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 06, 2011 8:30 PM GMT
    Christian.. why do you legitimise its posts by engaging? it has nothign to say. Never has.

    Do not feed the trolls!
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    Dec 06, 2011 8:33 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidChristian.. why do you legitimise its posts by engaging? it has nothign to say. Never has.

    Do not feed the trolls!


    Lol said one troll to the other.