Rick Perry openly attacks gays with new political ad

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    Dec 08, 2011 12:16 AM GMT
    I apologize in advance if someone already posted this but wow, this is a new low for a candidate seeking office. What a total dumbass even comparing the two. God I'm glad he's totally finished.

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    Dec 08, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    But his stances on gay rights are no different from Newt or Romney, so...?
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    Dec 08, 2011 12:26 AM GMT
    Rick,
    'faith' is gonna force you to retire! Buh bye.
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    Dec 08, 2011 12:28 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidBut his stances on gay rights are no different from Newt or Romney, so...?


    Emphasis is the difference. You can tell a lot from a candidate on how much focus they put on certain issues. You can tell Romney and possibly Newt will say and do things only for political reasons (like obama being against gay marriage) but they generally won't go out of their way which means personally they probably don't care much.

    I guess we have different ways of measuring how pro or anti a candidate is.
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    Dec 08, 2011 12:30 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidParse it:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."
    No need to 'parse' anything.. the idiot is a stooge and an embarrassment.. cut and dry.
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    Dec 08, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidParse it:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."


    He shouldn't be comparing the two, and he's using it as an opportunity to disparage the repeal of DADT.

    If kids couldn't say they were "straight" or "christian" or their name or some other fact about themselves, then he would have a point, but he doesn't. Open prayer? I don't know, to me it isn't related at all.
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    Dec 08, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
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    southbeach1500 saidParse it:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."


    He shouldn't be comparing the two, and he's using it as an opportunity to disparage the repeal of DADT.

    If kids couldn't say they were "straight" or "christian" or their name or some other fact about themselves, then he would have a point, but he doesn't. Open prayer? I don't know, to me it isn't related at all.
    When are you going to realize that SB would welcome adolf hitler as long as adolf beat Obama.. SB is a pure racist.
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    Christian73 saidBut his stances on gay rights are no different from Newt or Romney, so...?


    Emphasis is the difference. You can tell a lot from a candidate on how much focus they put on certain issues. You can tell Romney and possibly Newt will say and do things only for political reasons (like obama being against gay marriage) but they generally won't go out of their way which means personally they probably don't care much.

    I guess we have different ways of measuring how pro or anti a candidate is.


    Well, Romney signed NOM's anti-gay marriage pledge and, frankly, while I don't think he'll be chomping at the bit to repeal DADT, given how mercurial his positions are who knows what he'll say or do on any given day.

    As for current frontrunner, Newt Gingrich, he support Prop 8, and has been avowedly anti-gay in his positions for years.

    There is not substantive difference between these two and Perry.
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    Dec 08, 2011 2:28 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
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    southbeach1500 saidParse it:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."


    He shouldn't be comparing the two, and he's using it as an opportunity to disparage the repeal of DADT.

    If kids couldn't say they were "straight" or "christian" or their name or some other fact about themselves, then he would have a point, but he doesn't. Open prayer? I don't know, to me it isn't related at all.



    It would have had a different meaning if he had left out the word "but" as shown below:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."

    In the above, without the word "but," it's more of a laundry list of what's wrong, whereas in the original quote, he's actually pointing out an inequality and putting forth that the position that as gays can now serve openly in the military, "kids (should be able to) openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."

    I do realize, though, that they were going for the take away that you pointed out in the OP, which is "gays shouldn't be able to openly serve in the military." I'm just pointing out that the use of the words that they chose doesn't say that.


    I used to think Art was being paranoid or hyperbolic about your being a Republican plant but then you post something like this and I have to reconsider. What other explanation is there for a gay man who defends this commercial? Is it just self-loathing? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 08, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
    I have also long thought our favorite puppet-show pinhead was a Republican plant, possibly being paid to post here -- hence the endless gush of right-wing talking points posted all day every day. (And he supposedly runs a business? I guess it's on auto-pilot. icon_rolleyes.gif )
    I have never once seen him post one positive thing about gays or gay issues.
    Not once.
    What I have seen is a relentless defense of anti-gay positions and vile, hateful homophobes. This goes beyond "self hating" into the deeply suspicious.

    Has anyone ever read one pro-gay post from the puppet man?
    It doesn't add up to me.
    At all.
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    Dec 08, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidI have also long thought our favorite puppet-show pinhead was a Republican plant, possibly being paid to post here -- hence the endless gush of right-wing talking points posted all day every day. (And he supposedly runs a business? I guess it's on auto-pilot. icon_rolleyes.gif )
    I have never once seen him post one positive thing about gays or gay issues.
    Not once.
    What I have seen is a relentless defense of anti-gay positions and vile, hateful homophobes. This goes beyond "self hating" into the deeply suspicious.

    Has anyone ever read one pro-gay post from the puppet man?
    It doesn't add up to me.
    At all.


    Not that I can recall. And I completely understand not being a single issue voter. For example, Christine Quinn will undoubtedly run for Mayor in 2013 with Bloomberg's backing since she supported his flagrant law breaking in having a third term. Despite her being a lesbian and it being cool that NYC would have its first female and lesbian mayor, I would sooner vote for Mussolini than her.

    But I think SB and a few others conservaposse members, have gone beyond "my wallet ahead of my cock" into new and uncharted waters of depraved indifference to their community. So we are left with a few possibilities: Obama Derangement Syndrome has so untethered them from basic self-respect, that they will immolate themselves rather than vote for him; or they are deeply amoral people who truly believe money uber alles; or they are, indeed, some sort of weird psy-ops divisions of the RNC.
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    Dec 08, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
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    southbeach1500 saidParse it:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."


    He shouldn't be comparing the two, and he's using it as an opportunity to disparage the repeal of DADT.

    If kids couldn't say they were "straight" or "christian" or their name or some other fact about themselves, then he would have a point, but he doesn't. Open prayer? I don't know, to me it isn't related at all.



    It would have had a different meaning if he had left out the word "but" as shown below:

    "...something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military, our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."

    In the above, without the word "but," it's more of a laundry list of what's wrong, whereas in the original quote, he's actually pointing out an inequality and putting forth that the position that as gays can now serve openly in the military, "kids (should be able to) openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school."

    I do realize, though, that they were going for the take away that you pointed out in the OP, which is "gays shouldn't be able to openly serve in the military." I'm just pointing out that the use of the words that they chose doesn't say that.


    I used to think Art was being paranoid or hyperbolic about your being a Republican plant but then you post something like this and I have to reconsider. What other explanation is there for a gay man who defends this commercial? Is it just self-loathing? icon_rolleyes.gif


    He's trying to say that technically speaking he did not say that gays serving openly in the military is what is"wrong" (with this country) but rather than there's something wrong when gays can serve openly and christian kids can't pray openly in schools. But we all know what he was getting at and his intentions.
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    Dec 08, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidRick,
    'faith' is gonna force you to retire! Buh bye.


    Except King Perry is coming back to Texas to unleash his rath on us. icon_cry.gif
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    Dec 08, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidBut his stances on gay rights are no different from Newt or Romney, so...?



    I don't think that is exactly accurate. I don't know about Newt, but Romney is far more liberal than he is given credit for. He may not seem that as a campaigner, but I think he would be as a President. Regardless, the ad left a bad taste in my mouth as well and felt very redneck.
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    Dec 08, 2011 4:22 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
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    He's trying to say that technically speaking he did not say that gays serving openly in the military is what is"wrong" (with this country) but rather than there's something wrong when gays can serve openly and christian kids can't pray openly in schools. But we all know what he was getting at and his intentions.



    Right. But of course as the liberals read what I wrote, it went into their "peculiarly wired brains" and got all scrambled up and confused - as usual! icon_lol.gif


    No. I read and write in English. I wonder if you understand what you're writing sometimes since you don't understand the meaning of words like "socialism" or "regulation". Or "general welfare".
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    Dec 08, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    When will Americans wake up to the danger of politicians who promote fear and distrust to divide and polarize us in order to win elections?

    This sort of evil twaddle is un-patriotic, it abdicates leadership in favor of partisan hatred, and it tears the fabric of our corporate national life.

    Perry is a traitor.
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    Dec 08, 2011 6:22 PM GMT
    tazzari saidWhen will Americans wake up to the danger of politicians who promote fear and distrust to divide and polarize us in order to win elections?

    This sort of evil twaddle is un-patriotic, it abdicates leadership in favor of partisan hatred, and it tears the fabric of our corporate national life.

    Perry is a traitor.

    +1
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    Dec 08, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    mocktwinkie said

    He's trying to say that technically speaking he did not say that gays serving openly in the military is what is"wrong" (with this country) but rather than there's something wrong when gays can serve openly and christian kids can't pray openly in schools. But we all know what he was getting at and his intentions.



    Right. But of course as the liberals read what I wrote, it went into their "peculiarly wired brains" and got all scrambled up and confused - as usual! icon_lol.gif


    No. I read and write in English. I wonder if you understand what you're writing sometimes since you don't understand the meaning of words like "socialism" or "regulation". Or "general welfare".


    It's what happens to that English in your liberal brain that is the problem.


    Nope. And no liberal here. I think it's going to be really funny to watch Republicans eat all the crow of Fannie and Freddie once Gingrich secures the nomination.
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  • metta

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    Dec 08, 2011 10:24 PM GMT
    Parodies Unfold of Rick Perry’s “Strong” Anti-Gay Ad


    http://feastoffun.com/videos/2011/12/08/video-let-the-parodies-unfold-of-rick-perrys-strong-anti-gay-ad/


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    Dec 09, 2011 1:05 AM GMT
    In regards to Newt, I do know his backers have their work cut out for them in keeping him from firing up the anti-gay crowd on the right. Hopefully he will vent his energy on Obama and mounds of debt piling up each day. Now is not the time to pander to the anti-gay wing of the Republican Party.

    I know the man personally. In private, he can be remarkably different than in public. He is going to need continued support and that support comes by steering around Perry's tactic.
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    Dec 09, 2011 1:38 AM GMT
    The fuckhead could have made his points without ever drawing the gay card... so pathetic. Kick his dumbass out of there.......

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