John Waters Finally Comes Out!

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    Dec 08, 2011 12:18 AM GMT
    http://reason.com/blog/2011/12/07/john-waters-capitalist

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    Filmmaker John Waters, director of Pink Flamingos and other Baltimore-based masterpieces, grants an interview to the Financial Times in which he comes out...as a capitalist:

    Long before Occupy Wall Street, Waters was fond of protesting. “Riots are fun. I hate to say that, but in the Sixties I went to all of them. I was a Yippie. I was a Weathermen hag.” One of his youthful protests was a “Burn the Bank of America” rally, but now he banks with his former target. “I recognize the irony of it,” he admits.

    He now believes in capitalism, he says, “because the more success I have, the more people I have to hire,” and he is embarrassed to think that he marched against the construction of the Transamerica Pyramid in San Francisco (“Now when I look at it, it’s the most gorgeous architecture”).

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    Dec 08, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    And the point of this thread is...?
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    Dec 08, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the point of this thread is...?


    Noted gay liberal embraces capitalism.


    Anyone who harbored any delusions that John Waters was not a capitalist, deserves to be surprised by this...

    And I don't consider someone who is sexually transgressive and not racist to necessarily be a liberal. Examples include David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and, well, virtually any Republican of note.
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    Dec 08, 2011 2:28 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the point of this thread is...?


    Noted gay liberal embraces capitalism.


    Anyone who harbored any delusions that John Waters was not a capitalist, deserves to be surprised by this...

    And I don't consider someone who is sexually transgressive and not racist to necessarily be a liberal. Examples include David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and, well, virtually any Republican of note.


    C73 - give up your cognitive dissonance. If you read what Waters said, even he seems surprised that he turned out to be a capitalist.

    He does look back on his life and realizes that he was an idiot for embracing all the hippie claptrap.
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    Dec 08, 2011 2:36 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ said
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the point of this thread is...?


    Noted gay liberal embraces capitalism.


    Anyone who harbored any delusions that John Waters was not a capitalist, deserves to be surprised by this...

    And I don't consider someone who is sexually transgressive and not racist to necessarily be a liberal. Examples include David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and, well, virtually any Republican of note.


    C73 - give up your cognitive dissonance. If you read what Waters said, even he seems surprised that he turned out to be a capitalist.

    He does look back on his life and realizes that he was an idiot for embracing all the hippie claptrap.


    I'm not suffering from "cognitive dissonance". I don't harbor any illusions as to who or what John Waters was about.
  • honeybadger

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    Dec 08, 2011 2:58 AM GMT
    I'm going to see him on the 19th!!!
    JW is awesome!

    http://www.bbkingblues.com/bio.php?id=533

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    Dec 08, 2011 3:05 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    JackNWNJ said
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the point of this thread is...?


    Noted gay liberal embraces capitalism.


    Anyone who harbored any delusions that John Waters was not a capitalist, deserves to be surprised by this...

    And I don't consider someone who is sexually transgressive and not racist to necessarily be a liberal. Examples include David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and, well, virtually any Republican of note.


    C73 - give up your cognitive dissonance. If you read what Waters said, even he seems surprised that he turned out to be a capitalist.

    He does look back on his life and realizes that he was an idiot for embracing all the hippie claptrap.


    I'm not suffering from "cognitive dissonance". I don't harbor any illusions as to who or what John Waters was about.


    YEAH AIGHT
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    Dec 08, 2011 3:21 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ said
    Christian73 said
    JackNWNJ said
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the point of this thread is...?


    Noted gay liberal embraces capitalism.


    Anyone who harbored any delusions that John Waters was not a capitalist, deserves to be surprised by this...

    And I don't consider someone who is sexually transgressive and not racist to necessarily be a liberal. Examples include David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and, well, virtually any Republican of note.


    C73 - give up your cognitive dissonance. If you read what Waters said, even he seems surprised that he turned out to be a capitalist.

    He does look back on his life and realizes that he was an idiot for embracing all the hippie claptrap.


    I'm not suffering from "cognitive dissonance". I don't harbor any illusions as to who or what John Waters was about.


    YEAH AIGHT


    Please, Jack, be gentle with your witty rejoinders.
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    Dec 08, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
    We're all capitalists. What the fuck is wrong with you right-wingers? But ask John Waters (or any capitalist who gives a fuck about our country): should banks be unregulated casinos? Should they be leveraged more than 40 times their worth? Are you going to suggest that to be a capitalist you have to be fucking insane?
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    Dec 08, 2011 4:26 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidWe're all capitalists. What the fuck is wrong with you right-wingers? But ask John Waters (or any capitalist who gives a fuck about our country): should banks be unregulated casinos? Should they be leveraged more than 40 times their worth? Are you going to suggest that to be a capitalist you have to be fucking insane?


    Those are the questions that Obama should be asking (and answering).

    But no, he's nattering on about "wealth inequality" and the rich should "pay their fair share," etc.

    Yes, the financial mess is serious. But the Left goes way off the deep end by insisting that anyone who makes a comfortable living is somehow to blame.

    Take Elizabeth Warren, for instance. She plays on the ignorance, infantlism, and resentment of her followers. Says she: "Nobody got rich on their own - nobody."

    No kidding, Liz. But that has squat to do with the present state of the economy. As one observer recently noted: "She is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men - she refutes positions that no one takes." (George Will, channeling Bill Buckley.)

    If one were to accept the ultimate logic of the "Progressive" Left, we would find ourselves defending the absurd conclusion that wealth creates poverty.

    Happily, Congressman Allen West handed both of them their asses today:

    "Obviously President Obama believes in a 'guarantee of happiness' and that he, along with his liberal disciples, are the arbiters of fairness. America is about equal opportunity, not the liberal progressive mantra of equal achievement."
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    mickeytopogigio saidWe're all capitalists. What the fuck is wrong with you right-wingers? But ask John Waters (or any capitalist who gives a fuck about our country): should banks be unregulated casinos? Should they be leveraged more than 40 times their worth? Are you going to suggest that to be a capitalist you have to be fucking insane?


    Those are the questions that Obama should be asking (and answering).

    But no, he's nattering on about "wealth inequality" and the rich should "pay their fair share," etc.

    Yes, the financial mess is serious. But the Left goes way off the deep end by insisting that anyone who makes a comfortable living is somehow to blame.

    Take Elizabeth Warren, for instance. She plays on the ignorance, infantlism, and resentment of her followers. Says she: "Nobody got rich on their own - nobody."

    No kidding, Liz. But that has squat to do with the present state of the economy. As one observer recently noted: "She is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men - she refutes positions that no one takes." (George Will, channeling Bill Buckley.)

    If one were to accept the ultimate logic of the "Progressive" Left, we would find ourselves defending the absurd conclusion that wealth creates poverty.

    Happily, Congressman Allen West handed both of them their asses today:

    "Obviously President Obama believes in a 'guarantee of happiness' and that he, along with his liberal disciples, are the arbiters of fairness. America is about equal opportunity, not the liberal progressive mantra of equal achievement."


    No one on the left is saying that anyone who makes a comfortable living is to blame for the financial crisis. That's a ridiculous straw man argument.

    And Warren makes a great point. There is no pristine "free market" in which someone gets rich. It happens in a context of a Democratic republican that has capitalism as its primary economic model.

    Finally, wealth does create poverty when it is sucked up by a relatively very few people who are unpatriotic and immoral.
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    Dec 08, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
    jpBITCHva said
    JackNWNJ said
    Happily, Congressman Allen West handed both of them their asses today

    Happily, Allen West will be gone in a year. The Florida legislature just redistricted him into an unwinnable district. And the lege is run by Republicans.

    Oh, the rich irony. he he he he


    icon_lol.gif I just wish Debbie Wasserman Schultz would punch him square in his face before he leaves the building. What a fucking lunatic, he is.
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    Dec 08, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
    Debbie may just be the dumbest person on the planet.
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    Dec 08, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
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    JackNWNJ saidDebbie may just be the dumbest person on the planet.

    Not as long as the Diaz-Balart brothers are still breathing.


    J - Are you as amused as I am when one of these right-wingers claims someone like DWS is dumb? It's like they live on Bizarro world where up is down and black is white.

    I guess that's why they think themselves intelligent.
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    Dec 08, 2011 8:03 AM GMT
    John's one of the elite now and he came from a semi wealthy middle class background......not exactly a shocker that he's in favour of capitalism.
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    Dec 08, 2011 8:25 AM GMT
    FOR THE UMP-TEENTH TIME: The protest hasn't been against capitalism in the broad sense. The protest is aimed at greed and deregulation and the disparity these two have caused in the name of capitalism.
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    Dec 08, 2011 8:33 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ said
    mickeytopogigio saidWe're all capitalists. What the fuck is wrong with you right-wingers? But ask John Waters (or any capitalist who gives a fuck about our country): should banks be unregulated casinos? Should they be leveraged more than 40 times their worth? Are you going to suggest that to be a capitalist you have to be fucking insane?


    Those are the questions that Obama should be asking (and answering).

    But no, he's nattering on about "wealth inequality" and the rich should "pay their fair share," etc.

    Yes, the financial mess is serious. But the Left goes way off the deep end by insisting that anyone who makes a comfortable living is somehow to blame.

    Take Elizabeth Warren, for instance. She plays on the ignorance, infantlism, and resentment of her followers. Says she: "Nobody got rich on their own - nobody."

    No kidding, Liz. But that has squat to do with the present state of the economy. As one observer recently noted: "She is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men - she refutes positions that no one takes." (George Will, channeling Bill Buckley.)

    If one were to accept the ultimate logic of the "Progressive" Left, we would find ourselves defending the absurd conclusion that wealth creates poverty.

    Happily, Congressman Allen West handed both of them their asses today:

    "Obviously President Obama believes in a 'guarantee of happiness' and that he, along with his liberal disciples, are the arbiters of fairness. America is about equal opportunity, not the liberal progressive mantra of equal achievement."


    well said- well sated- bravo!
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    Dec 08, 2011 9:41 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the point of this thread is...?


    Noted gay liberal embraces capitalism.


    Anyone who harbored any delusions that John Waters was not a capitalist, deserves to be surprised by this...

    And I don't consider someone who is sexually transgressive and not racist to necessarily be a liberal. Examples include David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and, well, virtually any Republican of note.


    OMG you say that if it's a bad thing. Now take off you rose coloured glasses will you.
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    Dec 08, 2011 10:15 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidFOR THE UMP-TEENTH TIME: The protest hasn't been against capitalism in the broad sense. The protest is aimed at greed and deregulation and the disparity these two have caused in the name of capitalism.


    well said...and concisely said...

    I have noticed that there a number of people in these forums who are obsessed by a single issue...capitalism (superior) ....democratic socialism (very very bad)....thread after thread after thread...

    Madness lies this way....extreme obsession is a sure sign of impending lunacy...