In dozen swing states where voters will decide the election, Obama losing to current Republican frontrunners by significant margins

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    Dec 13, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
    New USAToday/Gallup Poll
    Excerpts from two sites describing poll results

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/13/swing-state-poll-shows-obamas-narrow-options/

    Obama trailed Mitt Romney by 5 points, 43 percent to 48 percent and trailed Newt Gingrich by 3 points, 45 percent to 48 percent, in the survey of these 12 battleground states

    It’s a pretty big deal.

    While Obama continues to tie or lead national polls, his performance in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin matters more. And there, things are not so good for the incumbent.
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    The overarching Obama miscalculation seems to have been that he needed to burn his political capital to get something big done with Democratic supermajorities in the Congress. The first miscalculation was that the legislation would be popular. It is not. The second miscalculation was on how many seats his party would lose in the midterms.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-12-12/2012-election-swing-states-poll/51844930/1

    Since the heady days of 2008, a new USA TODAY/Gallup Swing States Poll finds the number of voters who identify themselves as Democratic or Democratic-leaning in these key states has eroded, down by 4 percentage points, while the ranks of Republicans have climbed by 5 points.

    Republican voters also are more attentive to the campaign, more enthusiastic about the election and more convinced that the outcome matters.

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    And the "enthusiasm gap" that helped fuel a Democratic victory last time has turned into a Republican asset. Sixty-one percent of Republicans say they are extremely or very enthusiastic about voting for president next year, compared with 47% of Democrats
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    Dec 13, 2011 10:22 PM GMT
    "Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin"

    NC, CO, FL NV, and VA have always been leaning red states.

    If Romney runs he should be able to win those 5 states and add on his homestates of Michigan and New Hampshire. Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are already shifting toward the GOP. Obama is hated in both. Ohio is a leaning GOP state and their mad as hell about Obamacare so I can see it going Republican as well. Iowa will be the tossup out of those states, but even if Obama wins it, the GOP will still win.
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    Dec 13, 2011 10:29 PM GMT
    Doesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.
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    Dec 13, 2011 11:57 PM GMT
    Obama will win HI, CA, IL, MN, VT, NY, MD, DE, CT, MA, WA, DC, RI, ME, OR, and possibly NJ. This will give him 196 Electoral Votes.

    The Republicans will win 342 votes. People are very angry with Obama in the Midwest. The Republicans will win the South, Interior West and the Midwest.
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    Dec 14, 2011 12:17 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidObama will win HI, CA, IL, MN, VT, NY, MD, DE, CT, MA, WA, DC, RI, ME, OR, and possibly NJ. This will give him 196 Electoral Votes.

    The Republicans will win 342 votes. People are very angry with Obama in the Midwest. The Republicans will win the South, Interior West and the Midwest.

    They are starting to argue that 2 + 2 does not equal 4.
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.


    Sure. And Obama was going to get his clock cleaned by Hillary too. There's nothing more reliable than conservative underestimating Obama and overestimating their own base.

    You also don't realize how far afield your views are from the Republican rank and file who don't like Catholics, don't like Mormons, don't trust or like Romney and who probably remember how much Gingrich damaged their party in the 1990s. icon_lol.gif
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.


    Sure. And Obama was going to get his clock cleaned by Hillary too. There's nothing more reliable than conservative underestimating Obama and overestimating their own base.

    You also don't realize how far afield your views are from the Republican rank and file who don't like Catholics, don't like Mormons, don't trust or like Romney and who probably remember how much Gingrich damaged their party in the 1990s. icon_lol.gif


    People are so desperate to get rid of Obama (mostly Independents) that it isn't going to matter.
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.


    Sure. And Obama was going to get his clock cleaned by Hillary too. There's nothing more reliable than conservative underestimating Obama and overestimating their own base.

    You also don't realize how far afield your views are from the Republican rank and file who don't like Catholics, don't like Mormons, don't trust or like Romney and who probably remember how much Gingrich damaged their party in the 1990s. icon_lol.gif


    People are so desperate to get rid of Obama (mostly Independents) that it isn't going to matter.


    If only polls supported your assertions in either of your RJ guises. icon_lol.gif
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.


    Sure. And Obama was going to get his clock cleaned by Hillary too. There's nothing more reliable than conservative underestimating Obama and overestimating their own base.

    You also don't realize how far afield your views are from the Republican rank and file who don't like Catholics, don't like Mormons, don't trust or like Romney and who probably remember how much Gingrich damaged their party in the 1990s. icon_lol.gif

    First of all, the Obama versus Hillary was not something the conservatives argued, though as Hillary said, Fox was the only network that gave her a fair shake after the talking heads started going for Obama.

    As far as underestimating or overestimating, regardless of the polls, most people I know will take nothing for granted, and are totally energized to defeat Obama and work very hard to make sure it happens. Though I can't see him doing hard work like building homes in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter.
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    Dec 14, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.


    Sure. And Obama was going to get his clock cleaned by Hillary too. There's nothing more reliable than conservative underestimating Obama and overestimating their own base.

    You also don't realize how far afield your views are from the Republican rank and file who don't like Catholics, don't like Mormons, don't trust or like Romney and who probably remember how much Gingrich damaged their party in the 1990s. icon_lol.gif

    First of all, the Obama versus Hillary was not something the conservatives argued, though as Hillary said, Fox was the only network that gave her a fair shake after the talking heads started going for Obama.

    As far as underestimating or overestimating, regardless of the polls, most people I know will take nothing for granted, and are totally energized to defeat Obama and work very hard to make sure it happens. Though I can't see him doing hard work like building homes in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter.


    Go to PA, MI, OH, IN, or WI, there is much enthusiasm to get Obama out of the White House.


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    Dec 14, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidDoesn't matter until the opponent is picked. Neither Romney nor Gingrich can beat Obama.

    There is a fine line between wishful thinking and delusion. Must be fatiguing with your string of losing arguments these days. At least you keep trying. If you did the electoral college math, you might learn something, but probably not.


    Sure. And Obama was going to get his clock cleaned by Hillary too. There's nothing more reliable than conservative underestimating Obama and overestimating their own base.

    You also don't realize how far afield your views are from the Republican rank and file who don't like Catholics, don't like Mormons, don't trust or like Romney and who probably remember how much Gingrich damaged their party in the 1990s. icon_lol.gif

    First of all, the Obama versus Hillary was not something the conservatives argued, though as Hillary said, Fox was the only network that gave her a fair shake after the talking heads started going for Obama.

    As far as underestimating or overestimating, regardless of the polls, most people I know will take nothing for granted, and are totally energized to defeat Obama and work very hard to make sure it happens. Though I can't see him doing hard work like building homes in the footsteps of Jimmy Carter.


    Whatever it takes to get you through the night.

    You also forget that barring some speeches and media stops, Obama isn't really campaigning yet. We'll see what happens once he reminds the American people about the good things he/s done and the awful, awful things Gingrich or Romney are proposing.
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    Dec 14, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidWhatever it takes to get you through the night.

    Christian - this thread has a very specific topic. How the swing states are going to determine the election and how the Gallup / USA Today poll shows that in these states Obama is beaten by the Republican frontrunners by a large margin. The other posters have commented about the swing states, but you have neglected to discuss the thread topic, but persist with your off-topic ramblings. Would you care to discuss the poll results, specifically?
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    Christian73 saidWhatever it takes to get you through the night.

    Christian - this thread has a very specific topic. How the swing states are going to determine the election and how the Gallup / USA Today poll shows that in these states Obama is beaten by the Republican frontrunners by a large margin. The other posters have commented about the swing states, but you have neglected to discuss the thread topic, but persist with your off-topic ramblings. Would you care to discuss the poll results, specifically?


    You and I are the only people to comment thus far, unless you're counting "CHRISTOPHER34's unimpressive right-wing talking points.

    And you better not let SouthBeach realize that you're stealing his act as RJ's hall monitor. Don't fret. I'm sure "CHRISTOPHER34" won't tell him.
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    Christian73 saidWhatever it takes to get you through the night.

    Christian - this thread has a very specific topic. How the swing states are going to determine the election and how the Gallup / USA Today poll shows that in these states Obama is beaten by the Republican frontrunners by a large margin. The other posters have commented about the swing states, but you have neglected to discuss the thread topic, but persist with your off-topic ramblings. Would you care to discuss the poll results, specifically?


    You and I are the only people to comment thus far, unless you're counting "CHRISTOPHER34's unimpressive right-wing talking points.

    And you better not let SouthBeach realize that you're stealing his act as RJ's hall monitor. Don't fret. I'm sure "CHRISTOPHER34" won't tell him.

    Christopher did mention specific states, so I think you are the only off-topic bad boy.
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    Dec 14, 2011 1:06 AM GMT
    LOL, hilarious how "the worst president in history" (according to the Rs), one who "destroyed/is destroying the united states of america" (according to the Rs) who is battling record high unemployment (THANKS to the Rs), higher than any other incumbent president faced in history and polling ahead in the general election polls and is still only down 2% in normally republican leaning state of Colorado, North Carolina, Virginia etc.

    ISN'T THAT PATHETIC? And you're cheering about it? Speaks volumes of the clown like Republican field.

    Do you know how difficult it is to beat the incumbent? Especially one on hugely successful campaigner like Obama? One who' ahead in national polls despite an awful economy? Face it, a huge war chest is powerful...ask Bloomberg.

    You clowns will lose in 2012. Mark my words.
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    Dec 14, 2011 1:12 AM GMT
    Every single thing the Republicans have thrown at Obama has been heard by the general public, believe me.

    Every day the Republicans tell us how Obama has damaged the economy, how he spending the country off of a cliff, how he is a socialist, how he is bad for America, how he's a secret ineligible radical muslim....yet Obama is still leading national polls. LOL!!!! icon_question.gificon_exclaim.gif

    There is nothing left to say about Obama and he's still winning. He hasn't even started campaigning against his republican rival and he's still winning. Good luck Republicans!
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    Christian73 saidWhatever it takes to get you through the night.

    Christian - this thread has a very specific topic. How the swing states are going to determine the election and how the Gallup / USA Today poll shows that in these states Obama is beaten by the Republican frontrunners by a large margin. The other posters have commented about the swing states, but you have neglected to discuss the thread topic, but persist with your off-topic ramblings. Would you care to discuss the poll results, specifically?


    You and I are the only people to comment thus far, unless you're counting "CHRISTOPHER34's unimpressive right-wing talking points.

    And you better not let SouthBeach realize that you're stealing his act as RJ's hall monitor. Don't fret. I'm sure "CHRISTOPHER34" won't tell him.


    Christian, I'm originally from Indiana (near the Ohio border). My family still lives there. The Obama enthusiasm that was there 4 years ago is gone. The area is not like New York. People out there work hard and have values. Many are unemployed and not seeing results. They dont want Obamacare. They dont want the country adding more to the deficit. They dont want the government telling them how to live.

    Now back to the topic. I got the figures for my posts from 270towin.com. I used an interactive map. Its tough to see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year. Its obvious that you disagree with me so why dont you give us your scenario.




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    Dec 14, 2011 1:18 AM GMT
    josh995 saidEvery single thing the Republicans have thrown at Obama has been heard by the general public, believe me.

    Every day the Republicans tell us how Obama has damaged the economy, how he spending the country off of a cliff, how he is a socialist, how he is bad for America, how he's a secret ineligible radical muslim....yet Obama is still leading national polls. LOL!!!! icon_question.gificon_exclaim.gif

    There is nothing left to say about Obama and he's still winning. He hasn't even started campaigning against his republican rival and he's still winning. Good luck Republicans!


    Tell us how you see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year?

    As far as his record.

    What were the results of the stimulus plan?

    Has Unemployment gone down since he took over?

    Has he added anything to the national deficit?

    Give us a reason to vote for your candidate.
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    Dec 14, 2011 2:03 AM GMT
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    josh995 saidEvery single thing the Republicans have thrown at Obama has been heard by the general public, believe me.

    Every day the Republicans tell us how Obama has damaged the economy, how he spending the country off of a cliff, how he is a socialist, how he is bad for America, how he's a secret ineligible radical muslim....yet Obama is still leading national polls. LOL!!!! icon_question.gificon_exclaim.gif

    There is nothing left to say about Obama and he's still winning. He hasn't even started campaigning against his republican rival and he's still winning. Good luck Republicans!


    Tell us how you see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year?

    As far as his record.

    What were the results of the stimulus plan?

    Has Unemployment gone down since he took over?

    Has he added anything to the national deficit?

    Give us a reason to vote for your candidate.


    The election is nearly A YEAR away. How I see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral votes? A year out when Obama hasn't even started campaigning against his opponent, and is only 2 points behind republicans in REPUBLICAN LEANING states? What kind of stupid question is that?
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    Dec 14, 2011 2:07 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidWhatever it takes to get you through the night.

    Christian - this thread has a very specific topic. How the swing states are going to determine the election and how the Gallup / USA Today poll shows that in these states Obama is beaten by the Republican frontrunners by a large margin. The other posters have commented about the swing states, but you have neglected to discuss the thread topic, but persist with your off-topic ramblings. Would you care to discuss the poll results, specifically?


    You and I are the only people to comment thus far, unless you're counting "CHRISTOPHER34's unimpressive right-wing talking points.

    And you better not let SouthBeach realize that you're stealing his act as RJ's hall monitor. Don't fret. I'm sure "CHRISTOPHER34" won't tell him.


    Christian, I'm originally from Indiana (near the Ohio border). My family still lives there. The Obama enthusiasm that was there 4 years ago is gone. The area is not like New York. People out there work hard and have values. Many are unemployed and not seeing results. They dont want Obamacare. They dont want the country adding more to the deficit. They dont want the government telling them how to live.

    Now back to the topic. I got the figures for my posts from 270towin.com. I used an interactive map. Its tough to see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year. Its obvious that you disagree with me so why dont you give us your scenario.






    Yep, because everyone in New York is employed and nobody in New York has values. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Why the HELL would enthusiasm be anywhere near it was in 2008 when we were about to elect this man who had the possibility of being our first non-white president?!!

    There is never as much enthusiasm during an incumbents second bid for election. Ever. I don't feel enthusiastic at all, but i'm still voting for Obama no matter what. What the hell is there to be enthusiastic about? Politics don't enthuse me at all. I guess I was enthused about him in 2008 because I personally found him amazingly refreshing but he's been president for too long for me to be enthused.
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    josh995 saidEvery single thing the Republicans have thrown at Obama has been heard by the general public, believe me.

    Every day the Republicans tell us how Obama has damaged the economy, how he spending the country off of a cliff, how he is a socialist, how he is bad for America, how he's a secret ineligible radical muslim....yet Obama is still leading national polls. LOL!!!! icon_question.gificon_exclaim.gif

    There is nothing left to say about Obama and he's still winning. He hasn't even started campaigning against his republican rival and he's still winning. Good luck Republicans!


    Tell us how you see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year?

    As far as his record.

    What were the results of the stimulus plan?

    Has Unemployment gone down since he took over?

    Has he added anything to the national deficit?

    Give us a reason to vote for your candidate.


    The election is nearly A YEAR away. How I see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral votes? A year out when Obama hasn't even started campaigning against his opponent, and is only 2 points behind republicans in REPUBLICAN LEANING states? What kind of stupid question is that?
    Its a 'christopher' the sock question.. none of them are 'smart'!
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    Dec 14, 2011 2:13 AM GMT
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    josh995 saidEvery single thing the Republicans have thrown at Obama has been heard by the general public, believe me.

    Every day the Republicans tell us how Obama has damaged the economy, how he spending the country off of a cliff, how he is a socialist, how he is bad for America, how he's a secret ineligible radical muslim....yet Obama is still leading national polls. LOL!!!! icon_question.gificon_exclaim.gif

    There is nothing left to say about Obama and he's still winning. He hasn't even started campaigning against his republican rival and he's still winning. Good luck Republicans!


    Tell us how you see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year?

    As far as his record.

    What were the results of the stimulus plan?

    Has Unemployment gone down since he took over?

    Has he added anything to the national deficit?

    Give us a reason to vote for your candidate.


    The election is nearly A YEAR away. How I see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral votes? A year out when Obama hasn't even started campaigning against his opponent, and is only 2 points behind republicans in REPUBLICAN LEANING states? What kind of stupid question is that?



    LOL. Thats your reply? Thats all you can say about your candidate? You must not believe in obama very much. I am unable to come up with a reason to vote for the guy. I wanted you to give me a reason, but you are unable to come up with one.

    Obama is extremely disliked in the Midwest. Outside of winning Illinois and maybe Minnesota, how is he going to convince voters from Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, and Michigan to back him again? All of those states are pretty much bankrupt and they hate obamacare.



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    Dec 14, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
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    Christian73 saidWhatever it takes to get you through the night.

    Christian - this thread has a very specific topic. How the swing states are going to determine the election and how the Gallup / USA Today poll shows that in these states Obama is beaten by the Republican frontrunners by a large margin. The other posters have commented about the swing states, but you have neglected to discuss the thread topic, but persist with your off-topic ramblings. Would you care to discuss the poll results, specifically?


    You and I are the only people to comment thus far, unless you're counting "CHRISTOPHER34's unimpressive right-wing talking points.

    And you better not let SouthBeach realize that you're stealing his act as RJ's hall monitor. Don't fret. I'm sure "CHRISTOPHER34" won't tell him.


    Christian, I'm originally from Indiana (near the Ohio border). My family still lives there. The Obama enthusiasm that was there 4 years ago is gone. The area is not like New York. People out there work hard and have values. Many are unemployed and not seeing results. They dont want Obamacare. They dont want the country adding more to the deficit. They dont want the government telling them how to live.

    Now back to the topic. I got the figures for my posts from 270towin.com. I used an interactive map. Its tough to see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year. Its obvious that you disagree with me so why dont you give us your scenario.






    Yep, because everyone in New York is employed and nobody in New York has values. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Why the HELL would enthusiasm be anywhere near it was in 2008 when we were about to elect this young megastar type man who had the possibility of being our first non-white president?!!

    There is never as much enthusiasm during an incumbents second bid for election. Ever. I don't feel enthusiastic at all, but i'm still voting for Obama no matter what. What the hell is there to be enthusiastic about? Politics don't enthuse me at all. I guess I was enthused about him in 2008 because I personally found him amazingly refreshing but he's been president for too long for me to be enthused.


    Well people were excited to reelect Ronald Reagan, he won 49 states in his 1984 reelection. People were excited to reelect Bill Clinton. People were excited to reelect Nixon in 1972. People were excited to reelect Eisenhower in 1956. People were excited to reelect FDR in the 30's. Why aren't people excited to reelect Obama?




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    Dec 14, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    josh995 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    josh995 saidEvery single thing the Republicans have thrown at Obama has been heard by the general public, believe me.

    Every day the Republicans tell us how Obama has damaged the economy, how he spending the country off of a cliff, how he is a socialist, how he is bad for America, how he's a secret ineligible radical muslim....yet Obama is still leading national polls. LOL!!!! icon_question.gificon_exclaim.gif

    There is nothing left to say about Obama and he's still winning. He hasn't even started campaigning against his republican rival and he's still winning. Good luck Republicans!


    Tell us how you see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral Votes next year?

    As far as his record.

    What were the results of the stimulus plan?

    Has Unemployment gone down since he took over?

    Has he added anything to the national deficit?

    Give us a reason to vote for your candidate.


    The election is nearly A YEAR away. How I see Obama getting more than 200 Electoral votes? A year out when Obama hasn't even started campaigning against his opponent, and is only 2 points behind republicans in REPUBLICAN LEANING states? What kind of stupid question is that?



    LOL. Thats your reply? Thats all you can say about your candidate? You must not believe in obama very much. I am unable to come up with a reason to vote for the guy. I wanted you to give me a reason, but you are unable to come up with one.

    Obama is extremely disliked in the Midwest. Outside of winning Illinois and maybe Minnesota, how is he going to convince voters from Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, and Michigan to back him again? All of those states are pretty much bankrupt and they hate obamacare.




    NICE TRY. icon_lol.gif

    Isn't Ohio THE battleground of all battleground states!?

    According to the average of ALL polls (not just one poll) Obama is ahead of Gingrich by 6% in the state of Ohio.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/oh/ohio_gingrich_vs_obama-1857.html

    Is Ohio not in the Midwest anymore!???!!?!?

    So in this awful economy, Obama is still beating the Republican frontrunner, even after all the relentless hammering of his "failed policies" while Obama hasn't even released his "opposition research" on Newt? HAHAHAHAHAH. Just wait until Obama starts campaigning against this disgusting man. Obama will win Ohio.