Bioidentical Hormones - Anyone use them?

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    Dec 09, 2011 5:26 PM GMT
    Been seeing a lot about these lately. Is anyone taking them? Do they work?
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    Dec 09, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsweek/What-are-bioidentical-hormones.htm
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    Dec 11, 2011 12:34 AM GMT
    I've heard Suzanne Somers speak about it on CNN and she wrote a book.

    Ageless: The Naked Truth About Bioidentical Hormones


    http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307237257/ref=asc_df_03072372571815791?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=0307237257
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    Dec 11, 2011 12:57 AM GMT
    Suzanne Somers get an MD?
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    Dec 11, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
    effen saidSuzanne Somers get an MD?
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    icon_lol.gif I know. It is kind of funny that Chrissy from "Three's Company" is really smart. According to the link she's written many books, and the book I linked contains "16 interviews from cutting-edge doctors on how to slow the aging process, for men and women."
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    Dec 11, 2011 10:58 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIt appears that the book by Somers mainly focuses on women. Is there anything in that book for men?


    sure but there's no guarantee you'll still feel like a man...lol
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
    There are plenty of bioidentical testosterone creams available for men. They're nowhere near as powerful as steroid injections, but if you're going to use one, be sure you're taking DIM or Indole-3-Carbonole for estrogen metabolism.
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
    yeah..why do all those overpriced creams and stuff..injectable testosterone is still king...and way less costly
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:38 PM GMT
    MuscledHorse saidyeah..why do all those overpriced creams and stuff..injectable testosterone is still king...and way less costly

    You're right. Injectable test is always going to work better, but it forces your body to deal with it if you get too much. Most guys who shoot test are not doing it properly and may end up suffering for it for the rest of their lives. Bioidenticals are safer, but expensive. If anyone is going to shoot they need an experienced mentor, and not a stranger at a gym with a dirty needle who needs rent money.

    There are also a ton of doctors who are willing to give guys weekly low dose injections, if you're well-connected at the gym they're easy to find.
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
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    MuscledHorse saidyeah..why do all those overpriced creams and stuff..injectable testosterone is still king...and way less costly

    You're right. Injectable test is always going to work better, but it forces your body to deal with it if you get too much. Most guys who shoot test are not doing it properly and may end up suffering for it for the rest of their lives. Bioidenticals are safer, but expensive. If anyone is going to shoot they need an experienced mentor, and not a stranger at a gym with a dirty needle who needs rent money.

    There are also a ton of doctors who are willing to give guys weekly low dose injections, if you're well-connected at the gym they're easy to find.


    Yeah that's why you research what you are doing before you do it. Working in medicine I am constantly amazed at how many people will just take a drug --even OTC stuff--without even so much as reading the directions beyond the dose.
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    Feb 02, 2012 3:04 PM GMT
    Since having my SIRT1 gene removed, I haven't visibly aged.

    I'll go with ACTUAL science instead of some weird hormone witchcraft.
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    Feb 02, 2012 3:06 PM GMT
    Haha.. I talked to this guy the other day who told me he has hard lumps under his nipples from injecting and asked me what "herbs and stuff" he can take to counter act the steroids. I pretty much told him there's nothing strong enough to fight off the stupidity of a 17 year old gym buff who doesn't know what he's doing.
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    Feb 03, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
    Draper saidI've heard Suzanne Somers speak about it on CNN and she wrote a book.

    Ageless: The Naked Truth About Bioidentical Hormones


    http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307237257/ref=asc_df_03072372571815791?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=0307237257


    That woman looks like shit!!! She has a plastic joan rivers face and looks nothing like she did when she was young- now she looks like that blond in the Muppet Movie who was is in the band.
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    Feb 03, 2012 8:57 AM GMT
    I inject a long-acting ester of testosterone cypionate every 3 months and whilst the addition of a long-acting ester makes it technically not 'bioidentical', after the body 'cleaves off' that ester, the remaining testosterone absolutely is.

    It's worth pointing out that 'bioidentical' doesn't mean that the hormone is necessarily any more 'natural' than synthetic alternatives, given it is still produced in a laboratory. All that 'bioidentical' really means is that the molecular structure of the hormone is identical to that which is produced by and found in the human body.

    This page offers a decent explanation (the intended audience are transmen who use testosterone to transition from female to male): http://www.ftmguide.org/bioidenticalt.html

    Though, I wouldn't advocate using testosterone (or any other hormone) without consulting a physician in the first instance and for ongoing monitoring...
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    Feb 03, 2012 9:13 AM GMT
    *testosterone undecanoate rather, marketed as Reandron 1000mg (I switched from cypionate and also tried enanthate..)