GAY-for-Pay... real or fake?

  • gymguydave

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    Dec 10, 2011 10:05 PM GMT
    For my final research project in my class sexualities was given the option to choose any topic and write a research paper on it. I chose to do it on straight men in gay porn... or Gay-for-Pay.

    the her Gay for pay is defined as the “homosexual activities of a group of men whose primary sexual identity is not gay, yet who regularly perform in gay pornographic videos”icon_twisted.gif

    my question to you guys is.. do u believe that this is real?

    the statistics show that 60% of gay porn actors claim to be st8... for them it is all about the money and the industry... they get paid a crazy amount more than if they would do st8 porn.

    its called situational homosexuality and they say that since sexual orientation is self identified one cannot say that they r or are not because it is up to the individual....

    i also saw Tyra Bank's special on Gay for Pay actors and one of the gfs of a performer said that she did not believe he was st8 only because one has to get and maintain an erection and also achieve orgasm.. so she believes that he is at LEAST bisexual... any thoughtsicon_question.gif

    PS for that much money i would consider going gay too! (joke) icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 10, 2011 10:21 PM GMT
    It's called knowing you're hot, and knowing that pseudo-straight guys get paid more.
    In short, it's the closet man's way of making bank.
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    Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM GMT
    It's not real, for the most part , I think most "straight gay-for-pay porn" is scripted, they are told what to say.

    Because they think gay guys like the idea of straight guys having gay sex, when in reality, my reaction is "meh", I don't understand why they think that we all have that fetish. I prefer to think of the guys as gay.
  • gymguydave

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    Dec 10, 2011 10:37 PM GMT
    Stan904 saidIt's not real, for the most part , I think most "straight gay-for-pay porn" is scripted, they are told what to say.

    Because they think gay guys like the idea of straight guys having gay sex, when in reality, my reaction is "meh", I don't understand why they think that we all have that fetish. I prefer to think of the guys as gay.


    yea i agree on that. I also read how directors like working with st8 men more often just because they are more professional than gay ones. the gay porn actors worry if they are found attractive to the other person, also if they are getting pleasure our of that and if the other is too.. but st8 actors don't really care, they are in it for the money and do what they are told so they can finish quicker and get the fuck out...

    it kind of ruins porn for me... not gan a lie
  • rnch

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    Dec 10, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    i cannot believe that ANY man who's penis can become erect at the sight of a naked man and stays erect at the thought of and while having foreplay and anal sex with another man is 100% "str8".




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  • Timbales

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    Dec 11, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    I think sex and sexuality is mental, and that a straight person can enjoy sex with someone of the same gender without being homosexual.
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    Dec 11, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    I would say it's fake. I know a few boys in Marines who were part of that whole Activeduty.com row a few years back. They were all gay but made to seem like they weren't online. So take it for what it's worth. I would assume some might honestly think they are straight, though I would say they were misguided...
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    Dec 11, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
    Totally fake. If they weren't gay they wouldn't be turned on by homosexual activity/intercourse.

    Granted I made the argument to my friend that guys will get a boner regardless of who's blowing them. Haha but yeah, I say it is fake.
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    Dec 11, 2011 12:50 AM GMT
    obviously fake. Straight boys don´t have sex with men. They just don´t.
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    Dec 11, 2011 1:04 AM GMT
    yeah I think most of it is scripted, and the so-called straights are at least bisexual.

    I don't think guys who are totally straight are able to do gay porn, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some bicurious guys (who say they're straight) might go for it.
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    Dec 11, 2011 1:20 AM GMT
    everyone has some homosexual tendencies...it just depends on how much.for us truly gay guys...it's just greater than it is in straight guys.
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    Dec 11, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    If you have sex with a guy... Bottom or Top. I don't know what you are. But you are certainly not straight.
    Jacking off with another guy is a different story
  • TrophyKid

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    Dec 11, 2011 1:39 AM GMT
    With the notable exception of the Hedgehog, no man has ever gotten rich doing straight porn.

    Situational: I think gay4pay is more like the prison fairies phenomenon as opposed to intrinsic bisexuality. At first they hate the sex and but love the easy $$$. After a while they may start actually enjoying the sex, and maybe getting turned-on by dudes in a way they never had imagined. Corbin Fisher's long-timer Dawson (who by all accounts is as nice as he is hot) has been pretty candid on this topic. But like prisoners upon release from jail, once the work dries up I'll bet most of them revert to being primarily hetero.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when Dawson goes back to being ____ (I think most of us know his name). I'll bet he gets married and makes babies.

    That said, I think an awful lot of curious/DL types see gay4pay as a way to mess around with guys and still keep hold on to their straight identity.

    One of the problems with us boys is that we don't cut straight guys any slack. I've had sex with women and nobody's calling me a DL straight. However If some otherwise straight dude messes around when he's drunk, we wrap him in a rainbow flag -- providing he's hot, of course. Just look at all the grief that Teen Wolf dude is going through, and all he did was have a provocative photo session (for which he was paid) when he was 17.
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    Dec 11, 2011 1:58 AM GMT
    60% seems inflated.
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    Dec 11, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    Some guys can get their dicks hard. Period. Some guys can just stick it into any orifice that gives their dicks stimulation up to and through "biological twitching".

    I do believe that there are heterosexual men who can engage in sexual behavior with men without self-identifying as homosexual or bisexual.

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    Dec 11, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    I don't know why you would question whether it is real or not.

    Some people will do anything for decent money, and if a guy is truly secure with his sexuality, it isn't really a big deal.

  • charlieviiper...

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    Dec 11, 2011 3:31 AM GMT
    What's your thesis?

    I think personally, I would take the "sexuality is a social construction" angle, and then relate it to how the porn actors are merely "performing an action" rather acting out an identity (an identity which is socially constructed to begin with).
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    Dec 11, 2011 3:46 AM GMT
    Ppl have been know to commit murder for only a few dollars so I wouldnt be surprised if some down and out self defined str8 guy w/ no ambition, tweeked on some viagra and fucked his brains out.
    Some guys get hard if a gust of wind hits their crotch, others need more incentive. I do enjoy a good porn flick and could care less about how the so called star decides to identify self, just fuck like u wanna be there and we'll both get off icon_smile.gif
  • GAYBIGMACHODU...

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    Dec 11, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
    it's fake,There is no such thing as gay for pay.They really gay or bisexual. straight guys don't jack off with other guys at all.straight guys don't kiss
    other guys.straight guys don't suck dicks.straight guys don't have gay
    sex at all.they are straight acting guys,pretenders and closeted guys.my
    advice to all closeted guys and straight acting guys to come of the closet.
    they are only hurting themselves by staying in the closet and living a lie.
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    Dec 11, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
    Gay-for-pay is a made up term by Tyra Banks, who is, in return, the anti-christ.

    Anyway, I never understood why people say "st8" as if it is abreviated for state... LAst time i checked it was str8, for, straight. lets get real here
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    Dec 11, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    Gay for pay is absolute load of bollocks and if the 60% are str8 they are all liars. Do they think we are stupid.
  • calibro

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    Dec 11, 2011 6:35 AM GMT
    i think if you're open-minded about sexual activities you'd realize there's a difference between having sex with a person of the same gender and being gay. would you say the guys who have sex with women while figuring out their sexual identities are all bi or straight? and those guys weren't being paid a lot of money to do it. there is porn out there of gays paid for having straight sex (straight-for-pay), particularly notorious was when blake riley had his first sexual encounter with a woman in the filming of shifting gears with shy love.

    consider the fact that a lot of self-identifying straight men experiment with other guys, especially when they're younger. are those guys gay? and again, they weren't paid for it. i have several straight friends who actually enjoy giving blowjobs, which seems on the surface to be not very straight. but it's interesting how you hear them talk about it: the entire description is always about the act itself, or an apparent sense of transgression, or a cum fetish... they completely dissociate the act from the guy the penis is attached to and render the whole thing a sexual moment. those guys enjoy the act of sex, which can feel amazing regardless of the gender, separate of the entirety of attraction to the person's gender, which is where sexuality is defined.

    personally, i don't think it would be difficult to have sex with a woman, especially if were being paid for-- it if the porn industry were my career choice. that said, i have zero emotional attraction to women and consider myself gay because of that. i think our society is obsessed with labels, and even then they are so blinded with how to apply those labels.
  • waccamatt

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    Dec 11, 2011 6:38 AM GMT
    Honestly, I couldn't be straight for pay so I don't know how anyone could do it in reverse. They're probably bi.
  • slimnmuscly

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    Dec 11, 2011 9:53 AM GMT
    I'm gay, and I've done gay-for-pay porn in which everyone on the set identified as gay.

    That is, I wasn't attracted to either of the guys in my scene, and the only reason I was gay for them was the pay.

    Don't get too hung up on speculating about the "actual" sexual orientation of porn actors. Porn sex is about as contrived as it gets. "Pay" is the operative word regardless of who the actors like having sex with off the set.
  • monet

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    Dec 11, 2011 10:45 AM GMT
    There is no such thing as gay and there is no such thing as straight. Everyone is bisexual to some degree or another.